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Old 12-12-2004, 10:55 PM   #241
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Why was Show using an F5?

Dunno, didn't really look all that good, kinda slow looking but a lot more height to it.
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Old 12-12-2004, 10:55 PM   #242
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Old 12-12-2004, 10:58 PM   #243
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Well of course Show would get more height on it, he's taller than Lesnar.

So, it's back to Heindenrape versus Taker. Woohoo! NOT!
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Old 12-12-2004, 10:58 PM   #244
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HOWEVER KooS. I will agree Cena should not be champion until at least Mania 21, just to give it more of a build up. He still would draw more than JBL though.
But I was talking about the WWE, currently. Things may change 3 months from now, but we don't know for sure.

Yet as of right now, giving Cena the title would be the same as them blowing their load on Orton's face turn way too soon. It would have an adverse affect and in the long run would not be as successful if they waited. JBL is a good heel to have as champion, because they can build his character up to the point to where whoever beats him, would be major.
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Old 12-12-2004, 10:59 PM   #245
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I'd be interested to see how long before Angle gets another title run.
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Old 12-12-2004, 11:01 PM   #246
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lol Big Show using an F5

Lesnar is definetly coming back than. Maybe a Lesnar/Show match at Wrestlemania 21? It's a good idea. Cause everytime I see Lesnar F5 Big Show I marked out
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Old 12-12-2004, 11:04 PM   #247
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Big Show did an F5? Was that today, i didn't watch the 3 on 1 match

but i have to say, for once, Smackdown has produced a nice solid payperview, it was great... not super omfg kewl!!!!!!!!!!!!, but great.

RVD and Rey vs Rene and Kenzo was alright, would have been a lot better if Kenzo and Rene were holding the titles, i dont' understand why they'd switch at smackdown instead of armageddon, but still a good match.

Kurt angle vs Santa Claus... had me laughing for about 2 seconds, it would have been better if the Santa was austin , pretty funny segment, the payperview coulda done without it tho

Bashams vs Holly and Hass.. yeah they called this a "bonus match" i call it a snoozefest, worst match of the night

Cena vs Jesus... (bare with me cuz i'm speaking as a pure 100% mark).. this match was fucking great, CENA beat the living hell out of Jesus, Jesus only got one real hit on cena through the entire match! Pure complete squash, and it was GGGREEEEAAAT, Cena is fucking god, he is gonna carry this business to greatness, havent marked out like that in a while

Jackie vs Dawn, yeah obvious swerve of Haas really having an affair, but there was another swerve when he called Dawn a slut instead of asking her to marry him, that was hilarious and unexpected, something WWE hasn't been recently

Spike Dudley vs Funaki... another sold match, it was really good, funaki's awesome in the ring, best of all he WON, *mark out*

The WWE title match was very entertaining, a really good match, real fun to watch, but the ending sucked, wtf is Heidenreich doing, Undertaker already beat him clean I don't understand why they're restarting this dumb fued. Other than that, match was AWESOME, just wish JBL would let go of the fucking belt!

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Old 12-12-2004, 11:04 PM   #248
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2)Taunting or making fun of Lesnar
Doubt that second one, Brock and Big Show are actually friends.
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Old 12-12-2004, 11:09 PM   #249
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JBL winning = Smackdown can fuck off for now

Funaki winning is cool and all, but knowing the WWE he'll just drop it on the next Smackdown.
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didn't seem like I missed much with this garbage of a PPV
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Old 12-12-2004, 11:25 PM   #251
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awww come on..it didn't sound that bad.
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Old 12-12-2004, 11:30 PM   #252
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awww come on..it didn't sound that bad.

You wanna try watching it, i was laying on my sofa half asleep.
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Old 12-12-2004, 11:32 PM   #253
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Maybe the F-5 was more of a tribute or a "Please come back.", kind of gesture then (if Lesnar is not already under contract)?

I thought the PPV was overall really good. Rene Dupree & Kenzo vs. Myserio & RVD was a fantastic match, IMO. It could have been better, but I think given another tag team to feud with, RVD-619 and Rene & Kenzo can have a great tag team feud.

