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Old 10-27-2008, 12:21 PM   #1
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He thought they were having a dance battle. Patrick "The Leather" Cote just wasn't good enough...
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Old 10-27-2008, 12:37 PM   #2
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It was a weird main event.

I thought that Cote was doing a fantastic job at not giving Silva any openings to strike him in the manner that he usually can with opponents.

But there is no denying that Silva was moving around pretty oddly.

Is it because he is bored, and trying to make this fight more entertaining than his last 50 second fight? Or was Cote just not making any mistakes for him to capitalize on and Silva was trying to confuse Cote in trying to make him make mistakes?

The freak injury thing just compounded the odd details of the entire fight.
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That speaks for itself. I couldn't possibly cunt you off more than you have to yourself. That was awesome.
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Old 10-27-2008, 03:25 PM   #4
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How does one cunt off? When you can reasonably explain that to me, i'll let this go.
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I'd love explain all kinds of British slang to but I'm too entertained by you going loopy so please continue
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Anti-climactic..

Silva looked to be pacing himself much more than in the past.. Even with the dancing and antics, I had him winning both rounds..
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I have to agree with RP to an extent on the argument. Most fans who pay for a UFC PPV, or any sports PPV with a card for that matter, pay most of thier money to see the main event. It's always been like that. The main event is the main attraction and that's the fight most fans are paying to see. All the UFC fans that I know that pay for the PPV's rarely know most of the undercard fighters, but understand they'll get 2 or 3 nice fights out of it every time. The main event is almost always the meat and potatoes and I can understand why people would be dissapointed with the PPV, even if the undercard had some nice fights.

The Last impression stays with you the most.
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I have to agree with RP to an extent on the argument. Most fans who pay for a UFC PPV, or any sports PPV with a card for that matter, pay most of thier money to see the main event. It's always been like that. The main event is the main attraction and that's the fight most fans are paying to see. All the UFC fans that I know that pay for the PPV's rarely know most of the undercard fighters, but understand they'll get 2 or 3 nice fights out of it every time. The main event is almost always the meat and potatoes and I can understand why people would be dissapointed with the PPV, even if the undercard had some nice fights.

The Last impression stays with you the most.
Nobody is saying that the main event isn't the draw. That isn't what you are paying the fee for though.

You don't buy a packet of a Starburst just for one flavour even if the Strawberry ones are awesome. When you go to the movies and the film is shit, you don't demand your money back.

And EVERYONE knows the risk beforehand of a fight being shit or some circumstance happening to ruin a show.
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but I never pay for these things anyway cause I'm never satisfied.
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Old 10-27-2008, 04:13 PM   #11
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You can't expect every fight to be great though..
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Old 10-27-2008, 04:17 PM   #12
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oh yea, I agree 100%. you would be an idiot to. but I thnk the mindset of most paying customers is the main event "should always be quality" and if it's just ok, but not great, it's dissapointing to people.
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Old 10-27-2008, 04:18 PM   #13
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you're going to have a lot of paying customers next month though who are only paying to see Brock. he's the focus. I just hope the main event is a good one.
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I knew this fight was going to suck regardless of the result, I just didnt think it was going to suck that bad.

When they said that Anderson was fighting Cote, I lost all interest in buying tickets to see it live. I didnt want to pay that kind of money to see silva obliterate cote in the first and of all the people to do it, I did NOT want to see Cote be the one to upset Silva. That would be terrible!

I did end up paying a little to watch it and I was not disappointed with the rest of the card. It was great, but the Silva-Cote fight was garbage.
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Only paying for the main event is boxing mentality. UFC always tends to give at least 3 fights between division contenders, and with there being less weightclasses, people are generally wize to alot of the competators over boxing.

As for the fight. It wasn't entertaining to watch. I think Silva was 20-18 on the cards when it finished, and who knows. He destroyed Irvin before he had time break a sweat. Maybe he was just giving Cote the chance to try and beat him. Anderson Silva is a cocky arrogant dude now. It's maybe a crazy idea, but who knows... there could be any number of reasons why it went down like that. Only he knows.

Thing that got to me was RP saying he is no longer the best fighter in the world. Even though he was 15 minutes earlier, and he just got another win to improve his record.

Nobody who is considered the all time best in a sport has had totally consistant successful performance for the entirety of their careers. Everyone has gone through a bad spell or a few close knit losses.

And he didn't even fucking lose!
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Old 10-27-2008, 11:29 PM   #16
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He dominated the fight.. Looked to me like he was taken his time waiting on Cote to make a mistake.. Not the most entertaining game plan but it was def working and had Cote completely flustered and frustrated.. As you said, no one but Silva and his camp know why he went with the style but I mean, he might have planned on doing the same thing to Irving, but Irving made a mistake way before Cote did.. Never know..

