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Old 06-28-2013, 08:32 PM   #241
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Probably the part I disliked the most about this movie was Superman vs. the giant tentacles of that one robot. During that whole action sequence I was pretty much like "Ugggghhhhh I don't want to see this. When is he gonna fight Zod?! "
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:40 PM   #242
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:37 PM   #243
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:28 PM   #244
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I'd have given him a showdown with Faora but I guess her rival was the soldier dude.

A random thought; if he survived the kamikazi attack and got into the phantom zone I'm fairly certain he and Faora are screwing like bunnies right now.
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:46 PM   #245
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Also, I found it funny (more amusing than funny) that they had the dude who played Emil Hamilton on Smallville in the same scene with the Emil Hamilton from the movie.
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Old 06-29-2013, 02:20 AM   #247
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Really, though?
Yeah. Superman and a whole bunch of Kryptonians beating the shit out of each other... what would you expect? I realize "violence" and "destruction" aren't really words you'd associate with Superman, but this is really what the francise needed to stand out from the other five films.

I mean, they even "went there" in Superman II, but with today's technology and CGI they were able to do more than smash a few windows.

Unless of course, you were expecting them to have a huge brawl out in an open field or something?
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Old 06-29-2013, 02:18 PM   #248
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Of course I always wanted a super-brawl to look like Neo vs Smith in Matrix 3, I just thought you meant a Superman movie needed that in general. I have no problem with the destruction, and when Doomsday or Darkseid makes their way into the MoS movie-verse, there will probably be more falling buildings than what we seen.
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Old 06-29-2013, 05:21 PM   #249
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Nah, a Superman movie, or a superhero movie in general, doesn't need that. But with super-beings as powerful as Kryptonians, well, this is Supe's 6th big screen endeavor, I was hoping it was time to really fuck shit up.
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Old 06-29-2013, 11:54 PM   #250
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Thought it was pretty good. Still probably only my third or fourth favorite summer movie this year. Cahill was very good and Michael Shannon was tremendous.

I felt like the movie ground to a screeching halt every time Costner came on screen. The twister scene in particular was painful. Just really badly written and Costner's "No, superhuman son who's fast enough to not even be noticed, stay there and let me, your adopted father, rescue the family dog from this oncoming tornado" gesture was one of the dumbest scenes in the whole film.

The Krypton stuff, on the other hand, was great. I've never really felt like it was a real place in previous incarnations, and Snyder knocked this out of the park. There was a real sense of impending dread, and Crowe and Shannon were very very good here.

Clark killing Zod SHOULD have felt like a bigger moment. And if he hadn't been directly responsible for about 40,000 other deaths over the previous 2.5 hours, I might have felt it more.

Overall, I'd say I enjoyed it, but it's still a far cry from any of Nolan's Batman or most of Marvel Studios' offerings. Which I guess is a little like saying "Lawrence of Arabia" was quite good, but it's no "Casablanca."

7/10
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:55 AM   #251
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Old 07-06-2013, 11:31 PM   #253
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Because I couldn't just let it go, I had to go and write a follow-up rant in regards to the fallout from MoS:

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Old 07-07-2013, 12:02 AM   #254
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Movie was meh.

-The entire city is shown in ruins with whole skyscrapers coming down in battle. There should have been tens if not hundreds of thousands of deaths but everyone is like "SUPERMAN SAVED THE DAY! WHATEVS!!!"

-Loopy is spot on with the Tornado scene.

-Why were there no natural births on Krypton anymore? Why was Kal-El the only one?

-That open/empty pod in the ship? Yah, we can revisit it in a sequel but not even a hint or other reference to it?

-In one scene Lois Lane chugs a glass of whisky/bourbon and in the next her line is "What if I have to tinkle?" Is that a reference to something from the comics? It was jarring to hear "tinkle" as odd as that sounds.

-The family of four that Zod is trying to kill at the end....are they ok n stuff?
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Old 07-07-2013, 04:18 PM   #255
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Earth is not New Krypton, so I'd reason Superman did save the day.

Other details makes me think you simply weren't interested enough to care about them.
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Old 07-07-2013, 05:50 PM   #256
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Right, so just keep those details to yourself then because I must be some meathead who didn't read every bloody bit of literature going into the movie and wasn't genuinely interested in getting answers to my questions in order to better understand what I just saw. No way could I have possibly overlooked a detail that prevented me from understanding one of the concepts I pointed out. I simply didn't care and wasn't interested to begin with. Yeah.
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:08 PM   #257
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We're in accord then.
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:10 PM   #258
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All you have to do is answer my questions and I would have been like "oh ok" but instead you decide to act all superior because this is "your thing." What a douche.
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:25 PM   #259
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lol Let it go. Best not to be a drama queen about it.
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Yawn.

