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Old 06-09-2008, 12:30 AM   #2441
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Playing devils advocate here.

Kobe is the only one who takes the ball to the net. Now he is even settling for jump shots more. So his free throw numbers are gonna go down.

Almost every other player on the Lakers is a pussy foreign player who shoots jumpers. So there should be some disparity between the two teams.
Good point, but...

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Leon Powe played 15 minutes. And he shot more free throws than the whole fucking Lakers team, in 48 minutes.
The disparity is way too great.
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ROFL

Thats exactly how I felt when the Spurs played LA.

This is awesome seeing LA get the same treatment.
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Here are the FT attempts for the WCF

Game 1: LAL-18 SAS-17
Game 2: LAL-20 SAS-10
Game 3: LAL-17 SAS-23
Game 4: LAL-19 SAS-26
Game 5: LAL-18 SAS-18

Here are the attempts so far for the Finals

Game 1: LAL-28 BOS-35
Game 2: LAL-10 BOS-38
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That totally proves how much of an idiot you are, Ninti. You shot 2 more free throws than us. Dumbass.
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I'm talking about the non-calls that would.... how do you say... not get called.


If anyone is an idiot, its you for not understanding what I meant and making assumptions.
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Just be happy the Celts got lazy and it wasn't a 25-35 point blowout

You're spazzing out about shit thats unfounded, just because you're upset that the Lakers lost. There weren't many fouls because the Lakers play shitty D and don't draw offensives and foul a ton and/or let the Celts march right up, and on their end Kobe's the only one who drives offensively to draw fouls, which he did
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i loved kobe's response to the question about the difference in the two teams free throws: "i didn't notice." with that shit eating grin on his face.
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Old 06-09-2008, 05:19 AM   #2451
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i loved kobe's response to the question about the difference in the two teams free throws: "i didn't notice." with that shit eating grin on his face.
LOL yea. That grin should be taken as the secret signal to the refs waiting in LA, you know, letting them know that it's on.
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a wins a win.

I admit, I fell asleep when they were up over 20, so I missed the melt down, and that does concern me that they took their foot off the gas,

The refs did suck, they weren't letting the teams "play", I didn't like the first 2 calls on Kobe, the 3rd call was good when he tried to run through a pick. Then the play he complained about the replay showed he didn't get touched.

I don't think you'll see a lopsided game foul calls in LA in LA's favor.

As someone pointed out here, except Kobe, no one on LA drives to the basket and if you don't drive you're not going to get the calls.

Look at all the calls the Celtics got, they were driving to the hoop.

I will say "Paul Gasoft" didn't play that way last night, he was actually agressive and drove to the hoop, for LA to have a shot at taking all 3 in LA he has to keep doing that.

The Lakers are a Finese Offense and that type of team will always have trouble against a physical defense.

I do find it funny (in LA's defense) that when they run through teams they're a "high powered offense" and then when they don't win they're a "soft team". They are what they are a finese offense that relies on jump shots and fast ball movement to find the open player. No argument it got them this far, but if they want to beat Boston and they want to get foul calls they MUST start driving to the basket.
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oddly i dont feel bad though. The Celts have shown they cant win for shit on the road, and they have 3 straight in LA.
as pointed out, Detroit plays much more physical then LA does, and they won 2 in Detroit.

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there is no way the Celts will get another one after this season.
Really? why?

Garnett 4 more years
Pierce 3 more years
Allen 2 more years
Perkins 3 more years
Rondo 1 yr then team option so figure 2 more at least.

Who are they going to lose?

Cassell? PJ Brown? Cassell is a role player, Brown has been great but he can be replaced, someone will want to go to Boston for a "Discount" to try and win a title.

The Celtics will continue to compete (baring injuries) for 2-3 years, possible longer depending on who they can sign or draft.
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lol Robert Horry on the Celtics.
The "Horry Factor".
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Just in case someone thinks that the Lakers didn't get calls because they didn't attack the rim...

Shots in the paint: Lakers 35 Celtics 19
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OMG Did not know that. That angers me.
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Just in case someone thinks that the Lakers didn't get calls because they didn't attack the rim...

Shots in the paint: Lakers 35 Celtics 19
Shots in the paint doesnt nessecarily mean attacking the rim so to speak. They could've been fade aways and jump shots after pussying out of a shot.
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The drama begins...

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By JOHN MARZULLI
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Tuesday, June 10th 2008, 4:10 PM
Tim Donaghy, who pleaded guilty to charges of betting on games he officiated, is now airing NBA's dirty laundry. Murphy/Getty


Ex-NBA referee Tim Donaghy told the feds two refs fixed the outcome of one playoff series - and that officials were told not to eject star players from games for fear of hurting ticket sales.