He is still the best pound for pound fighter in the world so whatever..
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Asked about Kimbo Slice after UFC 90 last night, Dana White said that now that EliteXC is out of business and Kimbo is looking for work, he's welcome to appear on the UFC's reality show The Ultimate Fighter:

Asked about Kimbo, White said, "He can be on The Ultimate Fighter. What's he done other than get 10 million hits on YouTube, what's he done to deserve to be in the UFC? Nothing. I don't consider him a real athlete. He won't win The Ultimate Fighter. The offer's out there if he wants to take it, but he won't win it."

When White was then asked whether he would focus an upcoming season of The Ultimate Fighter on heavyweights just for Kimbo, he answered, "We might do that."

Realistically, there's zero chance that Kimbo -- who made $500,000 for his loss to Seth Petruzelli this month -- would agree to appear on a reality show where the grand prize is a UFC contract that pays $100,000 a year. But White says Kimbo is welcome to try it out if he wants.

And, of course, White is correct that Kimbo wouldn't win The Ultimate Fighter. After all, Seth Petruzelli didn't.

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I want to see Dana White vs Kimbo Slice on PPV. make it happen
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I think Dana should pay Kimbo like $250k, under the table, to appear on TUF.. I mean, if he wins, awesome, if not Dana proved his point (better than paying Sean Gannon to fight in the UFC) and the ratings would be through the roof for the whole season..
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Dana doesn't pay a lot of his top guys that money. He won't pay Kimbo it that's for damn sure.
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I think Dana is going overboard with the Kimbo hate. The guys not a legitimate fighter, but hes still a fucking human being. And while he may not be a very good fighter, hes fucking learning. Hes trying as hard as he can and just because he was pushed the way he was by bull shit promoters doesnt mean he deserves all that hate.
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I agree with Reavant. All that 'exposed as a fraud' bullsit was a little much. Fighters lose, it happens. Even really good fighters get absolutely destroyed sometimes also. Rich Franklin got absolutely anihilated by Anderson Silave Twice. Keith Jardine was destroyed by Wanderlei. It's just apart of fighting. Do I think Kinbo is an awesome fighter? No. But to say he's a fraud because he got knocked on his ass once is a little ridiculous.

If he keeps working with Bas Ruten, I'm sure he can make something of himself as a fighter one day. He'll at least be able to be food for Lesnar I'd say.
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He was exposed as a fraud though. CBS and Elite were pushing him as a big thing and he clearly isn't. And it totally is his own fault because he chose to start at the top. Same goes for Brock Lesnar if he tanks. Totally different to Rich Franklin who had beaten everyone in his career bar Lyoto Machida before losing to Anderson Silva. Silva is arguably the best fighter in the world and Franklin lost to him. No shame in it. Kimbo got KTFO in 14 seconds by a jab from a fighter who couldn't cut it in the UFC and who wasn't even important enough to even be booked on the main card on the very show he KO'd Kimbo on.

Kimbo is far too old to learn new tricks and he knows it. People were being paid to stand with him for fuck sake!
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I kinda agree with Reavant also in that I like Kimbo, just not EXC.. I think there's a place for him in MMA just like there's a place for any one trick pony..

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Totally different to Rich Franklin who had beaten everyone in his career bar Lyoto Machida before losing to Anderson Silva. Silva is arguably the best fighter in the world and Franklin lost to him. No shame in it.
In that same line of thinking, to even begin to compare Anderson and Wanderlei to Seth Petruzelli is fucking retarded.. Two of the G.O.A.T. compared to a cross dressing UFC reject is lunacy..
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I wasn't comparing them at all, you spaz. I'm simply saying that MMA fighters lose, it happens. And it does.
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LOL

How were you not comparing them??
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The point I was making is that you can lose at anytime to anybody. It's apart of the sport. If you didn't like the examples I chose then fuck off and go play Madden.
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Yeah but they lost to top guys. Kimbo didn't FACT.
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Well, I'm sure I could've used better examples but I really believe that you all know what I'm trying to say and are just giving me shit. There have been many upset wins in MMA. Anybody can win at any time. People win, people lose.
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Well, I'm sure I could've used better examples but I really believe that you all know what I'm trying to say and are just giving me shit. There have been many upset wins in MMA. Anybody can win at any time. People win, people lose.
There have been upset wins. Seth beating Kimbo wasn't one of them. Anyone who was watching that show knew Kimbo was losing.
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There have been upset wins. Seth beating Kimbo wasn't one of them. Anyone who was watching that show knew Kimbo was losing.
To the educated fan yes, but in the EliteXC World no. EliteXC built Kimbo up to be some unstoppable monster and fans of EliteXC I'm sure believed as such. They built it up to be an upset if he lost. It was defeinitely an upset considering what they were paying Kimbo and what they were paying Seth.
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But losing to two of the greatest fighters in the world is quite a bit different than losing to a failed UFC fighter who's biggest claims to fame before this match was losing on TUF and beating Dan Severn who was 50 years old at the time..

No where near the same thing..
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I'm not saying that I don't think Kimbo is terrible. I'm saying that you're a fucking moron if you think losing once to anybody makes you a bad fighter.
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You calling anyone a fucking moron is rich dude.

Kimbo is the shits. Get over it.
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