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Old 06-28-2010, 04:49 PM   #281
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Also; WfC > GoW by a fuckin margin. More strategy in a WfC team deathmatch than I remember in all my playtime in Gears. I'm not saying this as a Transfan - the game is fucking good.
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Old 06-28-2010, 04:53 PM   #282
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You can't be considered the best in Call of Duty by only playing cage matches with RPGs. You can't be considered the best Rock Bander by only mastering one song. You can't be considered the best racer by only racing with PT Cruisers.

You can't be considered the best Street Fighter by only mastering 1 character. There are 35. I'm only asking you to master 5.
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Sports games are exempt from this logic.
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Also; WfC > GoW by a fuckin margin. More strategy in a WfC team deathmatch than I remember in all my playtime in Gears. I'm not saying this as a Transfan - the game is fucking good.
Shame they fucked up the single player then.
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Actually, I take that back. I would consider someone who played well with any team much better than someone who runs the table with only the Lakers/Yankees etc
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You can't be considered the best in Call of Duty by only playing cage matches with RPGs. You can't be considered the best Rock Bander by only mastering one song. You can't be considered the best racer by only racing with PT Cruisers.

You can't be considered the best Street Fighter by only mastering 1 character. There are 35. I'm only asking you to master 5.
- Switching up classes in CoD is akin to switching characters, yes, but if someone uses a single class the entire game I don't see how that's a strike against his skill. In fact if he can make one class work in multiple situations his adaptability should be celebrated.

- The Rock Band analogy might work if it's a competition that forces people to play Face-Offs with each instrument. But I doubt people would accept such terms.

- The best racers only ever choose a single car to use, particularly in games where a player would have no real reason to use a lesser vehicle. He might need something that handles different, but then I might need another character to handle an opponent in Street Fighter.

Bear in mind this is an argument for people who don't play 5 characters competitively. I got my four, and then I could use Ibuki and Juri adequately if push comes to shove. Alva has who, Abel and Sagat? That's a series right there if they lose all their credits.
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Shame they fucked up the single player then.
May we can discuss this 'fuck up' in the proper thread? I played 30mins of campaign and I was sold on it (and I rarely enjoy single player as much as multiplayer). So I'd like to hear this.
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- Switching up classes in CoD is akin to switching characters, yes, but if someone uses a single class the entire game I don't see how that's a strike against his skill. In fact if he can make one class work in multiple situations his adaptability should be celebrated.

- The Rock Band analogy might work if it's a competition that forces people to play Face-Offs with each instrument. But I doubt people would accept such terms.

- The best racers only ever choose a single car to use, particularly in games where a player would have no real reason to use a lesser vehicle. He might need something that handles different, but then I might need another character to handle an opponent in Street Fighter.

Bear in mind this is an argument for people who don't play 5 characters competitively. I got my four, and then I could use Ibuki and Juri adequately if push comes to shove. Alva has who, Abel and Sagat? That's a series right there if they lose all their credits.
My point is, someone who is a jack of all trades will be considered better than someone who is proficient in only one area.

I'm asking for proficiency in 14% of the characters. Fourteen percent. That's all. What would happen if you turned in a project and it was graded 14%?

Alvavrado's been practicing, don't worry. Everyone will do fine.
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Old 06-28-2010, 05:42 PM   #289
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How did that 'across the board' proficiency work when we had those TBs and it's best to choose your mains for your team? Rather have a bitchin Alva/Abel than an Alva of all trades. There's nothing limiting about being awesome with one character.

Anyway; in future tournies you should make it best out of ten, no character limit, 3/5 rounds, all streamed on Justin.tv with me commentating. Dammit.
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Team battles require a team effort (obv) and its much different than...I'm not going to bother. I'm sure you get it tho.

It really would be cool broadcast these on jtv.

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Also; WfC > GoW by a fuckin margin. More strategy in a WfC team deathmatch than I remember in all my playtime in Gears. I'm not saying this as a Transfan - the game is fucking good.
gtfo. There wouldnt BE WfC if there wasnt a Gears. And maybe there wasnt strategy because you didnt play with a full squad (that can be said for ANY team based game)
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and also, to touch base on the subject, i would get bored as fuck using the same character in ANY game. Im a diehard Laker fan but i rarely (other than Roxer and mine's Suns/Lakers series) use them, most of the time picking different teams.

In UFC i never shoot for the same character, or go for Brock Lesnar/GSP/anyone i know who is ridiculously overpowered in the game.

