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Old 08-23-2004, 01:33 AM   #241
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Why would somebody drop Corey Dillon

ALSO Why would you take Springs just to drop him later on
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Old 08-23-2004, 01:35 AM   #242
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Stupidity, plain and simple.
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Old 08-23-2004, 05:16 AM   #243
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Just completed this trade in one of my other fantasy leagues...

GIVING: Jamal Lewis and Quincy Morgan

RECIEVING: Thomas Jones and Andre Johnson

Beautiful

Also, who is La Raza in our league? I've proposed a trade to them.
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Old 08-23-2004, 05:30 AM   #244
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LOL what, that is awful

Chicago's still gonna suck, so their running game won't happen because they'll always be playing catch-up, therefore Thomas Jones is meh. Andre Johnson is good, granted, but LOL @ giving up Lewis for him
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Old 08-23-2004, 06:29 AM   #245
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Thomas Jones will be an animal this year and Chicago will be improved.

Also, Brian Billick said Jamal Lewis will not be playing after week 8 (When his trial starts). Therefore, I'm giving him up now while people are still willing to give alot for him.
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Old 08-23-2004, 07:38 AM   #246
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I dunno, I wouldn't put a whole lot of faith into Jones. I'm not saying he's gonna be bad at all, but I don't think he's gonna be a top 15 back or anything like that is all.

Even if he doesn't play after week 8, 8 weeks is a large chunk of the fantasy season, and you bet he's gonna put up huge numbers while he's there. I guess it's just personal preference, but I would've stuck with Jamal.
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Old 08-23-2004, 03:30 PM   #247
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Lewis could come back after week 8 though, depending how long it takes. He just said he wouldn't play during the trail. I am not sure how long this type of trial would take tho
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In the league I play with my friends from school some kid tried trading me Jamal Lewis cause I have shit for RB's. He wanted Tom Brady or something, but I'm running game with Favre and Brady because we start two QB's. They are my money in that league and I'll be dammed if I trade for a guy who I know is already going to miss some games.
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I dunno, I wouldn't put a whole lot of faith into Jones. I'm not saying he's gonna be bad at all, but I don't think he's gonna be a top 15 back or anything like that is all.

Even if he doesn't play after week 8, 8 weeks is a large chunk of the fantasy season, and you bet he's gonna put up huge numbers while he's there. I guess it's just personal preference, but I would've stuck with Jamal.
I do have a feeling about Jones that he could be a top 10 back. Maybe even 1,400 yds or so. He looked great late last year w/ Tampa.

Granted it's still a bit of a risk to trade him for Jamal but getting Andre Johnson with him and only having to give up Quincy Morgan (Who I would have dropped anyway) makes it alot easier.
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Old 08-23-2004, 05:01 PM   #250
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Lewis could come back after week 8 though, depending how long it takes. He just said he wouldn't play during the trail. I am not sure how long this type of trial would take tho
I can't imagine a trial like this taking less than 9 weeks.
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Old 08-23-2004, 05:06 PM   #251
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Billick is full of shit, Jamal Lewis will still be playing after week 8.
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Old 08-23-2004, 05:59 PM   #252
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Yeah don't get me wrong, great move getting rid of Morgan and picking up Johnson. I just really don't think getting rid of Lewis was worth it. 'Cause like I said, even if his trial lasts until the end of the season, you still get 8 (well 7 if you count the bye) great fantasy weeks out of him, which is a large portion of the fantasy season. And there's still the possibility of him playing after too.
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Old 08-23-2004, 08:27 PM   #253
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Yeah don't get me wrong, great move getting rid of Morgan and picking up Johnson. I just really don't think getting rid of Lewis was worth it. 'Cause like I said, even if his trial lasts until the end of the season, you still get 8 (well 7 if you count the bye) great fantasy weeks out of him, which is a large portion of the fantasy season. And there's still the possibility of him playing after too.
That's where personal opinion comes in. I don't think Jones' numbers will be THAT far off of Lewis'. Enough atleast where the WR trade makes up for any difference.
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That doesn't mean the trial won't last a while though.
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Old 08-23-2004, 09:57 PM   #256
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charges will be dismissed on him in the first 3 days. From what I've heard and read they don't have anything on him anyways. it's the group they have stuff on. he'll maybe miss 1 week tops.
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Why would somebody drop Corey Dillon

ALSO Why would you take Springs just to drop him later on
Meh, I dunno - he wasn't in my plans...
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Old 08-23-2004, 10:49 PM   #258
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On that Lewis trade you should had tried to pick up a 3rd player, I bet you could have done it
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Old 08-24-2004, 12:47 AM   #259
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Lewis is a solid fantasy player, but he has too many people on his dick because of his breakout year last year.

