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Old 01-03-2006, 03:32 AM   #2641
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Well then, in the playoffs Merriman will make up for it, and force 12 fumbles from Bush in the game.

Also, IT SEEMS BILL PARCELLS HAS NOT SIGNED HIS EXTENSION AND IS CONTEMPLATING HIS FUTURE.

HIS FUTURE

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COACHING THE VIKINGS.

Holy shit, please God I've been a good boy... you gave me Sharper and I'm thankful for that, but Parcells in Minnesota would be so NEAT, you have no idea!
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Old 01-03-2006, 03:57 AM   #2643
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At least wait until you get elminated this year before you complain about next years schedule
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Old 01-03-2006, 04:13 AM   #2644
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I know we talked pre-season about strength of schedule, which based off 2004 had Miami with the most difficult, the Pats 2nd (only because they played miami where miami played the pats) and the Past had the "toughets stretch in nfl history" I think it was like a 6 game stretch. My points always been that SOS before the season means crap, because you have teams like Miami who go from being
4-12 in 2004 to being 9-7 in 2005
Teams like the Jets
10-6 Playoff team in 2004 to 4-12 in 2005.

I always say, lets look at SOS when the season is over, well it is and here's a link with a break down.

http://www.fftoday.com/sos/sos.htm

a few notes.

Playoff team who had the toughest schedule: New England
Playoff team who had the easiest schedule: Seattle

It's something interesting to look at, but don't put too much stock into it, while it does have some effect, you can't choose who you play, I prefer to look at teams records vs. over .500 teams, if someone has a link or time to to that, please post! thanks!
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Seriously though, check out those Dolphins. Pretty promising year (but they've had like 5 of them in the last 6 years or something)...

Also, I dunno if I posted it here but I'll post it again: TICE ASKED TO BE TOLD SOONER THAN LATER WHETHER HE WAS GETTING FIRED. THEY RESPECTED HIS WISHES YET FINISHED THE SEASON RATHER THAN FIRING HIM WITH ONE GAME LEFT (which is what Red did to Denny Green).

So Tice got to go out on top, he went out with a smile, it was an emotional victory, and I hope to see him back in MN someday soon.

I would orgasm 3 million times if he came back as an assistant coach under Parcells. Maybe put Martz in at O-Coordinator
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Seriously though, check out those Dolphins. Pretty promising year (but they've had like 5 of them in the last 6 years or something)...

Also, I dunno if I posted it here but I'll post it again: TICE ASKED TO BE TOLD SOONER THAN LATER WHETHER HE WAS GETTING FIRED. THEY RESPECTED HIS WISHES YET FINISHED THE SEASON RATHER THAN FIRING HIM WITH ONE GAME LEFT (which is what Red did to Denny Green).

So Tice got to go out on top, he went out with a smile, it was an emotional victory, and I hope to see him back in MN someday soon.

I would orgasm 3 million times if he came back as an assistant coach under Parcells. Maybe put Martz in at O-Coordinator
On the Phins I agree, I figured they'd look good, but was suprised how good. They need a QB and some of their defensive stars are getting up in age, but are still on top of their game. That being said, I think the difference between this and the previous "promising" dolphin teams is they have a good coach.
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On Tice, maybe they were afraid he'd try and scalp his superbowl tickets

Nah, I heard the same, he wanted to know ASAP, that being said... didn't they tell him in the lockeroom shortly after the game? dunno, I guess they could have let him known before the game so he could say "goodbye" to his team...
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Wilf promised midway through the season, Tice would coach until the end... and he did.
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Don't the Vikings have a wealth of RB's? They have Mewelde Moore, Ciatrick Fason, Moe Williams and Michael Bennett. They oughta get a coach who will utilize that. I'm not sure how their defense is.
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Their D pretty much got them to the brink of the playoffs after LoveBoat, so who knows. I read an article somewhere about Culpepper maybe not going back after he's rehabbed though (), let me find it...

Here scroll down to the Daunte's Inferno bit. I really can't see it happening, but who knows?
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Moss leaving is one thing, but Culpepper aswell would just be fucking ridiculous. Who would they start instead, Brad Johnson all season? Fuck that
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Should have made a Flutie Flakes joke.
Friend of mine bought a box once... said they were so bad they caused autism!
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and who did you want to give ST player of the week to.