The bombshell allegations are contained in a court document filed Tuesday by Donaghy's lawyer. It describes the “inner workings" of the NBA in which top league executives used referees to manipulate games.

Donaghy, who pleaded guilty in Brooklyn Federal Court to charges of betting on games he officiated, told FBI agents “league officials would tell referees that they should withhold calling technical fouls on certain star players because doing so hurt ticket sales and television ratings," the document said.

Donaghy claims he was told that two refs who were “company men” acting in the interest of the NBA conspired to extend a playoff series in 2002 to a seventh game.

The referees allegedly ignored flagrant fouls committed by the team that needed to win. They also reportedly called "made-up fouls" against the other team which led to the ejection of two of their players. The team favored by the refs won that night and the next game to win the series.

The document does not name the teams. The Nets were in that playoff series, losing the championship finals to the Los Angeles Lakers.

Donaghy also claimed a supervising referee told refs that an unidentified NBA executive did not want them to call technical fouls on star players or boot them from the game.

Donaghy told feds the league reprimanded a referee who disobeyed that edict in January 2000 and ejected an unnamed star player from a game in the first quarter.

Lawyer John Lauro filed the four-page letter to Federal Judge Carol Amon because none of the information was included in the government’s letter to the judge seeking leniency for Donaghy when he is sentenced next month.

Lauro has gone to war against Brooklyn federal prosecutors for offering plea deals to Donaghy's betting accomplices that give them less time than the disgraced ref, despite his extensive cooperation.

Donaghy claims referees have accepted autographs, free merchandise and meals from team coaches and managers. He told probers one referee used a team's practice facility to exercise and another played tennis with an NBA coach.

"These activities were against NBA rules, indeed, such inappropriate relationships could influence the outcome of games," Lauro wrote.

Lauro said he withheld the names of the teams, referees and league officials because the feds may still investigate the allegations.
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I haven't seen reffing this bad in a long time.

Since game 2 to be exact.

Look at Kobe's halftime interview. He's all like "We are playing the exact same as we did in game 2." He says this with a huge grin on his face. Probably because all the calls are going the other way now lol. It is like almost exact opposite of game 2 in terms of statistics or something, it is crazy.
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rofl@ Kobe getting mad over the refs calling a legit fall on him.

Kobe: YOU GUYS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CHEATING FOR US 2NITE!
Ref: FUCK MAN I'M SORRY JUST DON'T RAPE MY WIFE OK.

This series is gonna be great lol.

Edit: Also the Lakers would be killing the Celtics if Gasol wasn't a one man suck-fest tonight.
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as pointed out, Detroit plays much more physical then LA does, and they won 2 in Detroit.



Really? why?

Garnett 4 more years
Pierce 3 more years
Allen 2 more years
Perkins 3 more years
Rondo 1 yr then team option so figure 2 more at least.

Who are they going to lose?

Cassell? PJ Brown? Cassell is a role player, Brown has been great but he can be replaced, someone will want to go to Boston for a "Discount" to try and win a title.

The Celtics will continue to compete (baring injuries) for 2-3 years, possible longer depending on who they can sign or draft.

1) I like how you point out THE ONLY TWO road wins the Celts got this year, ignoring the fact that they lost every road game to the HAWKS and the 1 man gang Cavaliers...so yeah, they CANT win for shit on the road...which leads to to....

2) For all intents and purpose, the Lakers shouldnt have won tonight. They played like shit, it just so happens, as stated earlier, the Celts cant seem to do it on the road. Sure, if the Lakers hit free throws, or if Gasol didnt look scared as shit everytime he touched the ball, theyd have a commanding lead the whole game, but there is no doubt the Celts choked on the road...again.

3) The Celtics will contend, yes, but lets be real...with Bynum in the Lakers lineup, do you think this would be the series it is? C'mon, Perkins would get fould out and Bynum would put up 20-10 consistently, leaving Gasol and Odom available to kill. Lets say the Lakers DONT make it to the championship, no chance in hell the Celts would get passed the Spurs, or hell, the SUNS for that matter...both those teams have a bench to rival their starters.


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Well, I am glad we won, but I didn't see that dominant performance I expected in game 3, in a MUST win game. Lamar Odom was fucking atrocious, and don't even get me started on Pau. Fucking vag. Sasha was tremendous, I love the machine, and Mamba was Mamba. I am happy about the win, but we are gonna have to play way better if we wanna win games 4 and 5 in LA.
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:23 AM   #2477
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We got a lot of questionable calls tonight, I will admit that. I'm still not too thrilled about this. a W is a W, but we need to play better.
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