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Old 06-12-2010, 12:31 PM   #241
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Realistically, we don't know. All we can guess is that WWE didn't know Danielson was going to do it.
I just can't figure out why Danielson would do it. He had to have known about the rule against it!
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What gets me is that the reports immediately following Raw was that Vince and Steph were very happy about the way it all went.

Internet reporting is shit, I know, but surely the rumblings of discontent regarding the breaking of the 'choking rules' (heh heh) would have been there. Then there's the point about it being shown at all by the producers.

Also with Danielson at FCW on Wednesday, it would seem that this all must have happened since then as why risk having him do a similar thing in a similar angle there - televised or not, it was always going to show up that he was there.

All I know is, that I've not been this tuned in to latest developments about news on a living wrestler, probably ever.
Yeah, that's the biggest thing here. He worked the FCW tapings. So outside sources influencing the decision seem likely.

Is FCW a completely separate entity from WWE in that they have their own contracts in addition to the WWE contracts? Or is it all WWE contracted wrestlers?
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Old 06-12-2010, 12:33 PM   #243
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Yeah, that's the biggest thing here. He worked the FCW tapings. So outside sources influencing the decision seem likely.
Hence, Mattel's involvement
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Old 06-12-2010, 12:33 PM   #244
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If they really, really want Danielson to be a part of this stable - I hope they just drag this out and have Barrett caution that another attack will come, keep everybody in suspense.

The July PPV is over a month away, let them (including a freshly rehired Danielson) show up then and get Barrett the belt.

Everybody will know the reason for the delay was because Bryan was canned in real life, but they can play it off in kayfabe that they were just "biding their time".

I can't wait to see what happens on Raw now, and how they treat this.
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I just can't figure out why Danielson would do it. He had to have known about the rule against it!
Because it's very very common, it's a good shot for facials, it's a heel thing to do, it can (usually) be done without any injury or repercussion. I doubt there's been a mass run in in the history of wrestling without a heel choking somebody. I'd guess the adrenaline got the best of him if he did know chokes were banned.
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The choking of Justin Roberts *and* the spitting on John Cena were BOTH edited from the replays.
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I'd guess the adrenaline got the best of him if he did know chokes were banned.
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I refuse to believe that spitting on Cena was not agreed between them beforehand.
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Even it wasn't, I highly doubt Cena would have had much of a problem with it.
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Vince, on the other hand....
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people spit all the time.

i dont think danielson knew, because remember when slater was going to choke cena with the ropes, someone yelled NO

for him to get fired over this, if thats what it was, is pretty stupid.

but if it is a work, its pretty stupid for them to post also. why was his name singled out, and not the rest of the rookies. makes no sense.

i hope its not true
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...is not completely retarded.
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....He released Danielson...
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fucking lame.
If the rumors are true and he was released due to the PG crap..come the fuck on. He is one of the most talented agents out there right now. Not even a second fucking chance? ridiculous.
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i dont think danielson knew, because remember when slater was going to choke cena with the ropes, someone yelled NO
You would think Danielson and anyone else hired to work for WWE would be informed of any and all rules first.

Also, if the spitting wasn't an issue, it wouldn't be edited out of the replays.
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....He released Danielson...
Oh shit yeah, better close down WWE right now.
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fucking lame.
If the rumors are true and he was released due to the PG crap..come the fuck on. He is one of the most talented agents out there right now. Not even a second fucking chance? ridiculous.
they'll bring him back when this blows over
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How about RAW last Monday. That was a great show.

Vince isn't completely retarded and knows what he's doing, but A LOT of things he does you have to look at and wonder "what the fuck?"

Stopping a match for a trickle of blood while allowing legitimate injuries to continue? Come on...

Don't think I need to continue, really.
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All we can guess is that WWE didn't know Danielson was going to do it.
They didn't know Danielson would do it, Danielson didn't know he couldn't, and yet they fired him anyway?! That doesn't seem fair.
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Also, if the spitting wasn't an issue, it wouldn't be edited out of the replays.
Exactly, which is my point. If it's edited out, then it must be a rule. People may 'spit all the time', but I can't recall the last time it happened like that on Raw.

Perhaps I have a lower opinion of spitting on someone else, but I've always kinda felt that something like that would be spoken about beforehand, to which point - Cena says 'no'.

