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Old 01-02-2006, 04:20 AM   #2601
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Vermeil joins Bill Parcells, Dan Reeves, and Don Shula as the only coaches in NFL history to guide two different teams to the Super Bowl. In 1999, he led St. Louis to a win in Super Bowl XXXIV and guided Philadelphia to Super Bowl XV after the 1980 season.

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Ok, we'll ignore all the other stats that make those coaches much better then Vermeil and just pick the one you mentioned.

Super Bowl Records
Shula - 2-4 (6 apperances)
Reeves - 0-4 (4 apperances)
Parcells - 2-1 (3 apperances)
Vermeil - 1-1 (2 apperances)

If you actually take the time, there are many more reasons why those coaches are in or will be and Vermeil shouldn't. Wins, Winning %, Division titles, playoff records, etc...

The whole "winning a super bowl.." yeah, only 38 other coaches have done it (well, less cause some did it more then once) that being said, let's fast foreward to say March of 2105 at that point we will have had 139 superbowls played, does 1 win or 2 apperances still get you in?

Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good coach and a nice guy, but not HOF matertial.
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Old 01-02-2006, 04:23 AM   #2602
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That drop kick extra point was some illllllllllllllllllllshit
I thought funnier was the imami TD before that, celebrating with the ally-oop in a game where you're #1 team is barely beating the 3rd string and then to top it off, you miss the ally-oop and get nailed for the 15yr penalty.

now that was funny!
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So atm we're down Mariucci, Tice, Vermeil and Capers. Haslett and Norv Turner are almost certainties, Martz/Vitt in all likelihood won't be in St Louis, Mularkey may or may not go as well (though he's less likely than those previous). That's 7 vacancies almost certainly, possibly more. Any bets on some replacements/more vacancies?
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Martz could be a good fit in KC or Minnesota.

Mariucci probably could have a NFL job "if" he wanted it, but words been he wants a TV job.

I woudln't be shocked to see Haslett endup somewhere.

Is Parcells contract up this year or next year? He could decide to "retire again".

might be time for Brian Billick to move on and if he does leave, he'll get another coaching job if he wants it.

Could this be the year Gary Kubiak finally takes a head coaching job?

Seems every year his name comes up and he never goes anywhere, of his own choice...
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Parcells has 1 year left from what I understand. Ravens already announced that Billick will be there next year.
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Next year's early schedule is up, no dates/times yet but the teams to be played against should give a good idea what kind of strength of schedule there will be. I won't list the divisional games cause we all know what they'll be, but it basically boils down to

AFC East plays NFC North
AFC North plays NFC South
AFC South plays NFC East
AFC West plays NFC West (no griping about cross country next year)

AFC East

Buffalo
Home: Jacksonville, Tennessee, Green Bay, Minnesota, San Diego
Away: Houston, Indianapolis, Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore

Miami
Home: Jacksonville, Tennessee, Green Bay, Minnesota, Kansas City
Away: Houston, Indianapolis, Chicago, Detroit, Pittsburgh

New England
Home: Houston, Indianapolis (start the arguments now ), Chicago, Detroit, Denver
Away: Jacksonville, Tennessee, Green Bay, Minnesota, Cincinnati

NY Jets
Home: Houston, Indianapolis, Chicago, Detroit, Oakland
Away: Jacksonville, Tennessee, Green Bay, Minnesota, Cleveland

AFC North

Baltimore
Home: Oakland, San Diego, Atlanta, Carolina, Buffalo
Away: Denver, Kansas City, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Tennessee

Cincinnati
Home: Oakland, San Diego, Atlanta, Carolina, New England
Away: Denver, Kansas City, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis (oh my )

Cleveland
Home: Denver, Kansas City, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, NY Jets
Away: Oakland, San Diego, Atlanta, Carolina, Houston

Pittsburgh
Home: Denver, Kansas City, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Miami
Away: Oakland, San Diego, Atlanta, Carolina, Jacksonville

AFC South

Houston
Home: Buffalo, Miami, Philadelphia, Washington, Cleveland
Away: New England, NY Jets, Dallas, NY Giants, Oakland

Indianapolis
Home: Buffalo, Miami, Philadelphia, Washington, Cincinnati
Away: New England, NY Jets, Dallas, NY Giants, Denver (oh my )

Jacksonville
Home: New England, NY Jets, Dallas, NY Giants, Pittsburgh
Away: Buffalo, Miami, Philadelphia, Washington, Kansas City

Tennessee
Home: New England, NY Jets, Dallas, NY Giants, Baltimore
Away: Buffalo, Miami, Philadelphia, Washington, San Diego

AFC West

Denver
Home: Baltimore, Cincinnati, San Francisco, Seattle, Indianapolis
Away: Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Arizona, St Louis, New England

Kansas City
Home: Baltimore, Cincinnati, San Francisco, Seattle, Jacksonville
Away: Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Arizona, St Louis, Miami

Oakland
Home: Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Arizona, St Louis, Houston
Away: Baltimore, Cincinnati, San Francisco, Seattle, NY Jets

San Diego
Home: Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Arizona, St Louis, Tennessee
Away: Baltimore, Cincinnati, San Francisco, Seattle, Buffalo

NFC East

Dallas
Home: New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Houston, Indianapolis, Detroit
Away: Atlanta, Carolina, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Arizona

NY Giants
Home: New Orleans (just like this year then ), Tampa Bay, Houston, Indianapolis, Chicago
Away: Atlanta, Carolina, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Seattle

Philadelphia
Home: New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Houston, Indianapolis, Green Bay
Away: Atlanta, Carolina, Jacksonville, Tennessee, San Francisco

Washington
Home: New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Houston, Indianapolis, Minnesota
Away: Atlanta, Carolina, Jacksonville, Tennessee, St Louis

