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Old 09-03-2023, 08:50 AM   #1
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I love Punk. I really do. But lunging at your boss (and by the sounds of it, physically threatening him in an ensuing tirade) is not the best way to keep your job.

By the way Dave "Totally Unbiased I Have No Horses In This Race" Meltzer tells it, it sounds like Punk wanted out and was trying to find ways to get fired. If there's a hint of truth to that, trying to fight Tony was one way to go about it.


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Old 09-03-2023, 08:58 AM   #2
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AEW handed Punk everything on a silver platter in the last run. Basically his own show where from all indications he had the authority to ban people from and mold to his own creative vision. And he couldn’t make it 3 months without throwing it away.

Whether or not you think Jack Perry deliberately goaded him on by making a comment during a pre-show match, Punk could’ve just shut the fuck up and ignored what was, at worst, petty bullshit and continued coasting his way to a very well-paid retirement run.

You don’t have to like AEW or Tony Khan but anyone taking the sympathy route for Punk to try to justify the hatred more is hilarious. Punk deserves no sympathy here. This was complete and total self-immolation.
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Old 09-03-2023, 09:14 AM   #3
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AEW handed Punk everything on a silver platter in the last run. Basically his own show where from all indications he had the authority to ban people from and mold to his own creative vision. And he couldn’t make it 3 months without throwing it away.

Whether or not you think Jack Perry deliberately goaded him on by making a comment during a pre-show match, Punk could’ve just shut the fuck up and ignored what was, at worst, petty bullshit and continued coasting his way to a very well-paid retirement run.

You don’t have to like AEW or Tony Khan but anyone taking the sympathy route for Punk to try to justify the hatred more is hilarious. Punk deserves no sympathy here. This was complete and total self-immolation.
Punk was a troubled child who never grew out of his rebellious phase. In part due to the validation he received for his unprofessional and unhinged behavior over the years. I remember watching his "Best in the World" documentary and cringing so often. He's only grown bitter and insecure with age. It's just sad at this point.
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Old 09-03-2023, 09:12 AM   #4
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Punk reminds me a lot of Don Draper without the alcohol. If you've seen Mad Men and watched Don's triumphs and downfalls I feel like you'd get where I'm coming from. He also sort of looks like Jon Hamm.
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I see the Jon Hamm thing, but I’m not familiar with the character’s specifics.
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When do we find out who was on the disciplinary committee? Got to have the head of talent relations Christopher Daniels no? Maybe veteran Chris Jericho? Michael Nakazawa? Best referee in the world Aubrey Edwards? Brandon Cutler?
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When do we find out who was on the disciplinary committee? Got to have the head of talent relations Christopher Daniels no? Maybe veteran Chris Jericho? Michael Nakazawa? Best referee in the world Aubrey Edwards? Brandon Cutler?
Last time they launched an investigation they didn’t even interview the civilian witness in the room. Saying there’s an investigation is just a way to hide responsibility for what they want to do.
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I think Punk is just too wrestling for them. He wants to make it better and sees it as a craft, they want to do whatever they do it and it be called good enough.
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Plus, Don and Punk come from similarly broken homes. Hopefully, Punk gets another chance to create magic.
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I think it's time for Punk to give MMA another shot. Maybe work his way up to the UFC this time around.
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I think it's time for Punk to give MMA another shot. Maybe work his way up to the UFC this time around.
A PPV boxing match with Jake Paul sounds lovely.
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I’m pretty sure he’ll be able to get a job basically anywhere he wants. If he doesn’t end up back in WWE, I think it’ll be because he’s either done with wrestling or wants to pick his spots elsewhere.
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I’m pretty sure he’ll be able to get a job basically anywhere he wants. If he doesn’t end up back in WWE, I think it’ll be because he’s either done with wrestling or wants to pick his spots elsewhere.
It's safe to suggest that nobody at WWE HQ is salivating to have Punk back
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Can’t wait for the CM Punk book.
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Hmm... not exactly.

Had an issue at work a little bit ago where a group of staff members were deliberating excluding/bullying one of their peers. Eventually this lead to a rather heated confrontation on the floor with the staff member who had been allegedly bullied flipping out and causing a commotion on the floor.

The investigation showed that the group would often make fun of the staff member's weight, would move/hide their belongings, had a chat on work computers that said obscene things about him and deliberately made his life difficult. Ultimately, two were terminated and the others received final warnings.
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Hmm... not exactly.

