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Old 12-09-2011, 12:02 AM   #241
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Couldn't resist a rape joke
 
Old 12-09-2011, 12:03 AM   #242
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I don't like how the Lakers feel that they are entitled to every amazing player on the planet.
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Couldn't resist a rape joke
You had to VICIOUSLY stick one in there, didnt you?

Get it?

VICIOUSLY stick it one there?

Rape?


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Old 12-09-2011, 12:03 AM   #244
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lol can't believe the Pistons re-signed Prince for 4 years.
 
Old 12-09-2011, 12:05 AM   #246
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I don't like how the Lakers feel that they are entitled to every amazing player on the planet.
I wonder if the deal had gone through had the Angels NOT signed Albert Pujols to that mega-deal today (srs).

Some will be like "What does THAT have to do with THIS?" But it MAY have had an effect on the owners from other teams going like "Whoa, Los Angeles can't keep getting stronger".
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:09 AM   #247
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lol

It really has nothing to do with that. Do you realize that the NBA has probably changed forever with what happened tonight?

I know you're a Laker hater, so your judgment is clouded, but David Stern has set a dangerous precedent with what he did.

What happened should outrage any NBA fan. You just don't see that because it's the Lakers and it's easier to be like "lol Lakers" than to understand what really happened.
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:11 AM   #248
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chris Paul should go to Utah for Memo Okur. I'd feel right about that deal.
 
Old 12-09-2011, 12:12 AM   #249
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Wait, wasn't this Miami?

I don't get it.

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Old 12-09-2011, 12:13 AM   #250
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If you think Laker fans are the only ones that are outraged at what happened, then you really don't know what you're talking about.
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After all of the shady stuff in the Lakers past, I can't help but smile at this. After the ref scandals and after the shady Gasol deal, all eyes are on the Lakers in the off-season. If you're going to run shady business practices, all eyes are going to be on your franchise. Now a team that is owned by the NBA gives up their best player for scraps to one of the biggest markets in the league? It looks awful. And you can try to justify what NO would've gotten out of the deal all you want, but the bottom line is that you don't progress in the league with a slew of mediocre players in exchange for the best point guard in the NBA. It all just looks ridiculous. If they're going to trade Paul, they should have the long term in mind and go for either young top guys or high draft picks. Kevin Martin and Lamar Odom are not going to bring you to a championship. Hornets would have a better chance at a championship with the current Hornets team with Chris Paul than they would with everything they would've gotten out of that trade.

It all just doesn't seem right. It's not so much what the Lakers gave up, it's what the Hornets got out of the deal.
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:31 AM   #252
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That's all well and good, but the Commissioner nixing a deal just because he was pressured by owners is complete bullshit and the backlash from all of this seems to have been quick and almost universal. There's no denying that
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Well, the team is owned by the NBA and the owners... are part of the NBA. I'm not saying that it's a standard practice or that it should be done all the time, but this is quite the unique situation. If the Hornets weren't owned by the NBA, this wouldn't even be an issue. Then again, if the Hornets weren't owned by the NBA, this trade probably wouldn't have gone down in the first place. It's slippery, but it all just looks awful from a PR standpoint and David Stern can't afford to have any more money or trade scandals, especially when the Lakers are involved.
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:43 AM   #254
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If the Hornets weren't owned by the NBA then this deal would have gone down for sure.

Stern wants to sell the team, so he wants Paul on the team to attract a buyer.

He would rather hurry up and sell the team, than let the Hornets actually get SOMETHING for Paul right now, than in 66 games when his contract is up and they get NOTHING for Paul.
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I don't blame the owner's for this, they have every reason to be pissy about a trade that would make LA even more ridiculous. But given that it's the league's team, I think it's stupid that Stern let the trade get as far as it did without at least consulting it's "owners" first. Unacceptable on his part, and now he was to clean up the mess. If it costs him his job I wouldn't be surprised
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Cleveland Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert called the New Orleans Hornets’ proposed trade of Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers a “travesty,” and urged NBA commissioner David Stern to put the deal to vote of the league’s 29 owners in an email obtained by Yahoo! Sports. Gilbert sent the email to Stern, deputy commissioner Adam Silver and a handful of Gilbert’s ownership peers on Thursday.

The following is the email in its entirety:

Commissioner,

It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.

This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.

I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).

I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.

I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.

When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

Dan G.


An NBA spokesman said owners “didn’t kill the deal,” instead citing “basketball reasons,” for why the league office blocked the trade.
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He did not send that.
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These whiney ass owner's should just worry about making their teams better instead of asking the Commissioner to bail them out.
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That did not go to his boss. No way.
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Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown = OK. Pau Gasol + Lamar Odom for CP3 = NOT OK!
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If the Hornets weren't owned by the NBA then this deal would have gone down for sure.

Stern wants to sell the team, so he wants Paul on the team to attract a buyer.