To be honest, i dont see how anyone can use a single character time and time again and not get bored as shit. Me personally, aside from the boredom, i like to test my ability with other characters.
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i added Ant and asked him when he wanted to throw down...but he kinda seemed oblivious to the whole thing, so if i dont get a response, do i get the bye?
yeah I assumed this started in July, but i notice you need to start early? I don't mind tbh, would work out better for me because I'm moving house in 3 days time anyway, and I have to come on here on my iphone cos I have no laptop atm

and what's all this about me practicing on tekken? I've actually been playing ssf4 loads at gamerbase (offline) but I still have no clue what half of you are saying reading some of these posts in here, so sadly I'm still quite shit.
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wouldnt worry about it, i dont understand half their lingo either, so youre still probably better off than i am.

I messaged you on XBL, but ill bring it up here too...im leaving this friday, so figure just sometime this week if we are both on we can just knock it out in a session.
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Okay: watching replay and posting results:

Match 1: Abel v. Ken - Came out strong as Abel, actually taking a big lead health wise before Ant began to work his magic and beat me the first round, and taking any momentum i had away. I avoid the sweep of the match but ultimately Ant puts in work.

Ant wins by score of 3-1

(Ant-1 Alva-0)

Match 2: Sagat v. Cammy - Pretty much stuffed Cammy's offense the entire match, keeping her at a distance while playing more 'defensive minded'

Alvarado wins by score of 3-0

(Ant-1 Alva-1)

Match 3: Cody v. Juri - Really good fight but some big lag kicked in. At one point in time the lag stopped but my guy was still idle for a solid 3 seconds (Ant backed away because he's a standup guy). Had a scare in the second round where i barely won by throwing a rock. Ant worked me in the first match with Ken definitively, and i'd say this was my redemption win.

Alvarado wins by score of 3-0

(Ant-1 Alva-2)

Match 4: Bison v. Ken - Good match. Went back and fourth the majority of the time, with close victories and wide margins both being had. In the end i was able to keep Ant guessing enough to make the right calls offensively.

Alvarado wins by score of 3-1

(Ant-1 Alva-3)

Match 5: Sagat v. Cammy - Okay here is where it gets sticky. The match was almost over with me about to take a W when it lagged out and took us back to the lobby. Me and Ant agree'd on calling that one a match and starting over with the same character. I know its best of nine, which means i had to win five, but seeing as how we were in agreement, we went ahead and used the same characters again.

Alvarado wins by score of 3-0 (lagged out)

(Ant-1 Alva-4)

Match 6: Sagat v. Cammy (rematch) - Close ass game, with me taking the first two rounds then Ant battling back the next two. Though techinically we used Saga/Cammy 3 times against each other, like i said, we agree'd it was cool in order to settle the score. If this is a big deal and im DQ'd so be it.

Alvarado wins by score of 3-2

(Ant-1 Alva-5)

Alvarado takes series 5-1
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YOU'RE FUCKIN OUTTA HERE

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so how does this work now, you guys get the first round byes and then youll play the winners of the first round in standard high seed/low seed format?
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didnt expect to make it out of round 2...but there has been an occasion or two where i have a +winning percentage against you in EB. Maybe i'll catch a break and pull the upset.
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Old 06-28-2010, 09:31 PM   #305
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And the most recent losers play eachother before moving on to the newest batch of losers.

You'll see. Read the old thread if you're intrested.
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Old 06-28-2010, 09:38 PM   #306
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a losers bracket? Whats the point?
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Old 06-28-2010, 09:44 PM   #307
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The point of it being double elimination is to give the "average" players a chance while still being fun.

Its not a lot of fun getting bounced first round aganst Kalyx.
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Old 06-28-2010, 09:45 PM   #308
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so the winner of the losers bracket gets thrown in as a wildcard for another chance to win?
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Old 06-28-2010, 09:50 PM   #309
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Old 06-28-2010, 09:57 PM   #310
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Old 06-28-2010, 10:00 PM   #311
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Do me a favor: shut the fuck up

This worked fine last year
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Old 06-28-2010, 10:02 PM   #312
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Nobody cares who the best loser is. Im sure to be ousted in the next round, and im fine with walking away and trying again next year or whatever.

They dont have losers brackets in the pros.

Your ideas are lame sauce Roxer, and you can go FUCK yourself. Hoe.
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Old 06-28-2010, 11:20 PM   #313
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Old 06-29-2010, 12:56 AM   #314
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Old 06-29-2010, 01:02 AM   #315
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You got it for 360? Let's play RIGHT FUCKING NOW. And grab a headset. I've been on a cold streak too in the last couple of days so fuck it.
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Old 06-29-2010, 01:16 AM   #316
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I am replacing Juan with Fignuts.

Congratulations Fignuts! You get to deal with Drakul's Zangief in the first round.
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Old 06-29-2010, 01:27 AM   #317
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youre just gonna oust Juan like that? Cold blooded.
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Old 06-29-2010, 01:28 AM   #318
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Or we could just not kick anyone out? Goddamn FuXeR.
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