Which means if he didn't, and it is an issue, Cena wasn't aware of the rules either.
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Exactly, which is my point. If it's edited out, then it must be a rule. People may 'spit all the time', but I can't recall the last time it happened like that on Raw.

Perhaps I have a lower opinion of spitting on someone else, but I've always kinda felt that something like that would be spoken about beforehand, to which point - Cena says 'no'.

Which means if he didn't, and it is an issue, Cena wasn't aware of the rules either.
The spitting probably IS a rule, just like with the blood. People are saying the spitting happens all the time - but does it really? Think about it. Name the last time you saw any WWE wrestler spit at another one.
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They didn't know Danielson would do it, Danielson didn't know he couldn't, and yet they fired him anyway?! That doesn't seem fair.
Which is probably why there are lots of rumblings about him being brought back when it dies down, they know it's a bit of a daft/unique situation but are doing what they feel they have to do right now.
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I wonder if WWE promised him that he'd be back and get a push when they broke him the news.

It'd be pretty funny if he went back to ROH really. His last show there, he promised he'd kick Cena's head in. Well, if that's his last memory in a WWE ring, then it was mission accomplished.

Zomg maybe this is the start of a WWE/ROH talent exchange!!!1!!!
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This is probably Dixie Carter's 'big news', "Hey TNA fans! We might be able to sign a guy that worked for WWE for 5 minutes in about 90 days!"
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Truth be told, if it is a work, I wouldn't be at all surprised if WWE let him work an ROH show to sell it. They're not competition, not even close. And they've loaned talent out before; I could see them doing it again.
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Hasn't shown up here yet, oddly. Might just be a matter of time, but all the other releases show up here.
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Hasn't shown up here yet, oddly. Might just be a matter of time, but all the other releases show up here.
Yeah, it's not in the corporate releases section either, which has all guys released in 2010 so far listed, which could add to more conspiracy/work theories.
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I dont understand how u guys can think its real. Its so obvious part of a storyline to screw with the internet fans because they know internet fans jack off all over Bryan Danielson.

Remember Matt Hardy being "fired" during the Edge angle?

Yeah...now u should be sure that this is a fake firing.
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The spitting probably IS a rule, just like with the blood. People are saying the spitting happens all the time - but does it really? Think about it. Name the last time you saw any WWE wrestler spit at another one.
Carlito spat in peoples faces all the time.
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Old 06-12-2010, 01:00 PM   #272
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I have not been this shocked about wrestling since WWE bought WCW, or Owen's accident. If this is a work, then congrats WWE because you really pulled one over one me. If this is real, wow. I just don't even know what to say.
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Old 06-12-2010, 01:00 PM   #273
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Shut up BillyBonez.
Hahaha dont be jellous that I didnt get tricked by this angle like yo did!
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Old 06-12-2010, 01:01 PM   #274
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Carlito spat in peoples faces all the time.
And where is he now?
JK!

His spitting was part of his gimmick. Not quite the same thing.
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Old 06-12-2010, 01:02 PM   #275
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Yeah, it's not in the corporate releases section either, which has all guys released in 2010 so far listed, which could add to more conspiracy/work theories.
Where is that page? I can find the WWE Corporate page, but the news releases page only mentions Carlito (who was let go because of Wellness, so it'd make sense to be there while the other releases aren't)
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Old 06-12-2010, 01:02 PM   #276
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Carlito spat in peoples faces all the time.
I can recall him doing it once in the last several years and that was on Slater on NXT. Certainly can't recall him doing it since it went PG and he went all phone-it-in.
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Old 06-12-2010, 01:04 PM   #277
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And where is he now?
JK!

His spitting was part of his gimmick. Not quite the same thing.
If they have a guy whos gimmick is spitting in people's faces, why would spitting be a sackable offense?
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Old 06-12-2010, 01:06 PM   #278
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I can recall him doing it once in the last several years and that was on Slater on NXT. Certainly can't recall him doing it since it went PG and he went all phone-it-in.
He did it to Masters a couple of times during their "feud". I think the lack of Carlito spitting in people's faces was more down to the fact he was a complete jobber who rarely got the upper hand rather than because the product went PG.
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Old 06-12-2010, 01:08 PM   #279
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I feel like I don't even know up from down right now.
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