Halo 3 - Page 7

**Fignuts** · 02-05-2009, 09:52 AM

Nah, I agree it's overrated. But that doesn't mean it's not awesome. Just that it's not the second coming of Jeebus Christ, like some people make it out to be.

**Blitz** · 02-05-2009, 10:30 AM

Is this a vastly different gameplay style than COD? I've heard it is.

**Requiem** · 02-05-2009, 11:14 AM

Halo 3 is mad overrated. Halo 1 was not overrated. It was well received for a reason. Halo 2 gets an unfair bad rep, but Halo 3 is majorly overrated.

And yes it is vastly different from COD.

It is still fun, but it's not that great of a game compared to its predecessors.

G · 02-05-2009, 11:41 AM

I haven't played any of the games, but I read one of the books, The Fall of Reach. I really liked it. It ended by them seeing a halo shaped planet or something, so I'm guessing that's what the games are about?

**Requiem** · 02-05-2009, 11:45 AM

Yeah. There are multiple 'planets' in the shape of a halo, with the planet's surface on the inside of the rings. That's where most of the fighting takes place in the game. That's the basis of it.

The game shines in multiplayer though. I don't think the majority of people are talking about the game's single player when they talk about how awesome it is.

Halo 1 had an unexpected multiplayer popularity, even though there was no Live for it. LAN parties for it were the most fun thing ever, and it spawned some extremely good, competitive players at MLG. (major league gaming.. huge gaming tournament for money)

**Gonzo** · 02-05-2009, 05:54 PM

I love to play this game online. Honestly, one of the most fun games online ever for me. I have to agree its overrated, the series really hasn't deviated all that much from the formula that made the 1st one popular but none the less its still awesome. I'm not a huge FPS fan, and I've played CoD 5 and the like. I prefer Halo 3 over CoD to be honest. I'm just not a sucker for realism etc. as far as FPS' go.

**Requiem** · 02-05-2009, 08:47 PM

^What? The problem with the series is that it deviated -too much- from the original formula. Multiplayer now has -nothing- on multiplayer in Halo 1.

**Gonzo** · 02-05-2009, 09:04 PM

The games don't feel like a drastically new experience from game to game. They threw in dual wielding and changed the life bar (which is hardly that far a deviation). I don't really see how Halo 3 is drastically different from Halo 1. Maybe I'm just missing something obvious but I dunno.

**Requiem** · 02-05-2009, 09:46 PM

Because they changed the entire game's engine. It doesn't play the same from 1 to 2. 2 to 3 play relatively similar, while 1 to 2 or 1 to 3 are nothing alike. They changed the game's physics after 1, from weapon physics, to player physics. It is the same game in name and style alone.

The only really similar thing is the story and graphical style. The gameplay is completely different.

**Big Fat Mike** · 02-05-2009, 09:49 PM

I just got Halo 3 like....today. (I came out from under my rock). Anyone here that sucks/ doesn't suck but isn't a dick about it that wants to play tonight? My back is on fiiiree and theres no way Im going to be able to sleep with the pain I'm in

**Gonzo** · 02-05-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Requiem

Because they changed the entire game's engine. It doesn't play the same from 1 to 2. 2 to 3 play relatively similar, while 1 to 2 or 1 to 3 are nothing alike. They changed the game's physics after 1, from weapon physics, to player physics. It is the same game in name and style alone.

The only really similar thing is the story and graphical style. The gameplay is completely different.

Dunno, it was like 6 years ago when Halo came out. I guess I just don't remember that far.

**Requiem** · 02-05-2009, 11:04 PM

We used to have weekly LAN parties that carried over even after Halo 2 came out, because we still liked 1 better. So for several years, we played Halo 1 religiously.

Another different friend had LAN parties virtually every day for about a year after the game came out. He's played with most of the top MLG pros. The Ogre brothers, Zyos, Walshy, and a lot of others.

