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Old 06-05-2013, 06:18 AM   #1
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Fable is bloody rubbish
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Old 06-05-2013, 06:21 AM   #2
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Fable II was good enough that I hold out hope for Fable IV but III has made me a bit unsure.
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Old 06-05-2013, 06:26 AM   #3
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Old 06-05-2013, 06:30 AM   #4
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Black and White was cool...wasn't it?
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'AAA Gamer' complaints. It wasn't innovative as F1 or great as F2 ergo it 'failed'.
It was plenty "innovative." Almost everything people hated about it was "innovation."

But in a day and age when getting a score in the 80s or only selling five million copies of a game can be considered a failure....

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Old 06-05-2013, 08:15 AM   #6
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Old 06-05-2013, 02:20 PM   #7
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My wife and kid just so happened to live in the town that was decimated before the final act. I never saw them again (most likely as a glitch, but fitting in a narrative way, I guess).
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Microsoft clarified a few things and stances regarding the Xbox One.

Need to verify the console at least once a day or else offline gaming gets locked out until the next verification time. The reason is due to the changes done to the patch and game id system which forces the check ins to be done.
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The used game fee system is now being considered as an optional feature similar to the PS4 if publishers want to enforce it or not. If the publisher doesn't want to do it, no fees are ever charged although still some restrictions.
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Clarified how game trading will work by saying there is a system in place that will allow loaning of games without needing extra fees and publishers can opt out of the general agreement to set up their own terms with retailers. The loaning and renting ability won't be available at launch though.
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In regards to Kinect, by default its always listening but not actually recording anything due to the need to hear the words "Xbox On."
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"If you don’t want the Kinect sensor on while playing games or enjoying your entertainment, you can pause Kinect. To turn off your Xbox One, just say 'Xbox Off.' When the system is off, it’s only listening for the single voice command -- 'Xbox On,' and you can even turn that feature off too. Some apps and games may require Kinect functionality to operate, so you’ll need to turn it back on for these experiences."
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:47 PM   #9
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Yeah, fuck that shit.
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:12 AM   #10
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I got about half way through Meatballs post before I thought the same as Kane Knight. I can live without playing Fable IV and any future (good) Rare game. Looks like it really is just the Wii U for me, this generation.
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:31 AM   #11
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Honestly, of all studios, Respawn Entertainment's Titanfall sounds pretty interesting to me.
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:39 AM   #12
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Still gonna keep an eye on how the PS4 progresses. WiiU purchase is inevitable, as local Wii multiplayer is a staple at our house.

But yeah, MS can go fuck themselves.
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Still gonna keep an eye on how the PS4 progresses. WiiU purchase is inevitable, as local Wii multiplayer is a staple at our house.

But yeah, MS can go fuck themselves.
Same here. I think Sony is going to do something similar though. if Activision, EA and UbiSoft all went up to Sony and said "Well, MS is going to give us this... What are you going to do?", they'd have to cave in.
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:19 AM   #14
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Same here. I think Sony is going to do something similar though. if Activision, EA and UbiSoft all went up to Sony and said "Well, MS is going to give us this... What are you going to do?", they'd have to cave in.

They've already pulled a "leave it up to the publisher" line well before Microsoft even announced their shitty policy.
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I got about half way through Meatballs post before I thought the same as Kane Knight. I can live without playing Fable IV and any future (good) Rare game. Looks like it really is just the Wii U for me, this generation.
Probably going to be a PC for me. I already bought a new PSU and graphics card, and I need to buy a new MoBo because the people who assembled my computer are lying whores and claimed it had a PCIe 16X in it and I was dumb enough to read the specs instead of look, and it looks like I need a new case because of the front connectors....

Fuck it, I'll have pretty much a new build by November. And since I already have two controllers for it, and will have an HDMI out, I'll just use it to play "console" games on my TV.
I'll probably stick with the 360 for multiplayer as long as it's a thing, unless Sony BLOWS ME AWAY.

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All they had to do was fuck up the least.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:45 AM   #18
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'Tis, but I've been calling this a race to the bottom for ages, so don't blame me for sticking to it.

Sony and Microsoft seem like they've been locked into an eternal (or at least, multi-generational) struggle to see who can come up with the shittiest idea. Nintendo seems capable of making its own stupid mistakes, but they don't seem to be trying to win a gold for the biggest shitstain.
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Old 06-07-2013, 04:07 PM   #19
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According to Giantbomb's sources, major publishers were pushing for months to have both Microsoft and Sony agree to an anti-used or fee system to be in place for their next gen consoles.

It also might explain why Microsoft and Sony both hinted its an optional system and not something mandatory for all publishers to use.

http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/ma...oli/1100-4659/


Could probably theorize that EA might have tried to push Nintendo to do something similar as part of their overall negotiations with them before it fell apart leading to the current ill will EA has with Nintendo.
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So this just happened today. Looks like the Xbone is going down in flames before it even got off the ground. Sony just needs to sit the fuck back and they've got this generation locked down. Also, this was not mine.. I haven't really been a supporter of anything in this next-gen till now. Gotta say, don't plan on buying one of these now, and will probably just go with PS4 only.
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While this big brother-esque institution that has popped up should be alarming; to think that Sony of America and Nintendo of America wouldn't follow suit given, adequate, pressure is laughable.
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While this big brother-esque institution that has popped up should be alarming; to think that Sony of America and Nintendo of America wouldn't follow suit given, adequate, pressure is laughable.
The difference is that Sony doesn't have an always-on listening and watching device with facial recognition that requires an internet connection at least once every 24 hours.
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The difference is that Sony doesn't have an always-on listening and watching device with facial recognition that requires an internet connection at least once every 24 hours.
That you know of.