Still can't answer any of my questions. Probably were legit gripes that can't be explained away. Movie was Meh.
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:55 PM   #261
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I'm not convinced having them answered would do anything to improve the movie for you, so ask somebody else who would be. Later.
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Thats the whole reason I asked them in the first place. Its not your place to determine the ramifications if your answers will shine a light on this movie for me or not. They might though.

You should be trying to show a foreigner the way and not blowing him off when he asks for directions.
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I'm more receptive when the tourist doesn't kick off his inquiry with, "This town is kinda shit, where's the beaches at?"
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I'm guessing you loved the movie. I can be convinced but found my original post gripes to overwhelm the positives of the film at times.
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Old 07-07-2013, 07:52 PM   #266
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I'm guessing you loved the movie.
Your guess is correct, I dug the movie. Any gripes I have are pretty different from the other stuff on the net.

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I can be convinced but found my original post gripes to overwhelm the positives of the film at times.
That's cool, doesn't seem to be an issue.
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:03 PM   #267
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:28 PM   #268
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:29 PM   #269
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:35 PM   #270
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:51 PM   #271
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:13 AM   #272
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:59 AM   #273
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I liked it a lot. Especial the big fight scene
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:44 AM   #274
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Very good movie. I liked it.
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Old 07-14-2013, 12:40 AM   #275
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Dare I say it but I think I enjoyed Man of Steel more than Dark Knight Rises.
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:05 PM   #276
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Movie was meh.

-The entire city is shown in ruins with whole skyscrapers coming down in battle. There should have been tens if not hundreds of thousands of deaths but everyone is like "SUPERMAN SAVED THE DAY! WHATEVS!!!"
I think this is the result of both Snyder and Goyer not having an exact idea of what they wanted to do with the story, so, instead of seeing Superman save people and build a reputation before taking on Zod, we jump into destruction. I agree with you on this.

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-Loopy is spot on with the Tornado scene.
Disagree. Felt this was one of the better, more emotional scenes in the movie. But I can see people finding it cheesy. Hated that Clark essentially disowned his parents prior to the death happening. So stupid.

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-Why were there no natural births on Krypton anymore? Why was Kal-El the only one?
Don't remember if it was explained, but I'd reckon the leaders of Krypton felt genetically creating soldiers and scientist predisposed was best in continually developing their society. Also, this was supposed to make Clark an outcast on both Krypton and Earth, but neither was really expanded on, outside of some flashback scenes. It was a good idea that was never delved into.

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-That open/empty pod in the ship? Yah, we can revisit it in a sequel but not even a hint or other reference to it?
I don't even know if they will expand on it in a sequel. Feel like it was just Snyder being cheeky with fans with zero intent on actually doing naything about it in the next film.

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-In one scene Lois Lane chugs a glass of whisky/bourbon and in the next her line is "What if I have to tinkle?" Is that a reference to something from the comics? It was jarring to hear "tinkle" as odd as that sounds.
Just ineffective writing?

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-The family of four that Zod is trying to kill at the end....are they ok n stuff?
Who cares, Frank? The point of the scene was clearly to show how conflicted Clark was in killing Zod, a man he barely knew, who was the second to last man from his home planet, a planet he had zero emotional attachment to, and spent all of five minutes learning about in the Spark Notes program on the vessel by digital dad, Jor-El. Get your head out your ass, Frank, and be a fanboy, accepting this as what it is!!!

But yeah, I agree you with a lot of what you said. Meh.
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:07 PM   #277
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(This is how you respond, Kylax. Take notes from Damian Rey)

You are right in that its a comic book movie, and that I just need to suspend disbelief maybe a little more than I normally would. Thing is, I let lots of stuff go in the Batman Trilogy, but felt better about ignoring some of it. (Joker has thousands of pounds of explosives hidden and strategically set up in the hospital?)


Things just felt very uneven in this one. I also hate loose ends not being tied up or at the very least referenced after taking center stage for a time which is why the outcome of the family bothered me. We were supposed to care if they live or die, then they just dropped it like someone accidentally cut a shot or piece of dialogue.


Thanks for explaining things and providing a different spin on things for me.
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That last line about accepting it was supposed to be taken as a joke. Nolan's films spent a lot of time developing characters, making them and their actions believable, even with something like Joker's bombing of the hospital, and developed everything within the story to somehow work and become a cohesive aspect of the film without being too over the top.

Man of Steel didn't do any of that at all. A member on Flixter wrote a review I liked that stated they felt like they were watching the best scenes out of three seperate films thrown into one. That's a pretty solid sum of what we got with Man of Steel.

Tons of small gems, spread across 2.5 hours of convoluted inconsistency.
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:06 PM   #279
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No need to take notes, I'm quite happy with how I replied to you.
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Frank had/has legitimate issues with the movie, and wanted some constructive discussion about it. You're acting like a pre teen girl defending Twilight movies. You're better than that, Kalyx. Far better.
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