Halo 1 days were pretty amazing. Good players connected online over Xbox Connect, and had some pretty amazing matches. The main reason I remember it so well is because of the people they played with. I couldn't even stack up to their skill level, but I watched their games, and they were insane. The guy who hosted these parties was ranked 13th in the world over xbox connect for a while. (keep in mind, majority of pros used this to play others of their skill level) Seriously, the guy was a god at the game, and had a chance to go pro but never did. He beat The Ogres a couple times even.

Another buddy of theirs is currently dating Foxy, one of the top female MLG pros (and she's fucking hot). He himself was one of the best snipers I've ever seen in the game. Played with a 10 sensitivity, and was a god at it. (Go figure, he ended up being a marine sniper when he went into the military)

Brings back memories, and it sucks the game changed like it did. The game really defined skill-based shooters. Halo 3 is good, but Halo 1 was -amazing-.

**Kalyx triaD** · 02-05-2009, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Fat Mike

I just got Halo 3 like....today. (I came out from under my rock). Anyone here that sucks/ doesn't suck but isn't a dick about it that wants to play tonight? My back is on fiiiree and theres no way Im going to be able to sleep with the pain I'm in

Me!!!!

**Big Fat Mike** · 02-06-2009, 12:24 AM

Then come online already

**Kalyx triaD** · 02-06-2009, 12:31 AM

I won't be on til later.

**Big Fat Mike** · 02-06-2009, 12:33 AM

But Im all fucked up from the muscle relaxers NOW.

**Kalyx triaD** · 02-06-2009, 12:45 AM

Druggie.

**Kalyx triaD** · 02-06-2009, 03:08 AM

And in other news, Halo Wars is actually good. I was just getting into Endwar and I must say I rather play Halo Wars. Not on some fanboy shit. It's addictive in a way...

**.44 Magdalene** · 02-06-2009, 03:21 AM

Have you actually played it?

**Kalyx triaD** · 02-06-2009, 03:54 AM

The demo's out, dude.

**.44 Magdalene** · 02-06-2009, 04:35 AM

Oh, lol.

**Big Fat Mike** · 02-06-2009, 10:21 AM

Im not a druggie, I have a legitimate back problem

**Requiem** · 02-06-2009, 10:27 AM

THAT'S WHAT A DRUGGIE WOULD SAY

**The Mackem** · 02-06-2009, 10:30 AM

Yeah, VG forum is to be a drug free place Big Fat Mike.

**Gonzo** · 02-07-2009, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Requiem

We used to have weekly LAN parties that carried over even after Halo 2 came out, because we still liked 1 better. So for several years, we played Halo 1 religiously.

Another different friend had LAN parties virtually every day for about a year after the game came out. He's played with most of the top MLG pros. The Ogre brothers, Zyos, Walshy, and a lot of others.

Halo 1 days were pretty amazing. Good players connected online over Xbox Connect, and had some pretty amazing matches. The main reason I remember it so well is because of the people they played with. I couldn't even stack up to their skill level, but I watched their games, and they were insane. The guy who hosted these parties was ranked 13th in the world over xbox connect for a while. (keep in mind, majority of pros used this to play others of their skill level) Seriously, the guy was a god at the game, and had a chance to go pro but never did. He beat The Ogres a couple times even.

Another buddy of theirs is currently dating Foxy, one of the top female MLG pros (and she's fucking hot). He himself was one of the best snipers I've ever seen in the game. Played with a 10 sensitivity, and was a god at it. (Go figure, he ended up being a marine sniper when he went into the military)

Brings back memories, and it sucks the game changed like it did. The game really defined skill-based shooters. Halo 3 is good, but Halo 1 was -amazing-.

My friends and I used to LAN with Halo 1 as well. We would find 10+ kids and take over the house before his parents got home. They used to be so pissed when they walked in and there were wires everywhere. I remember playing online over XBox connect one time, 4 friends of mine versus some random kids. These kids were jumping through the air on High Ground (I think that was the map, the one where it had that long catwalk where the sniper rifle was) and sniping people with head shots.