He would rather hurry up and sell the team, than let the Hornets actually get SOMETHING for Paul right now, than in 66 games when his contract is up and they get NOTHING for Paul.
Why would Chris Paul attract a buyer when they know he's going to leave in the next year or so? He's almost outright said so. Having Chris Paul on the team at the time of the sale means jack shit really.
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lol NBA is so fucked. Better hurry up and just re-lockout
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The trade basically painted the Hornets into mediocrity for quite some time while giving the Lakers a huge superstar and saving them quite a bit of cap money. I can see why a lot of owners would have a problem with this deal.
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But...but...the trade wasn't canned because of the owners, it was BASKETBALL REASONS
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I don't know if Dan Gilbert really was the person who basically went whining to the Commissioner about this deal, or if he wrote that email...but if he DID, I applaud LeBron for leaving Cleveland, because Gilbert is a disgrace.
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Why would Chris Paul attract a buyer when they know he's going to leave in the next year or so? He's almost outright said so. Having Chris Paul on the team at the time of the sale means jack shit really.
Because if he stays on the team there's at least a chance of him staying?

I know he's said he wants out, but I just can't see a team without Paul costing the same as a team with Paul, regardless of his contract situation.
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Stern shouldn't have nixed the deal when it got as far as it did, but I don't really understand why the Hornets would want to do that deal anyway. I mean they were getting back no young players at all and taking on $15M in the process. I don't see how that helps the team for the future. One thing for sure is that the team obviously needs to be sold though.
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Looks like the Player's Union are gonna "fight" the NBA over this blocked deal.
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I don't know if Dan Gilbert really was the person who basically went whining to the Commissioner about this deal, or if he wrote that email...but if he DID, I applaud LeBron for leaving Cleveland, because Gilbert is a disgrace.
I'm sure Gilbert wrote the letter. He's still hurting over Lebron leaving. Don't people remember the letter he wrote after that whole fiasco?
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At least Stern was smart enough to pull this move after ratifying the new CBA. Would have been chaos if this happened before it was official.
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By Chris Broussard
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Dwight Howard is preparing to ask the Orlando Magic to trade him to the New Jersey Nets, according to sources close to the situation.


Howard's representatives have told the Nets that they are his preferred destination.


Howard has yet to tell the Magic that he will not re-sign with them after this season, but the sources said he will within the next few days, perhaps as early as Friday. There is also a chance that Howard will not attend the opening of training camp Friday, according to one of the sources.


As ESPN.com reported last week, the Nets are ready to offer the Magic a package built around center Brook Lopez and two first-round draft picks, New Jersey's own and one the Nets acquired from Houston in a previous trade, according to sources.


If necessary, New Jersey is also willing to take back Hedo Turkoglu and the three years, $34 million remaining on his deal.


The appeal of the Nets for Howard is the chance to play with all-star point guard Deron Williams and excitement over the Nets' move into a brand new arena in Brooklyn for the start of the 2012-13 season.


Williams and Howard spoke several times about teaming up during the lockout.


If Howard is indeed committed to joining the Nets, he can all but force the Magic to make the trade by declaring his intentions not to sign a long-term contract with any other team, thereby assuring that those clubs make low-ball offers to Orlando.


Howard's decision to go to the Nets would put a monkey wrench in the Los Angeles Lakers' plan to team Howard with Kobe Bryant by trading Andrew Bynum for the Magic center.


The Nets are continuing to pursue free agent center Nene just in case their plan to acquire Howard falls through. That would seem to indicate that they expect a deal for Howard to begin coming together fairly soon.
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:10 AM   #272
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LOL, perfect timing by Dwight to ask to get traded to a specific team. Exactly what the owners and Stern were crying about with the Paul thing.
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:26 AM   #273
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Dwight Howard should be commended for wanting to go to the Nets. Who in their right mind wants to go to the fucking Nets?
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Stern shouldn't have nixed the deal when it got as far as it did, but I don't really understand why the Hornets would want to do that deal anyway. I mean they were getting back no young players at all and taking on $15M in the process. I don't see how that helps the team for the future. One thing for sure is that the team obviously needs to be sold though.
Are you kidding me? They would have been a playoff team easily. The 'future' was Chris Paul/West, and it didnt work out well...maybe they wanted to try the present?

Fact of the matter is, Stern is stupid for killing this trade because:
1) this late in the trade, all of a sudden he becomes untouchable? Lets just put every player and team involved in an awkward position after the intention has been made.
2) Chris Paul is LEAVING, be it in 66 games, or now...and youre gonna stop the Hornets from getting anything in return? Not sure that 'future' looks any better by keeping him.


Fuck Gilbert. Guarantee if James said 'im out this bitch' to them before he became a FA in Cleveland, they'd have traded him for an entire team's roster if it came up.
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Old 12-09-2011, 01:32 AM   #275
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im not understanding the thought of the Hornets getting the shit end of this deal. The Rockets would have by basically giving up Scola, K.Mart, and others for one player in Pau Gasol.

Look at those pieces the Hornets were getting and tell me they wouldnt have been a solid team. Look at them now and tell me how they're a better team.
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Seriously, NO wins from this trade. And yes, I do believe that letter from the Cavs' Owner. D12 just asked to be dealt to NJ... I'm sure Stern will allow that one.. Fucking jew.
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Dwight Howard should be commended for wanting to go to the Nets. Who in their right mind wants to go to the fucking Nets?
When they move to Brooklyn in 2012..I imagine it'll make them a big deal.
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I honestly think the deal was nixed because Stern & Co. were afraid that D12 was next. Now that D12 is going to NJ, what are the odds that the CP3 deal "miraculously" goes thru?
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It's possible, but I think it'll stay canceled. Stern looks stupid enough, things would get worse for him if he backs off
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