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Old 09-21-2004, 01:14 AM   #1
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Randy Orton has two things that seperate him from most wrestlers on Raw.

1)He is good/near great on the mic

2)He has a presence in the ring and has pretty good wrestling skills.

Only other mid level to main event Wrestlers on Raw that have these two attributes:

HHH,Jericho,Shawn Micheals,Christian.

Flair used to but he is to old now
Orton is only good on the mic when he's playing a bit role backing up HHH or when HHH can carry the bulk of the promo, only reason I marginally cared about HHH vs Orton is because HHH carried the promos. When they gave Orton a chance to fly solo in promos he floundered and bored me to tears. His wrestling skills pale to HHH, he was much better in tag matches with HHH to bail him out then when he was on his own.
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Old 09-21-2004, 01:02 AM   #2
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Orton's theme sucks except for the intro riff, they should have used his post SS promo song.
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Maybe Randy is faking as part of an evolution swerve and will return as a member of Evolution.
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Old 09-21-2004, 01:08 AM   #6
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I hope Evolution can carry this match. They'll need to considering who their facing.
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See, Orton is so pathetic it took merely a clothesline to take him out. I'm so glad they got that belt off him.
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See, Orton is so pathetic it took merely a clothesline to take him out. I'm so glad they got that belt off him.
That clothesline took out Jericho not once but twice as well
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Woah Woah Woah. Orton is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT AT ALL to Blame for this shit. Orton was over as hell as a heel. The WWE FUCKED THAT UP. Not his Fault. He was having great match after great match after great match. He restored credibility to that IC Title again after it was in the shitter and proved he was something special. Saying Trips carried Orton is ridiculous. Maybe in the begginning, but Definately not towards the middle and end of his Evolution run
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Woah Woah Woah. Orton is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT AT ALL to Blame for this shit. Orton was over as hell as a heel. The WWE FUCKED THAT UP. Not his Fault. He was having great match after great match after great match. He restored credibility to that IC Title again after it was in the shitter and proved he was something special. Saying Trips carried Orton is ridiculous. Maybe in the begginning, but Definately not towards the middle and end of his Evolution run

LC come on, Orton was over because he was associated with the greatest wrestler ever, Triple H. Heel, face whateverm the on;y reason people cared about Orton is because he was standing side by side to a true legend in Triple H. It's too bad Orton decided to turn away from HHH his career just has totally sucked since, which is understandable because HHH makes those he's assoicated with that Damn Good.
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What's going to be funny is that Orton is gonna come back just in time to RKO HHH
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What's going to be funny is that Orton is gonna come back just in time to RKO HHH

God I hope not. HHH jobbing to a guy who gets hurt my a clothesline, the World title will be meaningless, what should happen is Randy comes back hits the RKO only to have HHH kick out at 1 get up and pedigree orton for the 3.
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What? Orton decided? NO. The booking team decided. And I can't agree that the only reason people cared about Orton was because of Trips. Again, give credit where credit is due. If I remember correctly, HHH wasn't even in the Foley feud. That was all Orton/Foley. Orton was the one leading Evolution at that time. While HHH was doing his shit with the Retart, Orton was giving great segments with Edge. That was way better then Trips and the Retart IMO. People cheered Orton because they love heels that win all the time and act cocky. Simple as that. Yeah, HHH had some to do with it, but defianately not everything
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What? Orton decided? NO. The booking team decided. And I can't agree that the only reason people cared about Orton was because of Trips. Again, give credit where credit is due. If I remember correctly, HHH wasn't even in the Foley feud. That was all Orton/Foley. Orton was the one leading Evolution at that time. While HHH was doing his shit with the Retart, Orton was giving great segments with Edge. That was way better then Trips and the Retart IMO. People cheered Orton because they love heels that win all the time and act cocky. Simple as that. Yeah, HHH had some to do with it, but defianately not everything
Every solo feud Orton was terribly boring and did nothing for the business, I just kept hoping he'd stick to what he does best supporting HHH. HHH makes anyone look good, look at Eugene, you think anyone else could make him look as good as HHH did? I don't think so, same with Orton. Orton didn't leave because of booking he left because he was an arrogant fool who didn't realise he was only over because he was associated to the most over wrestler in the WWE, HHH
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HHH makes anyone look good, look at Eugene, you think anyone else could make him look as good as HHH did? I don't think so, same with Orton. Orton didn't leave because of booking he left because he was an arrogant fool who didn't realise he was only over because he was associated to the most over wrestler in the WWE, HHH
I thought you were serious because you did have a reasonable point, but then this kind of gave it away.
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I thought you were serious because you did have a reasonable point, but then this kind of gave it away.
well I figured I had to go overboard at some point given that no one was catching on.