**Requiem** · 02-07-2009, 12:44 PM

^Hang Em High. Greatest Halo map ever. That, and Damnation.

LAN parties were cool because people started to know about this friend hosting them all the time. They had 4 TVs, set up in different rooms, with 4 xboxes. People from all over Missouri would show up, and most of the time he didn't even know them.

Everyone around here who played video games got to know who he was, and he'd be walking through school and have someone just be like "SUP NAZI" and he would have no idea who they were (his halo name was HALO NAZI).

**Gonzo** · 02-07-2009, 03:43 PM

It used to be real fun. We would yell at each other from room to room and shit talk to keep things fun. I remember playing rockets on prisoner and my buddy was on the highest catwalk. I was in one of the corners and fired ahead of him where he was running. I didn't aim for the ground for whatever reason, but he jumped and the rocket hit him directly in air. It was epic. He was on a killing spree or something. All I heard from the next room was, "Ian you motherrrrr fuckerrrrr."

**Evil Vito** · 02-09-2009, 11:10 AM

A lot of my friends seemingly do nothing but play this game, so they can generally slaughter me with ease. One of them routinely plays games up to 250-kills on Lockout, takes fucking ages and he always wins by at least 100.

I get frustrated online because I feel like all it is is a barrage of grenades and then an easy kill...I'm used to COD where you have time to react to a grenade but that's not the case in Halo. Like seriously whenever I see an opponent the first thing they do is go for their grenades. Just pretty boring IMO.

**Kalyx triaD** · 02-09-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vito 22

A lot of my friends seemingly do nothing but play this game, so they can generally slaughter me with ease. One of them routinely plays games up to 250-kills on Lockout, takes fucking ages and he always wins by at least 100.

I get frustrated online because I feel like all it is is a barrage of grenades and then an easy kill...I'm used to COD where you have time to react to a grenade but that's not the case in Halo. Like seriously whenever I see an opponent the first thing they do is go for their grenades. Just pretty boring IMO.

I know it seems that way but there's a lot of stuff going on in a high level game. The big three in Halo is Grenades, Guns, and Melee. Learning how to use the three main attacks effectively, as well as countering them, is paramount. A well versed player (like myself) would make a grenade happy opponant look silly as we'd walk right around the blast range and put them down. I do understand your view being that you're not experienced in Halo.

A lot of guys complain about silly things like 'too much jumping' or ''grenade over usage' and it usually comes off to me that they're just not experienced enough in the game. It's a hard arguement for me because they're not gonna go back and play Halo enough to move past those short-comings just from my counsil, ya know? That's why I like hearing about what people dislike about Halo or any game because I can conclude whether they have legit issues or the game just overwhelmed them.

**Requiem** · 02-09-2009, 12:39 PM

Nah, grenades are bad for killing. They should be used either in groups of people, and then picking those people off, or they should be used to make someone move. They can be a great tool to guide people out of hiding.

My main dislike about Halo 3 is their broken melee system. They shouldn't have changed it. In 1 and 2, whoever punched first tended to win the fight. In Halo 3, whoever has more health will always come out on top. It's stupid, and takes a lot of the reactionary skill out of it.

In Halo 1, I was a god at melee. I played boxer, while most people I knew still played normal setup, so I came out 90% of the time with the victory in a close-up fight. In 2, not so much because of some changes to how things worked, but punching itself was the same, and you could still destroy someone if you knew what you were doing.

Now, it's just luck.. Hope you have that little bit more health than the guy you're fighting.

**Kalyx triaD** · 02-09-2009, 01:47 PM

Even then you have to consider your health in the matter. Still, it was changed mostly to take the host advantage out of the equation. Doesn't affect my game enough for me to worry about it. And you sound like a decent enough player that you could work around it, yourself.

