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Old 12-17-2008, 11:12 AM   #241
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I DON'T WANT MANNY RAMIREZ IN NEW YORK!

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Old 12-17-2008, 11:16 AM   #242
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Watching K-Rod's press conference Love the press conference after a big signing.

Looks weird seeing him wear #75 tho. Hopefully he ptches a million times better than the only other #75 in baseball.
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Rafael Furcal agrees to a 3-year, $30 mil. deal with the Dodgers. Let's see if he burns this bridge.

Catcher Matt Treanor has agreed to a deal with the Tigers.

Brewers/Yankees talks for Mike Cameron may be all but dead.
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Frank Wren will probably be replaced within a year or so. He's no Schuerholz, but everybody knew that. Lots of Braves fans are clamoring for Manny now, but I just don't see that happening.
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:20 PM   #245
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Trot Nixon and Chris Duffy sign minor league deals with the Brewers.

Other than that, no decent news.
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You know what Cubs blunder doesn't get talked about nearly enough? They sold Josh Hamilton to the Reds for $100,000.
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Old 12-19-2008, 02:01 PM   #248
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It doesn't really work like that. The Reds bought the Cubs' pick in the Rule 5 Draft for $100,000. But officially, the Cubs have to draft somebody then trade him to the Reds. So the Reds tell the Cubs who to take. But yeah it does suck that all those other teams never took a flyer on Hamilton.
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According to Buster Olney and Peter Gammons...

Scott Boras wants $195 million for Mark Teixeira. Scott Boras denies this though.
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Nationals sign Daniel Cabrera.
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Maybe he'll get his shit together there. Thought maybe the Jays would grab him and put him in the bullpen.
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Really hope Tex signs somewhere soon because Boras' other big clients aren't signing anywhere until the Tex deal is done with.

Really want the Mets to get Lowe...I get the impression he's more concerned with the dollar amount than with the number of years. Perhaps he could be had for 3 years with an option.
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Angels withdraw offer to slugger Teixeira

LOS ANGELES (AP)—The Los Angeles Angels have pulled their eight-year offer to Mark Teixeira and will no longer go after the first baseman.

Team spokesman Tim Mead confirmed Sunday the Angels have withdrawn their offer and are “out of the Mark Teixeira derby.” The team made its offer, reportedly worth about $160 million, during the winter meetings in Las Vegas earlier this month.

The Red Sox said last week that they “are not going to be a factor” in signing the 28-year-old Maryland native. Washington and Baltimore have expressed interest in Teixeira.

The Angels obtained Teixeira from the Atlanta Braves in late July. Playing in a combined 157 games with the Angels and Braves, Teixeira had 33 homers and 121 RBIs along with a career-best .308 average.

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Now this could just be postering, but you have to wonder if Boras is taking too long for the likes of some of these teams.
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:28 AM   #258
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Agent dares Braves to boycott his players

Arn Tellem, lead agent for the Wasserman Media Group, on Thursday evening dared the jilted Atlanta Braves to boycott his players, a heading he said would defy baseball policies as well as national labor laws.

In a seven-point statement, the usually well-regarded Tellem disputed the Braves’ claim they’d been duped during negotiations with the agents for shortstop Rafael Furcal, who agreed Wednesday on a three-year contract with the Dodgers. The Braves believed they had come to an agreement 36 hours earlier.

In the aftermath, Braves president John Schuerholz called the agency – and, presumably, Tellem and fellow agent Paul Kinzer, in particular – “despicable” and “unprofessional,” according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. For the most part, Kinzer handled the Furcal negotiations.

Both Schuerholz and general manager Frank Wren said they no longer would deal with players represented by the Wasserman agency, whose clientèle includes Chase Utley, Hanley Ramirez, Aramis Ramirez, Hideki Matsui, Carlos Lee, Nomar Garciaparra, Frank Thomas and Francisco Rodriguez, among others. Tellem also represents Randy Wolf, a free-agent pitcher the Braves might have considered for their rotation.

“The Atlanta Braves will no longer do business with that company – ever,” Schuerholz said.

The dispute perhaps boils down to a conversation late Monday night between Wren and Kinzer, along with the authority held by a term sheet. During that discussion, Kinzer apparently requested the Braves fax him a signed term sheet. The Braves complied, believing an agreement had been reached.

According to Tellem’s statement, “the Braves were fully aware that Furcal was not prepared to make a decision but had requested an opportunity to sleep on it, before deciding.”

“Moreover,” the statement read, “the Baseball rules which all agents and teams operate under are clear that no deal exists between a player and a team unless and until: (i) there is a signed and executed player agreement or; (ii) the Player’s Union and the Commissioner’s office have otherwise confirmed the deal. Neither occurred here.”

Several general managers and agents contacted by Yahoo! Sports said Thursday the term sheet constitutes a handshake agreement, and they couldn’t recall a situation when such an agreement was broken.

“I’d be furious,” an American League general manager said.

Tellem further stated he would continue to engage the Braves regarding his clients, and he expected the Braves to be receptive.

“If it serves our clients, we will continue to present opportunities to the Braves, which in accordance with the rules governing Major League Baseball, the Braves must entertain. We hope that once emotions have subsided, the Braves will act in a manner consistent with not only their obligations under the Collective Bargaining Agreement and The National Labor Relations Act, but also the best interests of the franchise. In short, we would not want this incident to color their better judgment.”

