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Old 09-05-2011, 11:51 PM   #1
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Ha. Del Rio gets the night off.
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So I guess this is the start of a Sheamus/Christian feud.
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We obviously know where this is going.
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This Cena going against the odds crap is really REALLY getting old...
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Cole talking about Sheamus thrusting his body off of the top rope was super unsettling
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Looks like a Christian/Sheamus program in the works...
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Ok. They can let the sunlight in now.
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Well there is Christian's next Smackdown fued.
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Oh great...Swagger and Ziggler...I know where this is going.
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I want Ziggler and Swagger to form a team callled Swiggler
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Wow that may be a record.

Cena and the writers managed to bury not one, not two but THREE wrestles in about 45 seconds.
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Cena and the writers managed to bury not one, not two but THREE wrestles in about 45 seconds.
No they didn't.
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Wow that may be a record.

Cena and the writers managed to bury not one, not two but THREE wrestles in about 45 seconds.


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It's not burying if it furthers a storyline
Look, I'm not normally a Cena hater and I really don't even know what th IWC is but really? He goes from being set up for a finisher to spinging out an AA.

Then he gets put in an ankle lock for over a minute, yet Swagger taps out in about ten seconds.

And for good measure, the same Cena who was in an 8 man tag hits an AA on the champion.

I'll give you it furthers the Swagger/Ziggler storyline. But it was just another example of the WWE writers almost having fun forcing a "Super Cena" down our throats, which is a shame, cuz Cena has been at his best playing more of a tweener with the Nexus and Punk angles.
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Look, I'm not normally a Cena hater and I really don't even know what th IWC is but really? He goes from being set up for a finisher to spinging out an AA.

Then he gets put in an ankle lock for over a minute, yet Swagger taps out in about ten seconds.

And for good measure, the same Cena who was in an 8 man tag hits an AA on the champion.

I'll give you it furthers the Swagger/Ziggler storyline. But it was just another example of the WWE writers almost having fun forcing a "Super Cena" down our throats, which is a shame, cuz Cena has been at his best playing more of a tweener with the Nexus and Punk angles.
Okay but where do you see the idea of THREE people getting buried in 45 seconds?
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Look, I'm not normally a Cena hater and I really don't even know what th IWC is but really? He goes from being set up for a finisher to spinging out an AA.

Then he gets put in an ankle lock for over a minute, yet Swagger taps out in about ten seconds.

And for good measure, the same Cena who was in an 8 man tag hits an AA on the champion.

I'll give you it furthers the Swagger/Ziggler storyline. But it was just another example of the WWE writers almost having fun forcing a "Super Cena" down our throats, which is a shame, cuz Cena has been at his best playing more of a tweener with the Nexus and Punk angles.
There was nothing new that happened at the end of this Raw. Doing just your finisher on the champion isn't a burial. There was no sign of "Super Cena" here.
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There was nothing new that happened at the end of this Raw. Doing just your finisher on the champion isn't a burial. There was no sign of "Super Cena" here.
Actually we just lost power here.

No sign of "Super Cena"? He overcomes 2 on 1 odds, beats both of them within 2 minutes of each other, and has enough juice left to hit a finisher on the WWE Champion. That's not "Super Cena"? Please.

The reason I say burying is this. Ziggler looks like a total jobber, you further diminish the fear of Swagger's finisher, and the WWE Champion is made to look weak.

It's the latter two I think it damages more. Both of them have image problems with a lof of fans and people on here.

Swagger is booked to be upper midcard yet his results are almost total jobber. Having him tap out mere seconds after his submission hold was on so long just further cemented his standing as a jobbing wuss.

Also, a lot of people think ADR isn't ready to be champion yet. It's an opinion echoed by many people. I still don't know how being fresh and trying to attack Cena, only to then be hit by his finisher and run away helps with that Champion credibility.

I love Del Rio and think he has a lot of talent, but if they book him wrong he could be the Christian version (was booked HORRIBLY as a champ) of Raw rather than an emerging true Main Eventer.

So in the case of Swagger (who desperately needs to look strong) and Del Rio (who needs to look like a serious champion) both got buried.
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I always made Swagger and Ziggler a team on the smackdown games. Hope they do eventually end up helping eachother. Not as an out and out tag team, but just as allies.
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I don't know.

I get the feeling that it's leading to a run for Ziggler as a face, leaving Vickie with Swagger.
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I don't know.

I get the feeling that it's leading to a run for Ziggler as a face, leaving Vickie with Swagger.
I welcome that idea. Swagger needs Vickie more than Ziggler does. It's hard to take him seriously with that lisp
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I don't know.

I get the feeling that it's leading to a run for Ziggler as a face, leaving Vickie with Swagger.
It makes sense to go this direction. But the way it's being booked, Ziggler is portraying the heel which is definitely weird. He's the one costing matches, acting selfish, abusive, etc.

Of the two, Swagger's been made to have the more "faceish" tendencies.

I mean, I guess it's nice he's in an angle, but it doesn't make a ton of sense thus far. At least Riley is out of it.
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