Players like us don't need luck.

**Boondock Saint** · 02-09-2009, 06:53 PM

What is Halo Wars and ODST?

**Requiem** · 02-09-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD

Even then you have to consider your health in the matter. Still, it was changed mostly to take the host advantage out of the equation. Doesn't affect my game enough for me to worry about it. And you sound like a decent enough player that you could work around it, yourself.

Players like us don't need luck.

Host advantage is a non-factor. It never mattered in Halo 2.

**Kalyx triaD** · 02-10-2009, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boondock Saint

What is Halo Wars and ODST?

Halo Wars is an RTS set in the Halo universe. Surprisingly fun game. The demo is out. ODST is a prequel/expansion with a new story to play through, as well as Halo 3's multiplayer (with every map released plus three new ones). ODST is the last Halo 3 product you'll ever need, unless you wanna revisit Halo 3's story.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Requiem

Host advantage is a non-factor. It never mattered in Halo 2.

I heard it was, but maybe you're right. Still doesn't alter gameplay of such a magnitude that it deserved the outcry it got in the Halo 3 forums.

**Requiem** · 02-10-2009, 12:50 PM

Nah, it is a pretty big deal. Meleeing is still possible, but it is absolutely a horrible mechanic that they changed it to. Also wish they had kept the Halo 1 way of having to crouch when you land in order to not take damage if falling from high places.

Just saying.. it's little things that piss me off about Halo 3.

**Kalyx triaD** · 02-10-2009, 01:20 PM

No damage from high falls is a welcome change, IMO.

**Requiem** · 02-10-2009, 02:19 PM

It's pretty gay, IMO. They just kept making change after change to take the skill out of everything. Obviously, there's still skill in certain things, but they removed a lot of it.

**Kalyx triaD** · 02-10-2009, 07:27 PM

Son of a bitch. Sandbox is gonna be the shit.

That's ridiculous. I see great Forgeries ahead for me on that map. I need to preorder Halo Wars.

**Anathema** · 02-10-2009, 09:52 PM

Yeah Im really looking forward to the new map pack.

Shame I cant use it until June. Damn I gone 130 days without halo 3 and its killing me!!

**Requiem** · 02-10-2009, 10:18 PM

Sandbox is going to be amazing. Can't wait for it. We are going to make some epic maps probably.

02-05-2009, 09:52 AM	#241
Fignuts Hey Mister! Posts: 54,952	Nah, I agree it's overrated. But that doesn't mean it's not awesome. Just that it's not the second coming of Jeebus Christ, like some people make it out to be.

02-05-2009, 10:30 AM	#242
Blitz Angel Headed Hipster Posts: 37,942	Is this a vastly different gameplay style than COD? I've heard it is.

02-05-2009, 11:14 AM	#243
Requiem Posts: 19,301	Halo 3 is mad overrated. Halo 1 was not overrated. It was well received for a reason. Halo 2 gets an unfair bad rep, but Halo 3 is majorly overrated. And yes it is vastly different from COD. It is still fun, but it's not that great of a game compared to its predecessors.

02-05-2009, 11:41 AM	#244
G Selectively Social Posts: 16,336	I haven't played any of the games, but I read one of the books, The Fall of Reach. I really liked it. It ended by them seeing a halo shaped planet or something, so I'm guessing that's what the games are about?

02-05-2009, 11:45 AM	#245
Requiem Posts: 19,301	Yeah. There are multiple 'planets' in the shape of a halo, with the planet's surface on the inside of the rings. That's where most of the fighting takes place in the game. That's the basis of it. The game shines in multiplayer though. I don't think the majority of people are talking about the game's single player when they talk about how awesome it is. Halo 1 had an unexpected multiplayer popularity, even though there was no Live for it. LAN parties for it were the most fun thing ever, and it spawned some extremely good, competitive players at MLG. (major league gaming.. huge gaming tournament for money)

02-05-2009, 05:54 PM	#246
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	I love to play this game online. Honestly, one of the most fun games online ever for me. I have to agree its overrated, the series really hasn't deviated all that much from the formula that made the 1st one popular but none the less its still awesome. I'm not a huge FPS fan, and I've played CoD 5 and the like. I prefer Halo 3 over CoD to be honest. I'm just not a sucker for realism etc. as far as FPS' go.