Had an issue at work a little bit ago where a group of staff members were deliberating excluding/bullying one of their peers. Eventually this lead to a rather heated confrontation on the floor with the staff member who had been allegedly bullied flipping out and causing a commotion on the floor.

The investigation showed that the group would often make fun of the staff member's weight, would move/hide their belongings, had a chat on work computers that said obscene things about him and deliberately made his life difficult. Ultimately, two were terminated and the others received final warnings.
JFC where do you work and how old are these people? (Be vague about where you work, but what type of business/company is it?)
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JFC where do you work and how old are these people? (Be vague about where you work, but what type of business/company is it?)
Office environment and the people were mid 20's to mid 30's.
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Office environment and the people were mid 20's to mid 30's.
Oi vey. Insane.
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Hmm... not exactly.

Had an issue at work a little bit ago where a group of staff members were deliberating excluding/bullying one of their peers. Eventually this lead to a rather heated confrontation on the floor with the staff member who had been allegedly bullied flipping out and causing a commotion on the floor.

The investigation showed that the group would often make fun of the staff member's weight, would move/hide their belongings, had a chat on work computers that said obscene things about him and deliberately made his life difficult. Ultimately, two were terminated and the others received final warnings.
Holy projection, Batman!
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Holy projection, Batman!
Guy, Ben is being respectful and presenting his side of the argument and offering perspective from his experience. Why say shit like this?
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Guy, Ben is being respectful and presenting his side of the argument and offering perspective from his experience. Why say shit like this?
Isn't the false equivalence not apparent?
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Isn't the false equivalence not apparent?
Nah, this one was more in response to the statement that someone who goes to work and is involved in fights every time should be fired. Sometimes things arent as they appear.

Not necessarily comparing CM Punk/Elite. I'm sure people who have had/heard of similar things playing out in their own professions.
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Hmm... not exactly.

Had an issue at work a little bit ago where a group of staff members were deliberating excluding/bullying one of their peers. Eventually this lead to a rather heated confrontation on the floor with the staff member who had been allegedly bullied flipping out and causing a commotion on the floor.

The investigation showed that the group would often make fun of the staff member's weight, would move/hide their belongings, had a chat on work computers that said obscene things about him and deliberately made his life difficult. Ultimately, two were terminated and the others received final warnings.
Yeah, anyone who has seen bullying or harassment in the workplace knows it’s not as simple as firing the target to rid the problem. You’re still left with the ugly instigators, and guess what? They’ll find a new target.
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Yeah, anyone who has seen bullying or harassment in the workplace knows it’s not as simple as firing the target to rid the problem. You’re still left with the ugly instigators, and guess what? They’ll find a new target.
All anyone has to do is look back at around the time after the media scrum venting where that one article came out where just about any of the folks that went on the record with "I was wary about CM Punk because I had heard about his reputation... but then I actually talked to the guy and it wasn't as bad as all that, and he even gave me some sound career advice" or some complimentary variations thereof all ended up getting fucked with in some kind of way. Or the more recent thing where Okada said something to the effect of "I'd tell you about what I think about the guy, but The Bucks are my friends." Why should it matter if you want to say something nice about someone if that would make people who are supposedly your friends act different towards you?
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This feels like one of those “If it isn’t a work, it should have been pitched as one” scenarios. I know it’s damn near impossible to keep secrets in wrestling but we need shit like this.
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Wrestling is at its best when it doesn’t resemble a normal workplace environment.
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Agreed. It's gotta be a little fuckin wild.
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I do hope that Collision doesn’t become Dynamite 2 and I say this as someone who enjoys Dynamite a lot more often than not.

Appreciated both shows having their own unique “vibe”, presentation, different in-ring focuses etc.
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I hope Jungle Boy dives through glass just to show how cool he is and cuts himself Goldberg style.
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Jungle Boy vs the Invisible Man vs Yoshihiko in a three-way "real glass" match.
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He's going to bomb the arena?
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I believe a pipe will be involved. Would be sick if in a stunning turn of events, it's a crack pipe and not a pipe bomb. And the explosion results from him free-basing the crack like Richard Pryor.
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He should show up on RAW, throw the AEW "Real World Championship" in the trash and then cut an "aewbad" promo
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Followed by a "fedbad" promo. Then he runs away.
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Would be funny if AEW doesn't re-fire Ace Steel and he ends up being yet another guy on Punk's shitlist when he refuses to resign out of solidarity.
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