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Old 09-25-2012, 12:17 AM   #281
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Ugh.

This was the best RAW in weeks until the end.

Just ugh.

They have HIAC, SuSe, TLC, RR and EC before WM. They have to think long-term. You don't put the Goldberg rip-off in a feud with Punk unless he wins. If he doesn't it kills his push. If he does win it means he has to defeat Rock at the RR and go on to WM and face either Cena or Undertaker.

Ugh. I need Ibuprofen. So, so stupid.

What horrible booking.
FFS, it just started. They can easily have Ryback lose without killing his push. If anything, they need to have Ryback lose so they can get past the undefeated gimmick and actually start developing him into something more. You mean to tell me if Ryback looks like a fucking beast in Hell in a Cell in his first real marquee match against the WWE Champion and loses either by being heelishly outsmarted or some crazy finish that it would ruin him?

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Is it that hard to figure out how to book towards Punk/Rock, Cena/Taker and HHH/Lesnar?

Jesus.
Maybe...just maybe...WWE is going to do something unpredictable and different?
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:17 AM   #282
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Maybe that's not what they're planning.

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Old 09-25-2012, 12:18 AM   #283
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JAMES STEELE PROBABLY THOUGHT OF THAT
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:18 AM   #284
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:21 AM   #285
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They aren't subtle with their booking.

I hope, personally, he loses and goes the way of Tensai's push.

Big wrestlers who have "OMG POWER MOVES AND CAN'T BE BEAT" are boring because they focus on that rather than developing a personality for the individuals. I didn't care for Goldberg for the same reason.
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:23 AM   #286
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Maybe...just maybe...WWE is going to do something unpredictable and different?
Buyrates for the biggest show of the year? No. That will be planned out and while I prefer Rock/Punk, Cena/Taker and Lesnar/HHH I'm guessing we'll get saddled with Cena/Rock II and Taker/Lesnar.
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:56 AM   #287
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So is AJ getting fired for the slap or are they ignoring that Vickie situation?
Heyman isn't a current WWE employee. He's just an associate of Punk.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:17 AM   #288
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I'm not really KNOCKING Ryback. I just think it's too soon. Way too soon. Like, our collective reactions to Katlyn being in line for the "Everyone Wins This Once" Butterfly Belt division.
It's never too soon for a diva to get a title shot. lol. The division is a joke.

Ryback is dominant. He doesn't have to win the world title yet. There's nothing wrong with him suddenly being in the picture. It's a breath of fresh air. A new face that actually has some credibility and isn't just in it to get jobbed out to the "real" main eventers.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:29 AM   #289
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Tellin you guys though, they missed a golden opportunity to bring back Dude Love in that last segment.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:33 AM   #290
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Dunno guys. Prolly should watch more than a 10 second staredown before we break out our jump to conclusion mats.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:45 AM   #291
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:46 AM   #292
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:03 AM   #293
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Punk vs Sheamus was the dark main event Sheamus won by DQ after punk hit him with the title. Got brogue kicked from behind and had to be (kayfabe) dragged out of the arena.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:05 AM   #294
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Ugh.

This was the best RAW in weeks until the end.

Just ugh.

They have HIAC, SuSe, TLC, RR and EC before WM. They have to think long-term. You don't put the Goldberg rip-off in a feud with Punk unless he wins. If he doesn't it kills his push. If he does win it means he has to defeat Rock at the RR and go on to WM and face either Cena or Undertaker.

Ugh. I need Ibuprofen. So, so stupid.

What horrible booking.
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They didn't force their own hand into a Punk vs Ryback match. It simply planted the seed for Ryback in the main event. It could just as easily be a way of getting to Ryback vs Lesnar via Punk's Heyman link which would be a MUCH better option than Lesnar-HHH 2 at WrestleMania.

I'm usually the first one to talk about how shitty the booking it but this was an incredible way to end Raw. It introduces a new face into what was becoming, despite the PPV matches, a pretty bland 2 man main event scene. Not just a random new face but a face that is the most promising new face to be introduced to the main event scene in a long time. There's a ton of questions to answer and a ton of intrigue and to just jump to "UGH, HERE COMES PUNK VS RYBACK NOW. SO STUPID." is ridiculous.
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Old 09-25-2012, 03:22 AM   #298
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FFS, it just started. They can easily have Ryback lose without killing his push. If anything, they need to have Ryback lose so they can get past the undefeated gimmick and actually start developing him into something more. You mean to tell me if Ryback looks like a fucking beast in Hell in a Cell in his first real marquee match against the WWE Champion and loses either by being heelishly outsmarted or some crazy finish that it would ruin him?
Ryback definitely should not be losing though. Maybe Lesnar interfering and destroying him... leading to a few false finishes as he just won't stay down.

Even then though, the best option is to keep him looking unbeatable. He's fragile right now. They need to book him to where any loss he suffers is absolutely earth shattering and there's a really good reason for it.

Moot point though because I highly doubt that's where they're headed with this.
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Rhodes needs a character. The "disfigured" Cody Rhodes thing actually added some depth to him. Now he's kinda back to being CAWdy Rhodes and teaming him up with a guy who actually does have a great character isn't exactly gonna help.
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Team Hell-No was the best of the three. Team Friendship would have been funny for a little while, but "Hell No!" is a great combination phrases team name like Air Boom was.
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I've just remembered that Air Boom was chosen by the fans too.
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The WWE shouldn't be allowed to choose the 3 options.

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And yeah, Air Boom is a shitty name too. I don't remember the other options but I'm guessing it was something like...

A. KingBourne
B. Flying Wrestlers
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:34 AM   #306
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The other choices were:

Flight Club
Dreadlock & Load
Boom Raiders
The Wing Men
The Boom Squad
The Kingston Duo
Fly Guys
The Bourne Supremacy
Altitude Era
The Legion of Boom

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2011-08...urne-need-name

All were pretty bad names, but out of that list, I like Altitude Era.
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:39 AM   #307
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lol "The Kingston Duo" and "The Bourne Supremacy"

Completely shit on the other guy in the team.
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:42 AM   #308
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Bleh. I guess I would have gone with The Boom Squad.
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OH NO SOMEONE IS QUESTIONING THE POTENTIAL PUSH OF THE GREAT AND ALMIGHTY RYBACK GERTNER AND SHISEN KOPF ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BOTH HAVE CORONARIES RIGHT NOW
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:23 AM   #310
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The 2 people that jumped the barricade looked like deuche bags (head bands, face paint), one barely got over and was stopped right away.
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:46 AM   #313
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Maybe Ryback is a backup incase Cena isn't healed by Hell in a Cell, so they're getting him into the main event scene now?
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Ugh.

This was the best RAW in weeks until the end.

Just ugh.

They have HIAC, SuSe, TLC, RR and EC before WM. They have to think long-term. You don't put the Goldberg rip-off in a feud with Punk unless he wins. If he doesn't it kills his push. If he does win it means he has to defeat Rock at the RR and go on to WM and face either Cena or Undertaker.

Ugh. I need Ibuprofen. So, so stupid.

What horrible booking.
He's not a Goldberg rip off you fag. I hope someone drags you behind their truck.
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Why is everyone saying Ryback will face Punk at HIAC?
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They're assuming it because he came out at the end of RAW and stared Punk down, I'd be all for it tbh.
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Ryback hasn't had a (televised) match go longer than 2 minutes yet, don't blow your load too fast, WWE bookers!
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If it was a backstage segment, it wasn't shown to the people in the arena.
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