I agree with Gohan3k, switching the titles on SmackDown! was meaningless, and would have made much better sense at the PPV. I can't remember the last time the WWE Tag Team Championship did actually get swapped on PPV.

Kurt Angle vs. Santa Claus could have really great, if Santa turned out to kick ass and then have the medals to some kid (maybe a sick kid or something). I don't know if Angle would be willing to give his medal away, but it would be an awesome gesture if he gave it to some kid for Christmas. Maybe Santa could have been a developemental wrestler who was called up. Him winning and giving the medal to charity would have been the ultimate rub.

The Dixie Dogfight was good, but mainly because Mizanin held his own, and came so close to winning in the fans' eyes. I don't think Puder did himself any favours by emphasising Ultimate Fighting during his after match promo.

The Bashams vs. Holly & Haas was interesting. The two faces/tweeners could be great in a tag team, and it will be interesting to see how they get along. It seems Holly is the "tutor" to Haas. I know this may not be in good taste, and I don't mean it disrespectfully, but it could have been impactful if Hardcore pointed to Charlie's wristbands with "RUSS" written on them, and asked Charlie what Russ would think of Charlie losing matches because of some women distracting him.

I will be interested to see what happens with Holly & Haas now. Hardcore has a relationship with Jackie, as he trained her (I think), and Haas has just broken her heart. I can see Holly bringing Jackie in as their valet now, just to piss Charlie off. I am looking forward to see how Dawn Marie will react to Charlie, and to see if they play a "schemeing" ex's gimmick. I hate it when they have Divas have these little feuds, some of them actually major (like Dawn "killing" Torrie's dad), then a few weeks later they are friends and having photoshoots together. I hope there is a bit more fluency with this angle. Maybe The Dudleys will come back as Dawn's avengers? Hardcore Holly & Charlie Haas vs. The Dudleys at the Royal Rumble, No Way Out or WrestleMania 21?

I don't like the way Cena squashed Jesus, as I like Aaron Aguilera, and I don't think he and Carlito have gotten a fair go in recent months (with injuries and all). It would have been better if they had the commentators focus on how Jesus had a torn groin, and how he expected to come in here for a clean and easy face to face fight, but since Cena's attacked him from behind, Jesus has been helpless. Carlito & Jesus could be good in the tag division, and I think it needs repair, so maybe that's where they'll go when they're ready to return.

Just a random thought, does anyone like the idea of each wrestler getting their own plate for the WWE United States Championship? Maybe a different coloured strap as well? It would be nice to see Kidman with a "Shooting Star" themed belt that goes with his ring jacket. Then along the sides of the belt you can have all your previous incarnations of the championship plates as sort of a reminder of the history this wrestler now carries.

Funaki as champ=ratings. Not literally, but still. I actually laughed at his little joke. "Armageddon your Cruiserweight Championship!". There's something about that little guy that's......cute. Was anyone else laughing when Funaki climbed to the top rope just before hitting his double stomp tree of woe type move on Spike? Jimmy Cordares was putting on this harsh voice telling Funaki "No!". I would have enjoyed the experience more if Funaki had almost squashed Spike. Not like your regular squash, but basically have him be too much for Spike to handle. Have all the spots that happened in the match and more, but with Funaki really pulling out some big moves and making us realise he's not a joke. I wouldn't have had that rest hold either. Keep it short and sweet with Funaki winning cleanly with The Rising Sun.

The main event was surprisingly good, and I loved the interaction between The Cabinet and JBL before the match. I would have marked out if The Cabinet came down to ringside to congradulate JBL, but then out comes Theodore R. Long and tells us that he said The Cabinet weren't to be at ringside with JBL tonight. Period. Then he strips JBL of the Championship and announces either a Triple Threat Match or a tournament on to be held (or commence) on this week's SmackDown!.

