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Old 08-09-2007, 09:13 PM   #2401
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:42 PM   #2402
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plus he's got a history of hitting batters.
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:53 PM   #2403
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:59 PM   #2404
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ST. LOUIS (AP) - Rick Ankiel returned to the major leagues Thursday — as an outfielder.

After flopping in his attempt to rejoin the St. Louis Cardinals as a pitcher, Ankiel rejoined the team Thursday and was in the starting lineup against San Diego. The timing of the callup coincided with utilityman Scott Spiezio going on major league baseball's restricted list.
Toting an equipment bag, Ankiel walked into a clubhouse that was closed to discuss the Spiezio matter.

"I set a goal for myself to get back here, so I feel good that I reached it," Ankiel said. "I'm looking forward to reaching my next goal, which is staying here."

Ankiel was hitting .267 with a Pacific Coast League-leading 32 homers and 89 RBIs in 102 games at Triple-A Memphis. He also struck out 90 times and had a .314 on-base percentage.

Batting second, Ankiel was to face Padres ace Chris Young.

"He goes up there and takes a whack," manager Tony La Russa said. "He's aggressive."

Ankiel made his major league pitching debut at age 19 in August 2000 when he faced the Expos in Montreal.

"I was young and I don't think I understood the magnitude of what was going on," he said. "That seems like a long time ago. It's ancient. I'm a different guy.

"I was so young then, I guess we all were."

The hard-throwing lefty won 11 games and struck out 194 in 175 innings as a 20-year-old rookie in 2000 and was a surprise pick to start the Cardinals' postseason opener that season against Atlanta. But he became the first major league pitcher to throw five wild pitches in one inning since 1890.

Ankiel threw nine wild pitches in four innings during the 2000 playoffs and never really was the same after that. He showed some promise at the plate in 2000, batting .250 with two home runs.

Now, the Cardinals want an extended period to gauge Ankiel's future, and expect that giving him three weeks of playing time before major league rosters are expanded will provide a clearer picture.

The team didn't recall him earlier because Ankiel has no minor league options remaining and would have to clear waivers if he was brought up and sent back down.

La Russa said he planned on starting Ankiel the next "two or three days" and that he'd get plenty of playing time.

"We need to see Rick here and really assess how major league ready he is," La Russa said. "It's going to cost somebody playing time."

La Russa didn't consider putting Ankiel into the lineup against Young to be an overwhelming debut, reasoning he would see good pitches to hit batting in front of Albert Pujols.

"A tough assignment is to have a year like that and not get an opportunity," La Russa said. "He's facing (Brad) Penny tomorrow, he would have faced (Greg) Maddux yesterday and (Jake) Peavy the day before. This is the big leagues."

Ankiel, who found out about the callup at midnight Wednesday, didn't mind.

"From everything I've read, I thought I would be called up in September," Ankiel said. "So, this is nice. I appreciate them giving me a chance to start my career over."

Ankiel was 1-2 with a 7.13 ERA in six starts for the Cardinals in 2001 and wound up back in the minors. He missed 2002 with a left elbow sprain, then started 2003 in the minors and tore a ligament in his left elbow.

He returned to the majors in September 2004 and had a 5.40 ERA in 10 innings over five relief appearances with the Cardinals. After feeling a twinge in his elbow during winter ball in Puerto Rico, he announced on March 9, 2005, that he was switching to the outfield.

Following a 1-for-21 start, he wound up batting a combined .259 with 21 homers and 75 RBIs in 85 games split between Double-A Springfield and Class A Quad Cities, then spent the 2006 on the disabled list after hurting his left knee during a Cardinals intrasquad game early in spring training.

St. Louis, sagging after winning last year's World Series, hopes the left-handed hitter will provide a boost. Despite a 52-59 record, the Cardinals began Thursday just six games back of the NL Central-leading Milwaukee Brewers.

"Some of it has to do with what your club needs, and is there an opportunity there," La Russa said. "Unless you really needed Rick, it would be nice to bring him up when the time is right."



so far tonight: R. Ankiel (RF) 0-3 with 2 K's (no wild pitches)
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Also in that game Joel Pineiro is the starter going for St. Louis. He's gone 5.2 innings without allowing a run (4 hits)
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:27 PM   #2406
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lol at Clemens suspension.
I wonder who they'll get to fill Clemens spot for one game.
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:06 PM   #2407
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ROFL Ankiel goes deep
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:15 PM   #2408
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Theres always David Wells.
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:29 PM   #2409
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:44 PM   #2410
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Don't even joke like that. *shudders* Probably going to use someone in the farm hopefully. (Clippard, Chase Wright, Igawa, etc.etc.
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:46 PM   #2411
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Did he?!

Holy fuck man, that's seriously awesome.
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I don't think Joe Torre has the power to DFA Kyle Farnsworth.
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Failed pitcher Rick Ankiel hit a three-run homer to cap his debut as a major league outfielder, and Joel Pineiro worked seven scoreless innings in the St. Louis Cardinals' 5-0 victory over the San Diego Padres on Thursday night.


Seriously pumped on both those fronts.

