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Old 11-16-2006, 08:31 AM   #241
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Yeah the big rumour is Thomas to Toronto, 2 year deal, I missed what the reported $$ was.
not too sure how i feel about this. i hate my fav teams taking on injury prone players. I think this could go either way.
 
Old 11-16-2006, 10:09 AM   #242
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"The Rockies have reportedly inquired about Carl Pavano, telling the Yankees they'd be willing to cover about half of the $23 million he's owed over the next two years."

It said we weren't interested. I guess we don't really have enough starters but Christ I'll take anything for Pavano right about now.
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:14 AM   #243
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not too sure how i feel about this. i hate my fav teams taking on injury prone players. I think this could go either way.
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:14 AM   #244
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Its a fucking shame yknow, I remember when we signed Pavano I was pretty damn excited, now It just seems like every time I hear his name its another disappointment
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:15 AM   #245
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Apparantly they're saying the possibility of a Pavano deal could be revisited in the spring.
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:33 AM   #246
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I assume that will depend upon what they see during ST?
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Old 11-16-2006, 03:47 PM   #248
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i still am trying to find out why the jays need thomas. They have bullpen issues, need a 2nd baseman or shortstop, and another starter
 
Old 11-16-2006, 04:06 PM   #249
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I was just going to ask about Manny.

How about a Manny Ramirez for Brad Lidge deal?

Yah that'd work. Just what the Red Sox need. I can see it now. 9th inning in the division series. Brad Lidge shakes off the catcher 4 times. Waiting for the catcher to give him th " Brad Lidge playoff meltdown " pitching sign. I'd watch.
 
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Also pretty happy to have Mussina back, he's filled that Mr Dependable role left by Pettitte pretty damn well
He has? He's so inconsistant and the guy notoriously disapears in the playoffs.
 
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lol yah. I'm pretty sure this is just Manny being Manny again.
 
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Actually, i dont even think you'd have to worry about Manny being in that deal. Just let the Astros give Lidge to the Red Sox for free. That would do the job.
 
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He has? He's so inconsistant and the guy notoriously disapears in the playoffs.
7-8, 3.40, 142 K in 135 IP doesn't sound too bad for playoff numbers to me.

Moose is good for 15 wins, 180 Ks and an ERA under 4 usually. I don't know what else you could want from a 38 year old, especially considering the other options on the market.

I'll admit that 2004 and 2005 weren't his best seasons but they were far from terrible (look at his K/BB numbers, and his other numbers weren't horrible), plus he bounced back big time this year and was in Cy Young talks for a portion of the season. He wasn't at peak condition in 2004 or 2005 anyway. He came back in 2006 on top of his game and put together a great season.
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Old 11-16-2006, 04:18 PM   #256
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I dont claim to watch every Yankee game, but it seems to me, Mussina dissapears in the big ones. Maybe i'm wrong.
 
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Yeah, as much as I would like to get rid of Pavano it really isn't possible with the rotation we have right now which is basically Mussina and Wang. I guess it depends on what happens this offseason.
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Nah, he's had a couple of bad games but he's had a lot of good ones too. He seems to have trouble with the Angels in the postseason, just like the rest of the Yankees. He has pitched pretty well against everyone else (including Boston).
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Old 11-16-2006, 04:39 PM   #259
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wtf how the hell is Mussina inconsistent?
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Cubs get:
Neal Cotts (LHP)

White Sox get:
David Aardsma (RHP)
Carlos Vazquez (LHP)

This could pay off for the Cubs, Cotts is a year removed from posting a sub 2.00 ERA and moving to the NL should help.

The Tigers also resigned Sean Casey to a one year deal. Good move.
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The last time the Sox traded with the Cubs... we got Jon Garland.

This time... not so much.
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Anyone got any recommendations for a good ball park to check out this summer/spend a weekend in the same city? Been to Wrigley and the Trop in Tampa so far. Probably would have to be a Red Sox oppopent since my dad wants to "keep the tradition" we have going now. I am hoping Seattle if its works out, but my dad isn't too keen on the long ass flight due to knee/back problems so I dunno who else.


NYC is out of the question too since I could just drive there if I really wanted to go to a game that badly.
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Seattle would probably be a stadium that I would love to go to. I've never been there, but it just seems like a really sweet city.

I have only heard great things about Pittsburgh, so if you are playing them in interleague or something. St. Louis would also be another great place if the Sox play there in interleague. In terms of American League, you have already been to Chicago, but I have heard some great things about the White Sox ballpark. Cleveland has always seemed like a sweet place too.

Kansas City was fun when I went, but I don't know if it would be worth going all the way from Boston to see the Sox there. The cool thing about Kansas City is that there is nobody there so you can get really close to the players and stuff. Texas might be a fun place to go too.
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i still am trying to find out why the jays need thomas. They have bullpen issues, need a 2nd baseman or shortstop, and another starter
By ading Thomas they add 100 plus rbis and 30 homers, plus a high on base percentage to the DH spot. This lets them pull in get a defensive SS/2b that wont be relied on to produce as much at the plate. So instead of going for a JulioLugo, they can maybe get by wit hRuss Adams
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I think Thomas is a great pickup for Toronto if he stays healthy. Imagine what he can do Wells and that lineup.
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The Jays have enough offence. They desparatly need a 2b or shortstop that can hit a bit(whichever position they don't play Hill at).

Dude, Adams was friggen AWFUL last year. He has no arm, can't hit and can't run.
 
