11-09-2017, 06:24 PM | #241 |
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The whole soundtrack is credited to them. XL came up with the Batman theme, Zimmer with wonder woman. He says it right there
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11-10-2017, 12:45 PM | #242 |
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Reading social media reports that people are calling it a fun movie, and praising the interaction of the cast..... but that at the same time that the actual plot and villain are really thin......
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11-10-2017, 12:53 PM | #243 |
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As long as it isnt cringy that will be a win...
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11-10-2017, 02:10 PM | #244 | |
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Ive been let down before by MoS soundtrack Zimmer somehow didnt put that bit of music that plays when Superman chases the escape pod. |
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11-10-2017, 02:23 PM | #245 |
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I'd be totally fine if this was Batmans theme
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11-10-2017, 04:07 PM | #246 | |
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11-10-2017, 04:51 PM | #247 |
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11-10-2017, 04:59 PM | #248 |
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Yeah that's what I was looking for. It's quite obviously the Zimmer Superman song but with Elfman putting it together.
Elfman does the wonder woman theme and it sounds just fine. That's what I was hoping for here for Supes but it may not happen. Oh well. The mixed but mostly positive reaction is a good sign. |
11-11-2017, 03:24 PM | #249 |
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https://youtu.be/fLNV2MgNDBw
Skip to the 1:13 mark. Not sure how it'll fit but I can't help but geek out a bit. I was only 6 the last time I heard that song in a theater. |
11-11-2017, 06:08 PM | #250 | |
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Anti Hero is awesome though As for the MoS thing this track was in the movie but not on the OS or the bonus It drove me nuts (this is fan created btw) |
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11-11-2017, 06:11 PM | #251 |
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I think that shouldve been his theme (or Flight) because I kinda hate the one he has its not Superman enough.
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11-11-2017, 06:41 PM | #252 |
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Yeah flight is a great track. Agreed on that track above not being officially released. And agree on Elfman being lazy with some of the themes
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11-11-2017, 09:41 PM | #253 |
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I loved this theme for Superman and I was pissed that they didn't use it in BvS, they just hint at it... and it looks like its gone now based on the new soundtrack??? |
11-11-2017, 10:01 PM | #254 |
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Not in the soundtrack at all. Not sure if it's in the film. We'll have to see. It'll suck if it isn't. But I'm doubting it.
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11-11-2017, 11:04 PM | #255 |
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Not listening to anything from the Justice League soundtrack because I like to experience it with the movie first.......
Since this comes out next week I just forced myself to rewatch Batman v Superman...... I forgot how much of a mess that movie was...... |
11-11-2017, 11:23 PM | #256 |
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It's a heaping turd
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11-12-2017, 01:23 PM | #257 | |
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But yea it was a mess of a film all that to play catch up when they wouldve done better to go slow and not have 9 plots in one film |
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11-12-2017, 01:49 PM | #258 |
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I did watch the extended cut...... I don't really remember enough to tell what was different.... I think the part in the beginning in Africa made slightly more sense, but on the whole the entire plot/Luthor's plan still was a mess.
RIP Jimmy Olsen...... I hope that they reveal that that CIA operative was just using Jimmy Olsen's identity as a photographer for cover, and the real Jimmy Olsen is still out there. |
11-12-2017, 02:03 PM | #259 |
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Really hope that Superman comes back to life as a much less "dour" individual
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11-12-2017, 02:59 PM | #260 |
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Early reactions are Cavill finally gets to play a more standard edition of Supes. Looking forward to it hearing that the team plays well together
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11-12-2017, 07:57 PM | #261 |
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Watching BvS now on HBO and lol. Superman is such a jackass.
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11-12-2017, 08:02 PM | #262 |
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Remember the vocal minority who swore it was good and it was only people being "racist" toward DC that said it sucked?
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11-12-2017, 08:10 PM | #263 |
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I remembered it as being decent. But naw.
That was after reading all the terrible reviews and I went in with the lowest expectations possible. |
11-12-2017, 09:08 PM | #264 |
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I remember going in with very low expectations, and then it not even living up to those.
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11-12-2017, 09:20 PM | #265 |
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Batman V Superman shouldve just copy /pasted Worlds Finest movie but they probably wouldve fucked that up too.
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11-12-2017, 09:22 PM | #266 |
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The moral of the story is Zach Snyder sucks and should be kept away from making your favorite hero
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11-12-2017, 09:31 PM | #267 |
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Have a feeling I won't like this movie. Liked all the DC movies so far but I feel like the changes they are making wont fit me. Hope I do but not feeling like it so far.
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11-12-2017, 10:59 PM | #268 | |
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Its not overly goofy and good natured like Marvel but its also not mired in dark navel gazing and symbolism like Zach's attempts to pull off Chris Nolan. |
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11-13-2017, 01:34 AM | #269 |
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My only fear with JL is my general fear with the DCEU as a cinematic universe and what makes their characters distinct from Marvel. Marvel superheroes are depicted as 'people', who are seen as people doing a job for better or worst. Their drama is more soap operatic as they interact with each other and the world they live in. DC superheroes are 'symbols', representing entire facets of their universe. This is why the Justice League are so often regarded as modern gods or monuments. Their symbols transcend who they actually are which is why their monikers can be retired and graduated toward, hence the generational aspect of their hero structure: teens, young adults, and adults. It is expected, for instance, that Damien will be Batman. Or Donna Troy will be the Wonder Woman. Or Jon Kent will be Superman.