Remember, I'm a Pats fan, but I can't stand Flutie. I respect what he's done for charity (given it's a charity that benefits a disease his son has), anyone I know who has delt with him personally has said he's an ass, and he gets a free ride in this town because he threw a lucky pass, he tried to play in the NFL and couldn't, his WR's complain things like "you have no idea where the ball is coming from because you can't see him back there".

That being said, it being "special" because it hadn't been done since 1941 is crap! (or was it in 41 years?), it's not done because a FG style pick is easier and more accurate.

That being said, what he did is not easy, and I gotta give him props for it. Of course, if the game counted it wouldn't have ever happened, but now he can be in the books for hopefully his last season, for his home team, with a score.
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I really don't care that he got any recognition or award for it but c'mon. It was a dropkick, meaningless in all sense. Its not like it won the Pats the game. Its pretty stupid in the sense that Flutie actually practiced something like this and everyone makes a big deal out of it.
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I really don't care that he got any recognition or award for it but c'mon. It was a dropkick, meaningless in all sense. Its not like it won the Pats the game. Its pretty stupid in the sense that Flutie actually practiced something like this and everyone makes a big deal out of it.
Actually Steve Deosie (former Giant, Pat, Jet) and local radio guy, played at BC, I think same time as Flutie said a few of them used to do them at practice for fun.

I just give him credit because it's not easy to do, hit the ground just right, kick etc... it's funny, I don't think anyone think's it's a great accomplishment, it's simply something not seen for many years and it was found funny.

My brother is a Phins fan, he couldn't figure out what was more embarasaing, Flutie hitting that kick, or the missed ally-op which also got a 15yd penalty when the Phins 1st team was barely beating the Pats cheerleaders.
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I haven't heard anything about the dropkick since the day after it happened. I don't anyone is really saying its the greatest shit ever, but it was pretty sick. It's actaully better then back in the day, because when they did it all the time, the ball was mad differently and you bounce the ball back up, like a rugby ball. So when they used to do it, they didn't do it like Flutie, where he kicked right when the ball touched the ground. They used to let to bounce back up then kick it.
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I haven't heard anything about the dropkick since the day after it happened. I don't anyone is really saying its the greatest shit ever, but it was pretty sick. It's actaully better then back in the day, because when they did it all the time, the ball was mad differently and you bounce the ball back up, like a rugby ball. So when they used to do it, they didn't do it like Flutie, where he kicked right when the ball touched the ground. They used to let to bounce back up then kick it.
I could have sworn there was a bounce before he kicked it, not a huge bounce, but a bounce... it's was quick so I could be wrong.
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There was, very brief one. Actually makes it harder cause there's no exact way to know how the ball will react when it hits the ground unless you drop it in exactly the right spot.
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First let me say, in all fairness he got some things right, he called the Colts D top 5 and we all laughed at him, he predicted Orton could lead the Bears and make the playoffs and we all laughed at him and a few other things.

Also, I'll be the first to say, you can find plenty of things I screwed up (so did everyone) such as last year when I felt Tiki Barber was a 1yr fluke (he did it again this year, he even had less fumbles this year! Plus my "The Jets will make the playoffs and possible the division" didn't exactly pan out did it?

But, since me and RP enjoy our back and forth, and he stands by his team and I really needed a distraction for a few mins... her's some quotes of RP's from before the season.

As said, he got some right and some wrong, and I'd never call him the "Wadding" of the forum!

Ok, I’m bored so a little RP history from before the season.

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In the North , Everyone is in love with the Vikings. I'm in love with Detroit. I'll take Detroit coming out of this division. Once they bench Harrington ( THEY WILL BENCH HARRINGTON ) Garcia will run that team brilliantly. Mooch might be chasing a Superbowl ring soon.


In the South , Carolina is going to be big this year.


In the West, I love Arizona . They got a great Offense. If they're O-line protects Warner just a little bit. they'll be 8-8. I think they will win the division by default.

The Seahawks just seem like a train wreck waiting to happen. I bet that Shaun Alexander issue will catch fire during the season and disrupt.



In the North, Baltimore Ravens. I think Kyle Boller is ready to step up and be a Superstar. Jamal Lewis has his court deal behind him. They have a decent core of recievers and Todd Heap is one of the best tight ends in the league. They're defense is one of the best in the league. I think Pittsburgh will have a horrible downfall to 8-8.


In the West , I like the Chiefs.

Denver will be Denver. A whole lot of bark. Not alot of bite. Probably will finish last in the division.


In the South, I'm taking Indianapolis.