Furcal was signed by the Braves and broke into the big leagues with them in 2000. Following six productive seasons as their shortstop, he became a free agent and signed a three-year deal with the Dodgers before the 2006 season. A free agent once again this offseason, he ultimately faced a tough choice between his two former teams, a situation that resulted in confusion and rancor.

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In case anyone hadn't been following the Furcal nonsense. Sounds to me like Furcal and/or his agent walked away from an agreement in principal. Doesn't make Furcal or the agency look good, not against any law, but still some bad business.
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The agent and Furcal keep coming out with statements trying to act like its the Braves fault when the Braves are probably one of the classiest organizations in baseball, and wouldn't do anything like boycott an entire agency unless it was something serious. John Schuerholz of all people was probably the most respected GM in the league when he was with us. The fact that he came out to the media about all of this shows how serious an issue it was to our team.
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Sweet. Yankees lock up Wang for another 3 years.
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I wonder how Boras's other clients feel because they have to wait for Teixeira to sign in order to let the market develop. No big time hitters have signed yet, and the market is pretty much at a stand still.
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SI reports Yankees are on the verge of signing Mark Teixeira to an 8-year $180 million contract. Here we go again.
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$423.5 million for three players.

What pisses me off is that this might force the Red Sox to step it up and overpay like shit for Derek Lowe.
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HOLY SHIT

I did not see this coming, I honestly though Teix was a pipe dream and didnt want it to happen.

Why did they trade for Swisher?
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Old 12-23-2008, 04:04 PM   #266
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Maybe We will see Swish and melky platoon in CF. Damon in Left, nady in right, and Matsui at DH.

Wow.

They arent spending that much in the end, Since Teix and Burnett combined make the same or less yearly than Giambi and Abreu did coming off the books.

So really they only raised their payroll the difference between Mussina and CC, and since they let Pettite walk overall their payroll could be down.
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The shitty thing is though is that the Yankees and Mets got NYC to give them tax money in order to finance the new stadium, while they're spending a combined half a billion dollars on players in the past three weeks.
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Party time in the Bronx.

I totally thought that Teix would be going down to D.C. or Boston either late today or tomorrow. Anyhow, according to a few sources, he's got a full no-trade clause and he can't opt out. Joel Sherman reports that the Yankees may now try to trade off one of either Johnny Damon, Hideki Matsui, Xavier Nady, and Nick Swisher. I guess the bright side of this is that the Yankees are gonna be under $200 mil per season for payroll.

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The shitty thing is though is that the Yankees and Mets got NYC to give them tax money in order to finance the new stadium, while they're spending a combined half a billion dollars on players in the past three weeks.
Don't worry, Selig just handed Hal a tax bill for $26.9 million.

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What pisses me off is that this might force the Red Sox to step it up and overpay like shit for Derek Lowe.
Word going around is that your Mets are in deep talks with Lowe. Here's for a late birthday gift, my Hat City brother.
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lol I love the Yankees but this offseason just seems a little...

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HOLY SHIT

I did not see this coming, I honestly though Teix was a pipe dream and didnt want it to happen.

Why did they trade for Swisher?
They didn't give up anything for Swisher really. They saw that they could get him for cheap and jumped on it. I think with Swisher they were looking more towards after next season when most of our outfielders are FA - Matsui, Damon and Nady will all probably be gone so Swisher can slot into LF or RF.

I hope they trade Nady now. He has the most value out of him, Damon and Matsui. They could probably get something decent back for him.
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It doesn't matter. The Yankees will still not win the World Series.
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It doesn't matter. The Yankees will still not win the World Series.
Umm, You cant predict anything like that. Who would have thought that Tampa would do what they did.

This doesnt guarantee anything, but they are Yankees, and you cant count them out until l the end, and they just landed 3 of the top 4 Free Agents.
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It doesn't matter. The Yankees will still not win the World Series.
Also, The Dodgers wont even win their Division.
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Don't worry, Selig just handed Hal a tax bill for $26.9 million.
Tax bills don't mean shit. They pay A-Rod more than that. The luxury tax is useless because the teams who can afford to go over the luxury threshold can also afford to pay the luxury tax.

But especially when you see New York State taxing soda and itunes, people in the city have to pay more taxes for the new stadiums. The Yanks and Mets claim that they are in desperate need of the relief in building their stadiums, but then go off and spend half a billion dollars this winter.
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Also, The Dodgers wont even win their Division.
Depends on if we get Manny back.
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Nationals signed LHP Gustavo Chacin to a minor league contract and invited him to spring training.

He's still way better than Joe Blanton.
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Word going around is that your Mets are in deep talks with Lowe. Here's for a late birthday gift, my Hat City brother.


Yeah, now I'm hearing a deal is almost in place. 4 years, $13-14 mil a year. However, it might wind up being 3 years with a 4th year option (which I kind of hope it is).

But yeah. Johan/Lowe/Maine/Pelfrey/5th guy is pretty good.

Hopefully they can sign a couple low-end starters to compete for the 5th spot with Jon Niese and Bobby Parnell. I wouldn't be opposed to giving Pedro a shot so long as it wasn't a guaranteed roster spot.
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