02-05-2009, 08:47 PM	#247
Requiem Posts: 19,301	^What? The problem with the series is that it deviated -too much- from the original formula. Multiplayer now has -nothing- on multiplayer in Halo 1.

02-05-2009, 09:04 PM	#248
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	The games don't feel like a drastically new experience from game to game. They threw in dual wielding and changed the life bar (which is hardly that far a deviation). I don't really see how Halo 3 is drastically different from Halo 1. Maybe I'm just missing something obvious but I dunno.

02-05-2009, 09:46 PM	#249
Requiem Posts: 19,301	Because they changed the entire game's engine. It doesn't play the same from 1 to 2. 2 to 3 play relatively similar, while 1 to 2 or 1 to 3 are nothing alike. They changed the game's physics after 1, from weapon physics, to player physics. It is the same game in name and style alone. The only really similar thing is the story and graphical style. The gameplay is completely different.

02-05-2009, 09:49 PM	#250
Big Fat Mike Brad Vickers Posts: 5,380	I just got Halo 3 like....today. (I came out from under my rock). Anyone here that sucks/ doesn't suck but isn't a dick about it that wants to play tonight? My back is on fiiiree and theres no way Im going to be able to sleep with the pain I'm in

02-06-2009, 12:31 AM	#255
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,951	I won't be on til later.

02-05-2009, 11:04 PM	#252
Requiem Posts: 19,301	We used to have weekly LAN parties that carried over even after Halo 2 came out, because we still liked 1 better. So for several years, we played Halo 1 religiously. Another different friend had LAN parties virtually every day for about a year after the game came out. He's played with most of the top MLG pros. The Ogre brothers, Zyos, Walshy, and a lot of others. Halo 1 days were pretty amazing. Good players connected online over Xbox Connect, and had some pretty amazing matches. The main reason I remember it so well is because of the people they played with. I couldn't even stack up to their skill level, but I watched their games, and they were insane. The guy who hosted these parties was ranked 13th in the world over xbox connect for a while. (keep in mind, majority of pros used this to play others of their skill level) Seriously, the guy was a god at the game, and had a chance to go pro but never did. He beat The Ogres a couple times even. Another buddy of theirs is currently dating Foxy, one of the top female MLG pros (and she's fucking hot). He himself was one of the best snipers I've ever seen in the game. Played with a 10 sensitivity, and was a god at it. (Go figure, he ended up being a marine sniper when he went into the military) Brings back memories, and it sucks the game changed like it did. The game really defined skill-based shooters. Halo 3 is good, but Halo 1 was -amazing-.

02-06-2009, 12:24 AM	#254
Big Fat Mike Brad Vickers Posts: 5,380	Then come online already

02-06-2009, 12:33 AM	#256
Big Fat Mike Brad Vickers Posts: 5,380	But Im all fucked up from the muscle relaxers NOW.

02-06-2009, 12:45 AM	#257
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,951	Druggie.

02-06-2009, 03:08 AM	#258
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,951	And in other news, Halo Wars is actually good. I was just getting into Endwar and I must say I rather play Halo Wars. Not on some fanboy shit. It's addictive in a way...

02-06-2009, 03:21 AM	#259
.44 Magdalene Smitten for Kittens Posts: 3,814	Have you actually played it?

02-06-2009, 03:54 AM	#260
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,951	The demo's out, dude.

02-06-2009, 04:35 AM	#261
.44 Magdalene Smitten for Kittens Posts: 3,814	Oh, lol.

