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Old 10-04-2009, 09:33 PM   #2521
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Daniel Murphy finishes up with 12 HR, 63 RBI, and a .266 BA

Honestly, considering how horrible he was for a couple of months, he got extremely hot at the end and was hot at the beginning. Not bad for a first full campaign that featured a position change as well.

I hope Mike Francesa can resist trashing every Mets fan who defends Murph, as he's done all season...going on about how Murph isn't a 1B on a championship team. Murph's numbers are pretty similar to Tino Martinez' first full season...I'd love to hear Mike say he would have benched Tino with those numbers as well.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:35 PM   #2522
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well the thing is the Mets are not a championship team.
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:36 PM   #2523
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What I mean is that Francesa always goes on about how you can't have a successful, championship caliber team with a guy like Murphy playing 1B, which is crap IMO. If they got solid hitters in LF and C, you can live with Murph batting 7th and improving more while playing adequate defense.
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Wow, what a way to wrap up the season...only to find that since Minnesota didn't lose today, we now have to face them Tuesday for--AHEM!--OUR (Detroit's) playoff spot. No big deal.

Tuesday, the Twins, then we go on and K.O. the Yankees in the ALCS...count on it!
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Wow, what a way to wrap up the season...only to find that since Minnesota didn't lose today, we now have to face them Tuesday for--AHEM!--OUR (Detroit's) playoff spot. No big deal.

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I find your blind optimism amusing.
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What I mean is that Francesa always goes on about how you can't have a successful, championship caliber team with a guy like Murphy playing 1B, which is crap IMO. If they got solid hitters in LF and C, you can live with Murph batting 7th and improving more while playing adequate defense.
I know what you mean. But the fact remains that the Mets are not a championship team.
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BIRMINGHAM, Mich. -- Records show police responded to a "family trouble" call at the home of Detroit Tigers first baseman Miguel Cabrera.

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A review of Birmingham Police Department records by The Detroit News indicates officers responded about 6 a.m. Saturday to Cabrera's suburban Detroit home.
The complainant was described as "Rosanna Cabrera." Cabrera's wife is Rosangel Cabrera.
Miguel Cabrera showed up at Comerica Park for Saturday's game against the Chicago White Sox with scratches on his face. He and team officials have declined comment.
A neighbor reported she saw officers put a man in one of three police cars in front of Cabrera's home. Records did not immediately indicate whether anyone was charged.
Chief Richard Patterson is expected to make a statement Monday.
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I know what you mean. But the fact remains that the Mets are not a championship team.
Obviously they aren't a championship team right now, my point of contention isn't disputing that, it's disputing Francesa's opinion that having a power 1B is absolutely mandatory, which I think is silly.

He said on his NBC show last night that the Mets need a 1B that will hit them 35-40 HRs and they won't be able to put together a contender without that...not sure why it needs to be a 1B though, I'd take a 35-40 HR hitter in LF just as soon as I would at 1B...they need power any way they can get it. In fact, the only way they can get a 35-40 HR 1B is to trade for Adrian Gonzalez or Prince Fielder, and they don't have the chips for that. The only other option would be to re-sign Delgado which is a huge risk, 37 year olds with hip injuries are never a good sign
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Brewers get their offseason started immediately, re-signing Trevor Hoffman. $8 million in 2010 plus a 2011 mutual option for $8.5 million

Aaron Hill and Chris Carpenter are the Comeback Players of the Year
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Aaron Hill and Chris Carpenter are the Comeback Players of the Year
Both deserved. Especially Carpenter. Nothing but lethal the second half.
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God damnit, why do we have to play the Cardinals? Fuck that rule that says we can't play the Rockies.
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God damnit, why do we have to play the Cardinals? Fuck that rule that says we can't play the Rockies.
Wouldn't be surprised if nobody at MLB headquarters knows the exact reason for that besides to keep division rivalry games away from 1st round for money making reasons.
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Obviously they aren't a championship team right now, my point of contention isn't disputing that, it's disputing Francesa's opinion that having a power 1B is absolutely mandatory, which I think is silly.