I think we'll see JBL vs. The Big Show at the Rumble, which will be extremely entertaining, IMO.
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Old 12-12-2004, 11:34 PM   #254
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Didn't Eddie Guerrero steal Kurt's medals and auction them off?
I know they weren't the real ones but...how nieve does the wwe think we are?
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Old 12-12-2004, 11:37 PM   #255
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Old 12-13-2004, 12:14 AM   #256
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yes I suppose.
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Old 12-13-2004, 01:26 AM   #257
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Old 12-13-2004, 04:57 AM   #258
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I dunno, for the first-time ever since I started watching wrestling, I felt that indestructibility that The Undertaker supposedly had in the 90's. It kinda felt special to me. It would have been more impactful if JBL had pinned Taker, though.
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Old 12-13-2004, 06:38 AM   #259
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How about some screen caps of Big Show hitting the F-5 on Jindrak?
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Old 12-13-2004, 06:46 AM   #260
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Did anyone else notice the way Tazz tried to cover up Michael Cole's blatnant teases of Brock Lesnar. I know they probably meant nothing, but MC was going "An F-5!?!?!!?!?!?!? What the Hell?" and then Tazz goes something like "Well, yeah. Big Show just hit it out of nowhere.".

It probably sounded fairly normal there, but the way it came off on television it seemed Tazz was trying to make it sound like the fireman's carry into a DDT was just move, while Michael Cole was making it out to be Brock Lesnar's move, if you catch my drift?
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Old 12-13-2004, 06:49 AM   #261
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Back to cruiserweight action. I think Funaki needs new tights. I like the blue & white themed ones, but I have seen him stick to that theme for so long, I can't image him in anything else. Hopefully we see Funaki develope as WWE Cruiserweight Champion. Maybe even establish an ego.

I personally think Kurt Angle vs. Santa Claus and/or The Bashams vs. Holly & Haas could have been put on Heat in sacrifice for Chavo Guerrero & Paul London vs. Billy Kidman & Akio. Maybe add Shannon Moore to the faces and Nunzio to the heels to get a nice 6-man tag going.
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Old 12-13-2004, 07:00 AM   #262
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Old 12-13-2004, 07:23 AM   #263
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Old 12-13-2004, 07:30 AM   #264
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meh the PPV sounded aight at the most.
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I think J.B.L. is being built up like Hollywood Hulk Hogan, needs a gang to help him win, cheats anyway to keep his title... probably end up losing the championship at WM21 to somebody that the fans love.
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Old 12-13-2004, 09:18 AM   #266
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that's how I think it should go down. I mean, you've kept the Title on him this long. Might as well have him lose it a Mania.
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Old 12-13-2004, 09:22 AM   #267
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I dunno, for the first-time ever since I started watching wrestling, I felt that indestructibility that The Undertaker supposedly had in the 90's. It kinda felt special to me. It would have been more impactful if JBL had pinned Taker, though.
No-selling as part of his deadman gimmick is one thing. But come on, he no sold a shot with the belt followed by two frog splashes. Thats just ridiculous in my opinion. And it made eddie look pretty weak.
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Old 12-13-2004, 02:07 PM   #268
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No-selling as part of his deadman gimmick is one thing. But come on, he no sold a shot with the belt followed by two frog splashes. Thats just ridiculous in my opinion. And it made eddie look pretty weak.
Exactly. It all but makes a joke out of one of your top guys. Also, from what I hear Eddie (as well as everyone else) was acting constantly afraid of Undertaker, making him look more like nothing.

On a show where you have so few top guys you can't go and make jokes out of them.
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Old 12-13-2004, 02:09 PM   #269
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GOOD:
- JBL finally picks up a credible win... even though it was shady, it was against three faces and he made himself look good.
- Lesnar tease.
BAD:
- JBL is still champ
- Cena looks like the Undertaker... he should challenge JBL; there's no one else on his level right now...

Anyway, whatever. I totally forgot about the PPV to be honest...
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Old 12-13-2004, 02:53 PM   #270
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so who is going to beat JBL for the title at Wrestlemania 21? My pick is Taker
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Old 12-13-2004, 02:53 PM   #271
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If Miz held his own, i'm impressed, I fully expected Puder to murder him.
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