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Athletics hire Geren as manager

By JANIE McCAULEY, AP Sports Writer
November 16, 2006

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OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) -- Bob Geren will be promoted from bench coach to manager of the Oakland Athletics, ending a monthlong search for Ken Macha's replacement.

Two A's players told The Associated Press that Geren called them Thursday after he was hired. The team scheduled a news conference for Friday afternoon to formally introduce Geren as their new manager. He fills the final managerial vacancy in the major leagues this offseason, one month after the A's fired Macha.

General manager Billy Beane went with the most experience and the familiar face, his longtime friend and former high school baseball opponent in San Diego.

A's closer Huston Street said he heard Thursday from Geren, who told the pitcher he got the job.

"I'm really excited," said Street, the 2005 AL Rookie of the Year. "He's already called me and we've spoken a little bit. I spent my first full year in the big leagues with him in the bullpen. He was the first professional coach I got a feel for and got to understand. What he brings is someone dedicated to the team and dedicated to his players. He's got a good feel for the team and that's a real positive for all of us."

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Of the three finalists, a list that also included Colorado Rockies bench coach Jamie Quirk and ESPN baseball analyst and former Texas Rangers pitching coach Orel Hershiser, only Geren had any managerial experience. He was the first to interview for the job on Oct. 30.

Beane and assistant GM David Forst both were traveling Thursday night and not immediately available for comment. Messages left for Geren went unreturned.

Geren, a catcher for five seasons with the New York Yankees and San Diego Padres, spent the 2006 season as bench coach in Oakland after three seasons as bullpen coach in his first stint on a major league coaching staff.

"I think it helped him quite a bit," Beane said Tuesday in his first and only public comments about the search. "But until you sit in that chair, the only preparation is really doing it."

Geren joined the A's organization in 1999 as manager of Class-A Modesto, then spent the next three seasons managing at Triple-A Sacramento. He also has managed in the Dominican Winter League and managed during three of his five seasons in the Red Sox organization from 1994-98. He has a 452-390 record in seven seasons as a minor league manager.

A's center fielder Mark Kotsay also received a call from Geren on Thursday with the news -- exactly the kind of communication players appreciate, Kotsay said.

"Bob seems to be a good communicator and he probably reached out to everybody on the club and let them know he's the manager of the Oakland A's and is looking forward to managing us," Kotsay said in a phone interview. "Obviously he's very familiar with the team. He's familiar with the staff. His experience over the last couple of years as bullpen coach and bench coach will help him be a great manager for our ballclub."

The 45-year-old Geren, the best man in Beane's second wedding, had to at least have some confidence in his status with the organization: He bought a house in the Bay Area this year.

Neither Beane nor Geren wanted this to be about their friendship but rather strictly about business, though they believe that having an understanding and a trust certainly won't hurt.

Geren said his credentials should speak to his ability. Beane has long considered Geren managing material -- interviewing him last year when the club briefly parted ways with Macha before re-signing him about a week later.

Geren thought working as bench coach for a season benefited him because he could see what worked and what things he might have done differently in the top job.

"There were a lot of potential candidates and a lot of people deserving of the job," Street said. "Billy's going to do what's best for the organization. I really wasn't worried about who the manager would be. We trust Billy and his decision making. I think he made the right move.

"Bob is going to bring lot of positives to the table and a lot of baseball knowledge. He's been in the game for a long time and managed at a lot of levels. He's been in some big games as a manager."

Macha was fired after four seasons on Oct. 16, two days after Oakland was swept by the wild-card Detroit Tigers in the AL championship series. The A's won a playoff series for the first time since 1990, ending a string of four straight first-round exits from 2000-03.

Quirk played the final three of his 18 major league seasons for Oakland, and Beane had said any of the candidates would have been great hires for the small-market A's.

Beane took his time in the process and watched three candidates leave for managerial jobs elsewhere: Longtime A's third-base coach Ron Washington went to Texas, Angels pitching coach Bud Black became skipper in San Diego, and Mets third-base coach Manny Acta was hired this week as manager of the Washington Nationals.

Geren batted .233 in 307 major league games.


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Geren batted .233 in 307 major league games.
Hey with those numbers maybe he can show the offense some POWER HITTING YEAAAAAAAAH
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There is talk about talking about instant replay in baseball.
Oh dear.
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Rumour has it that both Soriano and Lee (Carlos) have been given offers from the Astros.
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I heard driving home from work that Frank Thomas has officially signed with the Jays.
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I like Thomas to the jays.


If lee or Soriano go to houston, they will really contend again this year.
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I wonder if that means Clemens will pitch again next year.
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Baseball is the one sport (maybe soccer) that should NEVER use instant replay.
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"Mets signed infielder Damion Easley, who had been with the Diamondbacks, to a one-year, $850,000 contract."

Looks like they might go with a Valentin/Easley platoon rather than signing Adam Kennedy, as I predicted.
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I just read a rumor on SI.com that the Yankees might consider using Scott Proctor as a starter. I'm not so sure how I feel about that. He's got a good fastball and enough pitches to be a starter (2 seam, 4 seam, slider, curve, change) but I just don't know if I can see him being a good starter.

Looking at his minor league stats, the last time he was a starting pitcher was in 2002 at AA.

7-9, 3.51, 131 K's in 133 IP, 1.47 WHIP.

Not bad, but not great. That was 4 years ago though and he has improved a lot since then (especially cutting down on walks).

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