LOL it's why you'll notice I didn't take shots at Benoit, cause it would have given me away. What can I say I'm a great Devil's Advocate
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That was a nice RKO
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That was ok I guess, terrible RKO though. At least HHH didn't get pinned.
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That was ok I guess, terrible RKO though. At least HHH didn't get pinned.
He did it with 1 arm. Thats amazing
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It looked terrible one arm or not.
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Lara, stop with the sarcasm

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Lara, stop with the sarcasm

And LC, are you going along with Lara or actually being serious?

It wasn't sarcasm as much as me being terribly bored and deciding to argue from the vantage point of an evolution HHH mark , you should see me on MSN sometimes go into my Hardcore Christian Preacher Spiel.
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Flair fell funny after that nice RKO. He just plopped down after it since it was low to the ground.

Anyways, the show this week was alright. More storylines ended and others began but thank the gods the Diva Search is over! Jericho is IC champ and Lita is not preggers... the wrestling world is right again.
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WTF? Someone needs to inform me when they are using sarcasm. I can't tell on a god dam message board.

I was being serious BTW.
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Old 09-21-2004, 01:25 AM   #32
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WTF? Someone needs to inform me when they are using sarcasm. I can't tell on a god dam message board.

I was being serious BTW.
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Old 09-21-2004, 01:40 AM   #33
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They booked Orton right this week, we'll see if they keep doing it for the next 6 months. I found it funny that Benoit is still clearly more over than any of the faces on RAW, but alas that ship has sailed.

Kane-Lita was dumb. I hate the Owen Hart sadness voice for these angles that nobody cares about. I know they are trying to sell an angle, but pick something that will draw to pull that crap off with. Anyway, Ive got tons of merch ideas for young Gene Snitski, like: "Snitski 3:16 says I just killed your baby!" Or "Snitski Abortion Clinic", or "Snitski Funeral Homes: As seen in the funeral of Gene Snitski".

HBK-Jerihco was only alright, good match, but they suffer from high standards. I actually liked the run in DQ finish, because it seemed to get some legit heat on Christian.

Christy wins, hopefully she puts aside some of that $250K because I hear its really hard and expensive to get human shit out of a gym bag full of clothes. Ah what am I saying, I'm sure she'll be treated with respect and dignity.... Still think it was rigged, they just changed who was going to win based on the crowd reactions Carmella was getting. No matter, I cant see her lasting more than 3 months.

Bout time they start doing something with Hurricane. Of course hopefully they'r something doesn't consist of a huge program with Maven or something like that.

I dont know what they did in the States, but up here there was no mention of Smackdown this week in the body of the show, which is really odd considering its a huge show and ratings have been down lately. I'm sure they ran ads, but you'd think they would have given Cole and Tazz a small spot on the show to plug SD, but hey why promote another show? That might take away from the Lita and Kane drama or a Divas Search recap.
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Old 09-22-2004, 05:29 AM   #34
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I dont know what they did in the States, but up here there was no mention of Smackdown this week in the body of the show, which is really odd considering its a huge show and ratings have been down lately. I'm sure they ran ads, but you'd think they would have given Cole and Tazz a small spot on the show to plug SD, but hey why promote another show? That might take away from the Lita and Kane drama or a Divas Search recap.
We got a brief mention. The SmackDown Rebound started up, then got interrrupted by "breaking news" from the hospital room, and they never went back to SD.
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Old 09-21-2004, 01:24 AM   #35
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Randy Orton has never even wrestled before.
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Old 09-21-2004, 01:24 AM   #36
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The ending of that ME totaly ruined the show for me. Last thing the WWE needs is to be building up Orton as a threat, everyone knows it'll go nowhere. Evolution should have won this match easily and dominated, that's what needs to happen, HHH needs to be made to look completely unbeatable, in fact Evoltuion shouldn't job at all. This is terrible booking.
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Old 09-21-2004, 01:25 AM   #37
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that was the best acting lita has ever done, she looked like she was wacked out on drugs.
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Old 09-21-2004, 01:25 AM   #38
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Lara is 100% serious in her posts.

Nobody would carry on with dead sarcasm that long.
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Old 09-21-2004, 01:27 AM   #39
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Old 09-21-2004, 01:28 AM   #40
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I was just waiting for someone to call me on it. I mean shit when have you ever seen me defend Triple H or anything
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