You'll hear it here first. Look out for the Texans. This team worries me. They have a good defense and David Carr is the next Brett Farve imo. The guy slings it. He's one of the most exciting QB's in the league for me to watch. He's got a solid rb and great recievers to throw too. If they can protect him and he can cut down on his Int's. The Texans are going to the playoffs this year.



NFL MVP = You know , this may be a stretch , but i'm going to say Willis McGahee.

NFL rookie of the year= Cedric Benson. I just have a hunch here.

Vinatari will get hurt and the Patriots will sign Doug Brien.

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The Broncos, Bengals, Browns, Dolphins, Texans, and Raiders arent going to the playoffs. Are they a challenge? Maybe, but the Bills have a better team then all of them. The only team even close to the Bills ( Out of that group ) is the Bengals.

Im picking the Cheifs to win the West and i dont think the Chargers will do anything better then 8-8.
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This year will be the most important in Mannings career. He has the best Defense he's ever had on his team. Every peice from last years Offense is in tact with the exception of Pollard and an O-linemen. There really isnt any excuses this year. This team should win the Superbowl, but if they cant beat the Pats... Tuff shit for Manning.
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I could have sworn there was a bounce before he kicked it, not a huge bounce, but a bounce... it's was quick so I could be wrong.
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Also, I'm sure we've all made bad predictions in the past... that's part of making bold predictions: Anyone can say "Well you can never count the pats out, but you never know in the NFL, maybe even the Bears could make some noise!"
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I was all like ... Willis Magahee ??? Duhh!

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Also, I'm sure we've all made bad predictions in the past... that's part of making bold predictions: Anyone can say "Well you can never count the pats out, but you never know in the NFL, maybe even the Bears could make some noise!"
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VEL I'm curious, going by your definition of paper team (ie the Chargers last season) what is your take on the Seahawks? Their schedule is below btw

Sep 11 @Jacksonville Lost 14-26
Sep 18 Atlanta Won 21-18
Sep 25 Arizona Won 37-12
Oct 2 @Washington Lost 17-20
Oct 9 @St. Louis Won 37-31
Oct 16 Houston Won 42-10
Oct 23 Dallas Won 13-10
Week 8 BYE
Nov 6 @Arizona Won 33-19
Nov 13 St. Louis Won 31-16
Nov 20 @San Francisco Won 27-25
Nov 27 N.Y. Giants Won 24-21
Dec 5 @Philadelphia Won 42-0
Dec 11 San Francisco Won 41-3
Dec 18 @Tennessee Won 28-24
Dec 24 Indianapolis Won 28-13
Jan 1 @Green Bay Lost 17-23
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VEL I'm curious, going by your definition of paper team (ie the Chargers last season) what is your take on the Seahawks? Their schedule is below btw

Sep 11 @Jacksonville Lost 14-26
Sep 18 Atlanta Won 21-18
Sep 25 Arizona Won 37-12
Oct 2 @Washington Lost 17-20
Oct 9 @St. Louis Won 37-31
Oct 16 Houston Won 42-10
Oct 23 Dallas Won 13-10
Week 8 BYE
Nov 6 @Arizona Won 33-19
Nov 13 St. Louis Won 31-16
Nov 20 @San Francisco Won 27-25
Nov 27 N.Y. Giants Won 24-21
Dec 5 @Philadelphia Won 42-0
Dec 11 San Francisco Won 41-3
Dec 18 @Tennessee Won 28-24
Dec 24 Indianapolis Won 28-13
Jan 1 @Green Bay Lost 17-23
Ya know, I was looking at this the other day, after picking Seattle to go to the superbowl and then posting the SOS link above...

They had he 4th easiest schedule in the NFL.

that being said, they were 4-2 against teams .500 or above, they were 2-2 against teams that made the playoffs.

So, while they did have a lot of bad teams on their schedule, when they played the good ones they won 2/3 of them and 1/2 of them vs playoff teams.

No we can argue the Indy game shouldn't count, Indy had nothing to prove, homefield, streak over, coach out.... so if you take that game away.

3-2 vs good teams, 1-2 against playoffs teams.

The example I use for a "paper team" is SD of last year, who was (if I remember correctly) 2-4 against good teams.
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That dropkick is not as hard as people think it is. It's fairly easy once you get the bounce down. If that was the first time he had ever tried it would've been more impressive but guys in rugby can drop kick a ball a good 50 yards. Not to sound self servient but I made a 40 meter (roughly 43 yards) drop kick and I was just some high school rugby punk.

I just enjoyed the fact that they even thought about trying it. Good for them
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