He said on his NBC show last night that the Mets need a 1B that will hit them 35-40 HRs and they won't be able to put together a contender without that...not sure why it needs to be a 1B though, I'd take a 35-40 HR hitter in LF just as soon as I would at 1B...they need power any way they can get it. In fact, the only way they can get a 35-40 HR 1B is to trade for Adrian Gonzalez or Prince Fielder, and they don't have the chips for that. The only other option would be to re-sign Delgado which is a huge risk, 37 year olds with hip injuries are never a good sign
Again, I total understand what you are saying.
It's this guy's assessment that is so skewed. He's out to lunch. The Mets are not a championship team.

Tino (as you mentioned) never hit 35-40 HRs for the Yanks. They won a bunch of championships during his tenure.



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BIRMINGHAM, Mich. -- Records show police responded to a "family trouble" call at the home of Detroit Tigers first baseman Miguel Cabrera.

Cabrera
A review of Birmingham Police Department records by The Detroit News indicates officers responded about 6 a.m. Saturday to Cabrera's suburban Detroit home.
The complainant was described as "Rosanna Cabrera." Cabrera's wife is Rosangel Cabrera.
Miguel Cabrera showed up at Comerica Park for Saturday's game against the Chicago White Sox with scratches on his face. He and team officials have declined comment.
A neighbor reported she saw officers put a man in one of three police cars in front of Cabrera's home. Records did not immediately indicate whether anyone was charged.
Chief Richard Patterson is expected to make a statement Monday.

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BIRMINGHAM, Mich. (AP)—Detroit Tigers slugger Miguel Cabrera(notes) was drunk—three times above Michigan’s legal limit for driving, according to police—between two key games over the weekend as his team was trying to win the American League Central title.
The 26-year-old Venezuelan first baseman was taken to a police station Saturday after arriving at his suburban Detroit home at 5 a.m. and getting into a fight with his wife, Birmingham Police Chief Richard Patterson said [...]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns
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God damnit, why do we have to play the Cardinals? Fuck that rule that says we can't play the Rockies.
well being that the Cardinals are the 4 seed and the Dodgers are the 1 they would have to play even without that rule
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No, the Rockies are technically the 4 seed because they are the Wild Card. We finished with the best record in the NL, so we should play the wild card.
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Tino hit 44 HRs and 141 RBIs for the Yankees in 1997.
Yeah he had a couple years where he went berzerk. But his typical #`s were nothing like that. Also in '97 the Yankees lost to Cleveland(?) in the first round.
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Old 10-06-2009, 09:57 AM   #2546
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Yeah but in the 3 of the years they did win the WS, Tino had great numbers as well:

96- 25, 117
98- 28, 123
99, 28, 105

In fact, Tino led the team in RBIs in 96, 97, and 98.
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Yeah, Tino churned out good power numbers later in his career, but his first full year was comparable with Murph's...if he had started his career with the Yanks instead of the M's with those numbers I wonder if Mike would have benched him like he said Murph should.

Hell, the Mets have historically had successful teams even without power at 1B. Keith Hernandez and John Olerud 4tw. Granted, they were defensive geniuses and Murph can't be considered that, but who knows...he played the position for basically the first time ever this year. Looks better at 1B than LF at least.
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As a Mets fan, tonight's game is win/win. Either the Tigers complete a collapse of the division after leading since May, or the Twins drop a heartbreaker in their final game at their stadium. Either way, somebody is gonna feel the Mets' pain, as they managed to do both of those things.
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Pretty much

Should be a good game. I'll be hella impressed if Porcello keeps his composure.
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Molina is gonna catch Burnett is game 2.

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No, the Rockies are technically the 4 seed because they are the Wild Card. We finished with the best record in the NL, so we should play the wild card.
Wild Card teams finish with better records than division winners all the time.
It just depends on your division.

Look at the Red Sox. They're the AL wildcard and they finished with a better record than Tigers and Twins, and they're still fighting it out for the AL Central. 95 wins. Thats more than most teams in the playoffs, but thats the way the system works.

Rockies have more wins than the Cardinals.
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