Obviously mantle passing occurs in Marvel, but there's a reason it rarely feels as organic and natural as DC. X23 didn't need to 'graduate' into Wolverine, Logan is Wolverine, she's X23. You already know how I feel with FemThor. However, fill-ins are a more natural occurrence with Marvel. Because again, these are people doing 'jobs'. Bucky can fill in as Cap, but it's not this generational thing where 'one day he will be Cap' like 'one day Dick will be Batman' (and he did before New52 pissed on everything). So back to DCEU; the modern myth, symbolic nature of these heroes are the best way to depict them with making a Marvel movie with different heroes. The Nolan trilogy is actually predicated on the weight of a symbol on one man. Wonder Woman very deliberately presented her as larger than life and symbolic. DCEU needs to be that, all the time. If the Suicide Squad 2 plot rumor is true perhaps they will. |
11-13-2017, 01:46 AM | #270 |
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What is the Suicide Squad 2 plot rumour?
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11-13-2017, 09:29 AM | #272 |
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I just don't want them to over do the comedy to the point it feels cheeky like a Marvel movie. I think the DC movies have been good because they are different than Marvel and seem to be set in a more realistic modern world. I knew once Flash and Cyborg came in that their youthfulness would lighten up the mood as it naturally should although I hate Cyborg and he looks awful.
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11-13-2017, 10:26 AM | #273 |
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Yeah, to me, cyborg is the Falcon of DC Comics. Just a very boring character with nothing to really grab me or make me care about him as a reader.
Cringed at their attempt to get Falcon over in Secret Empire. |
11-13-2017, 10:40 AM | #274 |
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Falcon is probably a good comparison, haven't ever read a Marvel comic so I can't say anything on that front but the character in the movies is kind of meaningless.
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11-13-2017, 10:45 AM | #275 |
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I actually like Falcon in the movies. He has more personality, and his abilities are more impressive to watch on screen then to look at them on the page.
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11-13-2017, 11:06 AM | #276 |
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I used to like Cyborg when he had the "generational" aspect about him. Starting off a Teen Titan and then right before the New 52 he was just beginning to become a bigger deal, joining the Justice League and all.
I hate that they got rid of that with the New 52 and made him a founding member of the Justice League, with no Martian Manhunter in sight. Actually reading it, I get why they did it. Rather than have another character with Superman-like powers, they replaced him with a dude all about technology for today's technology driven world. Also he pretty much serves as their mode of transportation with being able to produce boom tubes now. I don't mind the role he plays in the Justice League, but part of me still feels like he doesn't fit in because he doesn't have that generational aspect anymore. You have all these iconic symbols and figures...... and Cyborg. Also, there have been a few solo Cyborg series the past few years..... haven't read any of them, but I just can't imagine them being any good. This version of Cyborg seems alright if he is just in the background mostly being "tech guy" and "living mode of transportation", but I can't imagine him carrying his own series/movie. |
11-13-2017, 11:07 AM | #277 |
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Movie Falcon is more interesting than Comic Book Falcon...hopefully movie Cyborg will be more interesting than his comic counterpart.
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11-13-2017, 11:14 AM | #278 |
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Really liked the pre-New 52 Justice League, actually..... was pretty much the "epitome" of the generational aspect DC used to do so well....
Batman (Dick Grayson) Donna Troy Supergirl Jesse Quick Jade Starman (Mikaal Tomas) Congorilla |
11-13-2017, 11:47 AM | #279 | |
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JL is said to be very much still be a Snyder film. But with Whedon sharpening up the chemistry and character building for the team. Something Snyder is awful at. The only thing that matters is its good, and that the heroes are done well and the general audience embraces it. Wonder Woman did that. JL sounds like, while not as good, is heading in that direction. Which is good because it lends itself to success and further stories for these characters. |
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11-13-2017, 12:30 PM | #280 |
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I know critically these movies have been negative but they fit what I've been looking for. I'm never one to read critics anyway. I think they've represented the characters well in a modern reality while also having that comic book feel. I understand the tone argument but I also feel like the characters have dictated the tone of the movies and always believed that introducing characters later on like Flash and Cyborg would naturally lighten up the tone.
I don't get all the love for Wonder Woman though. I liked it and thought it was good as well but I thought it was pretty much Man of Steel only with Wonder Woman. They told extremely similar stories with the only difference being how the title character chooses to be a hero. Now I'll admit I only own DC comics and probably am a bit bias towards the movies. I enjoy the Marvel movies but probably don't get all the references to the source material as much as I do the DC films. I also feel like the Marvel movies have set the mold for a comic book movie and enjoyed the alternative that DC movies presented and just hope they don't push to far into that mold. |