02-06-2009, 10:21 AM	#262
Big Fat Mike Brad Vickers Posts: 5,380	Im not a druggie, I have a legitimate back problem

02-06-2009, 10:27 AM	#263
Requiem Posts: 19,301	THAT'S WHAT A DRUGGIE WOULD SAY

02-06-2009, 10:30 AM	#264
The Mackem VG + Q&A FORUM REPRESENT Posts: 38,940	Yeah, VG forum is to be a drug free place Big Fat Mike.

02-07-2009, 12:44 PM	#266
Requiem Posts: 19,301	^Hang Em High. Greatest Halo map ever. That, and Damnation. LAN parties were cool because people started to know about this friend hosting them all the time. They had 4 TVs, set up in different rooms, with 4 xboxes. People from all over Missouri would show up, and most of the time he didn't even know them. Everyone around here who played video games got to know who he was, and he'd be walking through school and have someone just be like "SUP NAZI" and he would have no idea who they were (his halo name was HALO NAZI).

02-07-2009, 03:43 PM	#267
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	It used to be real fun. We would yell at each other from room to room and shit talk to keep things fun. I remember playing rockets on prisoner and my buddy was on the highest catwalk. I was in one of the corners and fired ahead of him where he was running. I didn't aim for the ground for whatever reason, but he jumped and the rocket hit him directly in air. It was epic. He was on a killing spree or something. All I heard from the next room was, "Ian you motherrrrr fuckerrrrr."

02-09-2009, 11:10 AM	#268
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,383	A lot of my friends seemingly do nothing but play this game, so they can generally slaughter me with ease. One of them routinely plays games up to 250-kills on Lockout, takes fucking ages and he always wins by at least 100. I get frustrated online because I feel like all it is is a barrage of grenades and then an easy kill...I'm used to COD where you have time to react to a grenade but that's not the case in Halo. Like seriously whenever I see an opponent the first thing they do is go for their grenades. Just pretty boring IMO.

02-09-2009, 12:39 PM	#270
Requiem Posts: 19,301	Nah, grenades are bad for killing. They should be used either in groups of people, and then picking those people off, or they should be used to make someone move. They can be a great tool to guide people out of hiding. My main dislike about Halo 3 is their broken melee system. They shouldn't have changed it. In 1 and 2, whoever punched first tended to win the fight. In Halo 3, whoever has more health will always come out on top. It's stupid, and takes a lot of the reactionary skill out of it. In Halo 1, I was a god at melee. I played boxer, while most people I knew still played normal setup, so I came out 90% of the time with the victory in a close-up fight. In 2, not so much because of some changes to how things worked, but punching itself was the same, and you could still destroy someone if you knew what you were doing. Now, it's just luck.. Hope you have that little bit more health than the guy you're fighting.

02-09-2009, 01:47 PM	#271
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,951	Even then you have to consider your health in the matter. Still, it was changed mostly to take the host advantage out of the equation. Doesn't affect my game enough for me to worry about it. And you sound like a decent enough player that you could work around it, yourself. Players like us don't need luck.

02-09-2009, 06:53 PM	#272
Boondock Saint Posts: 8,795	What is Halo Wars and ODST?

02-10-2009, 12:50 PM	#275
Requiem Posts: 19,301	Nah, it is a pretty big deal. Meleeing is still possible, but it is absolutely a horrible mechanic that they changed it to. Also wish they had kept the Halo 1 way of having to crouch when you land in order to not take damage if falling from high places. Just saying.. it's little things that piss me off about Halo 3.

02-10-2009, 01:20 PM	#276
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,951	No damage from high falls is a welcome change, IMO.

02-10-2009, 02:19 PM	#277
Requiem Posts: 19,301	It's pretty gay, IMO. They just kept making change after change to take the skill out of everything. Obviously, there's still skill in certain things, but they removed a lot of it.