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Old 01-17-2005, 11:26 PM   #241
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Those of you complaining about the show tonight...... whatever. You're entitled to your opinion, but I thought it was great. Maybe it was the crowd. A hot crowd can really make a show, and they're always pumped in Canada.
Well on the level of what I would call a "well executed show", I would say that this was nearly one of the worst written shows I've seen, being placed together so poorly. However, I feel it was also saved because of the audence and the good wrestling (well at least 2 matches).
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Old 01-17-2005, 11:31 PM   #242
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Now don't lose hope by saying never, just think how good the APA Bradshaw fans feel now that their time has come.
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Old 01-17-2005, 11:36 PM   #243
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I'm pretty sure Snitsky said "You all right?" and than proceeded to smile and lie there with his eyes open when they were supposed to be unconscious and hurt.

Anyways... I'm pissed off at them jobbing Christian. It's his hometown! Give him a win for once!

In other news... Jericho was GOLD. First the Highlight Reel and then a clean win over Bentoit? GOLD.

The Jericho/Bentoit match was pretty good too. I didn't want the commercial break there.

Viscera just looks plain funny. It was correct to have Batista sell him because Viscera is basically a big man who always loses to make people look impressive. If you don't show that he has power than no one will care.

Other than Jericho/Bentoit it was a pretty bad show.

Oh yeah, also screw TSN for censoring Kane's chokeslam on Trish.
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Old 01-17-2005, 11:45 PM   #244
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DISCUSSION - Could Christian ever become a success as a FACE?

DISCUSSION - Could Christian ever become a success as a FACE?



Does anyone here think the Christian could be successful as a face?

-His current music seems somewhat "face-ish" IMO.
-He seems to have 'hit a wall' of sorts as a heel (although he's still entertaining IMO).
-The 'CLB' and "Let's go Christian" chants could be decent.
-Christian has good enough mic skills.


Hell - if the WWE could get the fans to cheer Regal, then I guess anything is possible.

The only problem I see with Christian, is that the fans might 'love to hate' him a little too much (i.e. sort of like Angle).
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Old 01-17-2005, 11:52 PM   #245
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Canadian fans rule. Canadian wrestlers rule. Canada rules. God, the shows just pick up here. Although leave it to two huge turds to fuck up the ending of the show.
Amen to that.

Good ol' Canada.

I'm glad to be back home in the greatest country in the world.


All in all, I actually liked the show. It wasn't their best, but it wasn't that bad either (IMO).

Good god us Canadian fans rule.


I'm a bit disappointed that Benoit jobbed cleanly to Jericho. It's great for Jericho, but are the WWE ever gonna push him? If not - then this match makes Benoit look bad more than it makes Jericho look good.


Nonetheless - I was entertained.

Interesting fan reactions all night.

The fans made the show fun for me.
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:02 AM   #246
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The fans made the show fun for me.
And for me, watching it at home in the states. I soooo wanna move to Canada now. You think they'd welcome me Heyman?
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:15 AM   #247
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You think they'd welcome me Heyman?

As long as you show hatred towards HBK (while accepting Chris Jericho and Bret Hart as gods), you will be loved up here. .
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:17 AM   #248
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As long as you show hatred towards HBK (while accepting Chris Jericho and Bret Hart as gods), you will be loved up here. .
Who's more over up there - Jericho or Benoit?
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:18 AM   #249
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That was an interesting RAW. And love them or hate them, the Canadian crowds usually put on a show. And for all the Canadians on the board who like Muhammed because he usually tells the truth, well he spoke the truth again tonight, and this time you got the brunt of it. And HBK rules.

Trish cemented her heel-ness. She was a bitch for the USAholes line. So Kane ruled with that chokeslam. Jericho was the man again.

Fairly interesting comments by HHH for not wanting Batista to be selfish. Damn Batista should've killed him right there. The spinebuster was impressive on Viscera, but Vis got too much offense in.

Kane/Snitsky was decent. And the table spot would've been better if Snitsky was yakking. But good RAW.
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:20 AM   #250
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LOL. Canadians love the heels.





In all seriousness, WWE should do more international events. Having more fans in attendance just creates a completely different atmosphere.