Gotta love Ankiel coming back and having some success and I've always been a Piniero fan. Happy days
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:24 AM   #2414
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Niiice, Dodgers second to last in the West now. What the fuck.
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Old 08-10-2007, 09:51 AM   #2415
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2nd half slide, like was predicted my man. Sorry, but the pitchers in LA don't seem to have the mustard to go a full season.

San Diego, FTW
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2nd half slide, like was predicted my man. Sorry, but the pitchers in LA don't seem to have the mustard to go a full season.

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I thought Torre likes Farnsworth a lot? Its prolly the reason why he hasnt DFA.
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Old 08-10-2007, 09:59 AM   #2418
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At least the Dodgers had a win in extra innings yesterday SammyG.
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:04 AM   #2419
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Harang is awesome. I've liked him ever since he was with the A's and came on board as there 5th starter.
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At least the Dodgers had a win in extra innings yesterday SammyG.
So what dude?! We still suck ass right now.
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Any1 of those 4 teams can win the NL West right now and likely another team there could get the WC. Some are already counting the Dodgers out but I am not just yet.
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:11 AM   #2422
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The Dodgers are still in it, that's for sure. They gotta play a bit of desperate baseball though.
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Good for Ankiel. The guy suffered one of the Biggest Meltdowns in league history.

This has been a decent season for comebacks.

Ankiel & Hamilton are great stories.
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Yeah but are they Moneyball!?!?!?!?!
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I thought Torre likes Farnsworth a lot? Its prolly the reason why he hasnt DFA.
Nah, pretty sure Torre hates him as well. He is never used anymore because of it. I have no idea how Cashman couldn't trade him before the deadline (at least gave him away).
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I was suprised at that as it was thought hed be gone by then.
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Nah, pretty sure Torre hates him as well. He is never used anymore because of it. I have no idea how Cashman couldn't trade him before the deadline (at least gave him away).
I think it's come up several times that Farns was going to get traded but then the other team would want the Yankees to pay half or all of his contract and that's what stopped them from trading him. Any information about Igawa going to the Padres? I heard the Padres took Igawa off Waivers but may want the Yankees to pay Igawa's salary.
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According to me, No

According to you, yes!

Ankiel was a Pitcher, Hamilton was a Rule 5 Pick. That is kind of going against the normal trends and finding value in other places. So If your right, then these guys are moneyball! If your wrong, then they have a shitty OBP!
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What the hell are you even talking about. Do you really think there are multiple ways to interpret what Moneyball means. No, there are just people who can read and people who can't.
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:45 PM   #2430
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What the hell are you even talking about. Do you really think there are multiple ways to interpret what Moneyball means. No, there are just people who can read and people who can't.

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I think it's come up several times that Farns was going to get traded but then the other team would want the Yankees to pay half or all of his contract and that's what stopped them from trading him. Any information about Igawa going to the Padres? I heard the Padres took Igawa off Waivers but may want the Yankees to pay Igawa's salary.
I hope Cashman doesn't just pawn Igawa off on another team if they can't get anything in return. Yeah, I know Igawa has been horrible this year but he can't hurt the team right now in AAA. Hopefully they just let him work things out because he has shown flashes where he was very good. On the other hand, if they can get a decent return for him I'd do it in a second but that doesn't seem like the case.
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Nice, really good game today.

Hughes - 6 IP, 1 ER, 4 H, 6 Ks
Joba - 2 IP, 0 H, 4 Ks
Mo - 1 IP, 0 H

Pretty awesome seeing Hughes-Joba-Mo in the same game.
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Old 08-10-2007, 09:55 PM   #2434
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I hope Cashman doesn't just pawn Igawa off on another team if they can't get anything in return. Yeah, I know Igawa has been horrible this year but he can't hurt the team right now in AAA. Hopefully they just let him work things out because he has shown flashes where he was very good. On the other hand, if they can get a decent return for him I'd do it in a second but that doesn't seem like the case.
Yeah, I think they'd basically want us to pay his contract too. And we'd get no one in return. Send us Peavy or Hoffman and I'll take Igawa to Petco Park right now.

It was great we got the win. And Joba pitching 2 scoreless innings. It's really great they put him in there when it was still kind of a close game. Seeing him pitch 2 scoreless innings when we're only ahead by 2 or 3 runs is great for your second time on the mound. I really thought Carmona would be harder but we actually beat the Indians quite easily. I better send Peralta a gift basket for those 3 runs he helped us get early on.

Wow Baltimore just tied Boston they're 5-5 in the 8th inning after trailing 5-1. Getting 4 runs off of the Boston bullpen is kinda impressive.
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:21 PM   #2435
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Gagne seems to be his old dominant self since going over to Boston lol
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Gagne seems to be his old dominant self since going over to Boston lol
Yeah, wouldn't it have sucked if we had given up Joba for him like Texas was asking for from the Yankees? BTW thanks for helping us move one game closer to the AL East title Gagne. Now, we're only five games back.
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Nice, really good game today.

Hughes - 6 IP, 1 ER, 4 H, 6 Ks
Joba - 2 IP, 0 H, 4 Ks
Mo - 1 IP, 0 H

Pretty awesome seeing Hughes-Joba-Mo in the same game.
Amazing.
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This is prolly going to be one of the most exciting finishes in MLB History considering how close all the races are. It should start getting heavy publicity now since Bonds broke the HR record.
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