NFC North

Chicago
Home: San Francisco, Seattle, Buffalo, Miami, Tampa Bay
Away: Arizona, St Louis, New England, NY Jets, NY Giants

Detroit
Home: San Francisco, Seattle, Buffalo, Miami, Atlanta
Away: Arizona, St Louis, New England, NY Jets, Dallas

Green Bay
Home: Arizona, St Louis, New England, NY Jets, New Orleans
Away: San Francisco, Seattle, Buffalo, Miami, Philadelphia

Minnesota
Home: Arizona, St Louis, New England, NY Jets, Carolina
Away: San Francisco, Seattle, Buffalo, Miami, Washington

NFC South

Atlanta
Home: Dallas, NY Giants, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Arizona
Away: Philadelphia, Washington, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Detroit

Carolina
Home: Dallas, NY Giants, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, St Louis
Away: Philadelphia, Washington, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Minnesota

New Orleans
Home: Philadelphia, Washington, Baltimore, Cincinnati, San Francisco
Away: Dallas, NY Giants, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Green Bay

Tampa Bay
Home: Philadelphia, Washington, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Seattle
Away: Dallas, NY Giants, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Chicago

NFC West

Arizona
Home: Chicago, Detroit, Denver, Kansas City, Dallas
Away: Green Bay, Minnesota, Oakland, San Diego, Atlanta

St Louis
Home: Chicago, Detroit, Denver, Kansas City, Washington
Away: Green Bay, Minnesota, Oakland, San Diego, Carolina

San Francisco
Home: Green Bay, Minnesota, Oakland, San Diego, Philadelphia
Away: Chicago, Detroit, Denver, Kansas City, New Orleans

Seattle
Home: Green Bay, Minnesota, Oakland, San Diego, NY Giants
Away: Chicago, Detroit, Denver, Kansas City, Tampa Bay

The ones that immediately jump out at me are Cincinnati (v. tough), Seattle, (tough) and San Diego (pretty soft)
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The whole "winning a super bowl.." yeah, only 38 other coaches have done it (well, less cause some did it more then once)
1/8 of the Super Bowls have been won by a head coach who graduated from the University of Dayton which is more than any other school in the country. OH YEAH
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Sherman is a pretty good coach. He is just a horrible, horrible General Manager.

Vikings would be wise to bring him in to just coach, leaving Brzynski to do the amazing job of staffing he's done.
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Thompson said his decision didn't have anything to do with the record this year, he knows we had a bad record because of injuries.

Hopefully this won't affect Favre's decision...we need Mariucci or that Childress guy from Philly.
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lol I will shoot myself if we get Gregg Williams or Mike Martz as our head coach. It's just not a good idea.
I dunno, I can't see Greg Williams getting rehired as a head coach already.

As for Martz, he's a great offensive mind, the only problem I've always had with him, is he what he's doing isn't working, he's not willing to adapt, it's the "well, it can't be the system it must be the execution" attitude, and seems more willing to force a system on players rather then create a system for the players he has.

That being said, he wouldn't be a horrible fit for the Vikes, with the talent you have, his system could work pretty well and hopefully he learned from his mistakes (see: Belicheck - Cleveland).
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Ok, we'll ignore all the other stats that make those coaches much better then Vermeil and just pick the one you mentioned.

Super Bowl Records
Shula - 2-4 (6 apperances)
Reeves - 0-4 (4 apperances)
Parcells - 2-1 (3 apperances)
Vermeil - 1-1 (2 apperances)

If you actually take the time, there are many more reasons why those coaches are in or will be and Vermeil shouldn't. Wins, Winning %, Division titles, playoff records, etc...

The whole "winning a super bowl.." yeah, only 38 other coaches have done it (well, less cause some did it more then once) that being said, let's fast foreward to say March of 2105 at that point we will have had 139 superbowls played, does 1 win or 2 apperances still get you in?

Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good coach and a nice guy, but not HOF matertial.

Oh well he'll definatly be in the MISSOURI Hall of fame.
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Rams have asked for permission to speak to Ron Rivera. I know the Bears D is great and all but I dunno if it'd be so wise a choice as head coach.
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I dunno, I can't see Greg Williams getting rehired as a head coach already.

As for Martz, he's a great offensive mind, the only problem I've always had with him, is he what he's doing isn't working, he's not willing to adapt, it's the "well, it can't be the system it must be the execution" attitude, and seems more willing to force a system on players rather then create a system for the players he has.

That being said, he wouldn't be a horrible fit for the Vikes, with the talent you have, his system could work pretty well and hopefully he learned from his mistakes (see: Belicheck - Cleveland).
I would be very interested to see Martz put his fingerprints on the Vikings offense... everyone wanted us to have a team that won and stopped trying so hard to be an offense-minded team, but that's not fun. The thing is, I just don't think Martz is a very good coach.

You know, I was talking to my brother about this today... how many defensive head coaches are there available besides Ron Rivera to be hired? I mean, are there any who lost their jobs? Aren't ALL of the guys who have been fired... offense-minded coaches? Whenever a defensive coordinator gets a head coaching job, he always keeps his job. Because when you build around defense, you don't have to be that good on offense, and when you focus on the tougher side of the ball, you're bound to be a tougher team because of it.

I think Ron Rivera might be pretty good; Kubiak if at all possible... dunno, someone like that. Bring back Ditka. lol, just no more offense... at least if we plan on winning.
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But really now, theres going to be a huge mix and match with coaching staffs next years.
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this just in... Sherman out
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ROFL WHY would he do that? Going years without accepting any offers... every year getting new offers, and now... going to the worst team ever?
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Well he is supposed to interview for them this week
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Reggie Bush is not the Texans' answer to their problems. RB is probably their best position.
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