The show tonight was "average", but the fans made it awesome.
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:21 AM   #251
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Jericho by a mile
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:23 AM   #252
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Jericho by a mile
Any particular reason?
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:25 AM   #253
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I'd say due to his excellent mic work and charisma

If you ever went to a WWE show in Canada you would notice that half the crowd has Y2J memorbillia
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:27 AM   #254
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I wanna move to Canada. I'm so serious right now.
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:28 AM   #255
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:31 AM   #256
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Ya man we rule. About to watch Rock/Hogan form WM X8
I always noticed the fans were into the product more, which makes the shows better. But tonight it finally hit me.... it's not the product, it's the fans (hence my new thread). GOD BLESS CANADA!
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:47 AM   #257
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I just got back from the show and what a show it was.

Match results that you didn't see

Dark match
"The Masterpiece"Chris Masters squashed a local Toronto guy with a torture rack turned into a neck breaker

Randy Orton,Benoit,Jericho defeated HHH,Batista,Edge when Randy Orton reversed a HHH pedigree into an R-K-O.

Atmosphere was great

Biggest pops
Jericho/Benoit
Christian
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Batista

Biggest jeers
HBK
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:49 AM   #258
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Hasan really got that big of heat? eh? I bet it's only because he interrupted Jericho
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:50 AM   #259
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Man, just watched Kane killing Trish and I must say... Trish has better mic skills than 75% of the roster.
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:55 AM   #260
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Old 01-18-2005, 01:36 AM   #261
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Splaya, I didn't lead the Wave but I did take part in it, that was hilarious. Some funny chants included "Lets go Chris" (when Benoit and Jericho wrestled) and "Who are you?" to some jobber Indian guy on heat.

One guy had a sign in the front row that said "HHH Fears Divorce" LMAO. Security came and took it away like 5 mins later They actually took away quite a few signs, those bastards. Lots of the crowd cheered Hassan like crazy at first but then we started booing him after he made fun of Canada. Christian had a huge pop, as well as Batista and HHH. Orton was getting lots of boos, although the teenage girls cheering him probably balanced it out. Trish looked hot as hell

Overall it was an okay show I guess, but the crowd in Toronto always makes it fun and I will continue to go every time
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Old 01-18-2005, 01:38 AM   #262
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Old 01-18-2005, 02:01 AM   #263
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Hey during the la res match, or the highlight reel, I forget, but anyone see the Steph fears Heyman sign?
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Old 01-18-2005, 02:24 AM   #264
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Yeah, that sign is the truth.
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Old 01-18-2005, 05:26 AM   #265
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Jericho by a mile



I would say both are amazingly over, almost equally so. No way is it Jericho by a mile.
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Old 01-18-2005, 08:25 AM   #266
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Yeah I was there for hogan and Rock it was great.
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Old 01-18-2005, 08:32 AM   #267
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I loved that "HHH fears divorce" poster. I figured they would take it away. And the wave was cool.

But overall I would say Raw was decent.
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Old 01-18-2005, 10:28 AM   #268
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One guy had a sign in the front row that said "HHH Fears Divorce" LMAO. Security came and took it away like 5 mins later
That same guy then had a "Security took my sign" sign.
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I had a pretty good time. Should have seen Kanes head after the chokeslam spot...pretty bloody. The "secret match" was pretty fun as well. It was fun doing the wave as well.
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Old 01-18-2005, 01:59 PM   #270
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I would say both are amazingly over, almost equally so. No way is it Jericho by a mile.

To be honest, I do agree with this.

During the Benoit/Jericho match, the fans CLEARLY did not want to side with one or the other.


However - Jericho got a MUCH bigger face pop when his music hit (both times). Surprisingly, Benoit's reaction wasn't all that big (atleast that's how it came across on TV).
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Old 01-18-2005, 04:08 PM   #271
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I would say both are amazingly over, almost equally so. No way is it Jericho by a mile.
Benoit is more over than Jericho in Edmonton (because he's the hometown hero)

But as far as everywhere else in Canada is concerned, Jericho is WAY more over. Just look at the crowd? the Y2J chants out number the BENOIT chants

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Old 01-18-2005, 08:49 PM   #272
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Old 01-19-2005, 12:26 AM   #273
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Benoit is more over than Jericho in Edmonton (because he's the hometown hero)

But as far as everywhere else in Canada is concerned, Jericho is WAY more over. Just look at the crowd? the Y2J chants out number the BENOIT chants
They were both getting some decent pops.

And the fans were even chanting "Let's go Chris" for awhile.
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:30 PM   #274
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I don't see all the fuss about being chokeslammed through a bunch of tables like that. It wasn't exactly high, and I bet it was a pretty soft landing. I bet half the guys in the arena could have done that...
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