Checking out his statistics:

In 2000 and 2002 he posted 1300 yard seasons with 6 TD's rushing and 1 TD receiving in '02. 2001 is not listed, I'm assuming he was injured, correct me if I'm wrong.

Last year was an absolutely great season for him, any back even. 2000+ yards and 14 total TD's. I doubt he comes close to touching either of those numbers again in '04.

Edit: Not to mention he put 8 balls on the ground and lost 6 last year. If he has a season similar to that of '00 and '02 then that many fumbles subtracts a touchdown or two he has, especially if it is in the same game. It is a menial difference of course, but every point matters in fantasy.
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Speaking of trading big time rb's. What did u guys think of what I got for LT ? I probably coulda gotten a lil more, but i dunno i was desperate and mad for missing the draft. The trade was

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Depends, Edge is good but he needs to put up numbers. Jenkins is an unproven rookie. Defensive players, unless standout playmakers are pretty much the same as far as throwing up points goes. Guess it all depends how Edge and Jenkins play. At least with LT you knew you had something barring any injuries.
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Looks like a good trade to me. You lost LT, but you got a good #1 RB and Jenkins will be good this year. Archuleta is a great fantasy player too, so I'd say it was a good trade overall. Depends on what your team was like before, your weaknesses and all
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Lewis is a solid fantasy player, but he has too many people on his dick because of his breakout year last year.

Checking out his statistics:

In 2000 and 2002 he posted 1300 yard seasons with 6 TD's rushing and 1 TD receiving in '02. 2001 is not listed, I'm assuming he was injured, correct me if I'm wrong.

Last year was an absolutely great season for him, any back even. 2000+ yards and 14 total TD's. I doubt he comes close to touching either of those numbers again in '04.

Edit: Not to mention he put 8 balls on the ground and lost 6 last year. If he has a season similar to that of '00 and '02 then that many fumbles subtracts a touchdown or two he has, especially if it is in the same game. It is a menial difference of course, but every point matters in fantasy.
What are you talking about. He's 24, so a breakout year is huge. How the hell can you say he's just going to stop putting up huge numbers? Baltimore has no intentions of becoming a passing team anytime soon, so Lewis is gonna be huge for a long time.
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I never said he is going to stop putting up numbers. I said that trade isn't so bad because he isn't going to put up numbers like last year again. Judging from previous seasons he'll probably put anywhere from 1300-1500 and 6-8 TD's. Thomas Jones can do that.
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People have been saying the exact same thing about Priest Holmes for like 3 years now, and look what happened there.
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:28 AM   #266
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True, point taken. The Chiefs aren't as one dimensional as the Ravens. The Chiefs have a solid QB and Tony G. The Ravens do have Todd Heap but they don't have a stable QB situation yet. Playing against the Ravens you can count on Jamal being the offense. In KC Tony G will take LB's or a SS out of the box and allow Priest more room to run. Not to mention the Chief's have a great fucking FB.
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I still cant believe somebody actually just straight out dropped Corey Dillon

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Yeah really I traded him for Culpepper though, so I suppose I can't be too upset...
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Picked up Fargas from the Raiders..hopefully he has a break out year
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I've been hearing that he might tke Wheatley's #1 spot so who nowsssss
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Yea I have been hearing that aswell, thats why I got him

I will take pretty much any decent starters I can get seeing how its a 20 team league

But I dont understand why this year there is a starting QB still on FA and last year when I REALLY needed a starting QB there was none to be found
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Old 08-24-2004, 11:40 PM   #272
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Oakland is wierd this year. Fargas, Wheatley, Zeroue...I looked at Zack Crockett too and he had 7 TD's last year. They use him for short yardage.

Kind of a toss up until a clear cut starter is announced.
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Old 08-25-2004, 12:35 AM   #273
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Crockett will be useless this year. Zeroue is at worst going to be their third-down back, so he'll be getting the short yardage runs and all. Wheatley/Fargas is what people want to pay attention to
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If I recall Fargas is pretty small, I would be surprised if Wheatley doesn't win the starting job.
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Old 08-25-2004, 12:53 AM   #275
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Well technically Wheatley IS the starter right now. Or at least, the job is his to lose for now.
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I don't follow Oakland too closely but I think Wheatley gives them the best chance at RB.
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Anyone interested in Leftwich or Eli? I need a good WR and/or RB. I may even give up Pennington if the right deal comes along. Someone make me an offer.
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Fargas isnt THAT small though, he is pretty powerful back

Wheatly has been given tons of chances to take over the starting role and he was unable too in the past.
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Wheatley is aging, let us not forget.
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Dammit. Dave's like, not commissioner of that one league, and I want mine and Ant's trade vetoed

How does the league voting thing work? I voted against it, but I have no idea how many people need to vote against it for it to actually be overturned
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