Edit: God I hope you don't have a cell phone.
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Old 06-07-2013, 05:20 PM   #25
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Gonna need more than a meme on that one. Seems pretty big.
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Old 06-07-2013, 05:41 PM   #26
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About what? In Casual? Any link? Name of thread?

No offense but what kind of answer was that?
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Old 06-07-2013, 05:44 PM   #27
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About what? In Casual? Any link? Name of thread?

No offense but what kind of answer was that?
No offense taken. It was in casual, he has taken issue with Obama's invasions of privacy.

Here's an example:

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the govt is viewing all our emails/chats/photos/files/everything from every internet company

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...iants-nsa-data

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We provide customer data only when we receive a legally binding order or subpoena to do so*, and never on a voluntary basis. In addition we only ever comply with orders for requests about specific accounts or identifiers. If the government has a broader voluntary national security program to gather customer data we don’t participate in it.
*Like every company ever, essentially what Immortal alluded to.
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*Like every company ever, essentially what Immortal alluded to.
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And it certainly seems like every relevant company was in it for a while.
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I'm not saying the government doesn't have access already to any number of private facts about my life.

But it's practically inviting it to purchase a product thats defining feature is a mandatory peripheral that is always on, always listening for voice input, always looking for faces to recognize. Let's not forget that it -remembers- voices and faces, meaning it records information. And it requires an internet connection once every 24 hours to retain access to your games. Meaning it will always be connected, always available to upload data to Microsoft. Available to stream live if needed.


The possibilities are terrifying. Yeah, the NSA could be spying on any of us through our phones, emails, and computers. Sure. That's hardly our fault for purchasing or using technology that is almost a necessity if you live in a 1st world country. They could be doing it now for all I know.


It would be our fault however, to buy something we know is risky to begin with. Something we don't necessarily need, when there is an alternative product right across the aisle that DOESN'T claim to have these features.


Saying "You don't know that it doesn't" about the PS4 is dumb. People can buy the fucking things when they're out, open them up, and say "Hey guys, there's a camera here. And a microphone, holy shit." and the cat is out of the bag. Xbox is ADVERTISING it. Saying "Hey look what this does" while people keep saying "Um, I don't want it to do that. I want it to play games." which it doesn't even do well, if it requires an internet connection AND a peripheral just to work.
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Saying "You don't know that it doesn't" about the PS4 is dumb. People can buy the fucking things when they're out, open them up, and say "Hey guys, there's a camera here. And a microphone, holy shit." and the cat is out of the bag. Xbox is ADVERTISING it. Saying "Hey look what this does" while people keep saying "Um, I don't want it to do that. I want it to play games." which it doesn't even do well, if it requires an internet connection AND a peripheral just to work.
So what happens when they open up a PS4 and there's a camera? They haven't show the console

And how in the the hell do you know that the XBone doesn't play games well?
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So what happens when they open up a PS4 and there's a camera? They haven't show the console

And how in the the hell do you know that the XBone doesn't play games well?
1. I'll repeat that I think that is a dumb hypothetical. What would you do if you opened up your wallet and found a microphone stitched into it in such a way that if you removed it, your wallet fell apart and stopped working? You'd buy a different fucking wallet wouldn't you. If the PS4 has a camera and a microphone secretly built into it, I'd be just as outraged. I'm not trying to just bash the Xbox and praise Sony here. But it's dumb to use a question like "what if the other was just like it?" when there's no reason to think it is so far.


2. Requires a peripheral in order to work. A dumb gimmicky peripheral at that, that didn't catch on last generation and isn't going to catch on this generation at the rate they're going. Requires an internet connection once per 24 hours or will not work. Checks for an internet connection once every hour if you're on a different console. Was discovered today that part of their patent was for the camera, stating the kinect won't work if the face of the person playing is not visible when it checks. If this feature is included, there goes the idea of taping over the camera that some people had. Their anti-used games crusade is basically geared toward keeping people from playing games unless they buy them brand new.


There's basically a slew of features that will PREVENT people from playing games. These are not consumer friendly features. These are corporate-friendly features. If the challenge is "Which console is better for playing games on?" then PS4 wins hands down based on the current evidence. You mean I can just plug the fucking thing in and play? Deal.
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1. I'll repeat that I think that is a dumb hypothetical. What would you do if you opened up your wallet and found a microphone stitched into it in such a way that if you removed it, your wallet fell apart and stopped working? You'd buy a different fucking wallet wouldn't you. If the PS4 has a camera and a microphone secretly built into it, I'd be just as outraged. I'm not trying to just bash the Xbox and praise Sony here. But it's dumb to use a question like "what if the other was just like it?" when there's no reason to think it is so far.


2. Requires a peripheral in order to work. A dumb gimmicky peripheral at that, that didn't catch on last generation and isn't going to catch on this generation at the rate they're going. Requires an internet connection once per 24 hours or will not work. Checks for an internet connection once every hour if you're on a different console. Was discovered today that part of their patent was for a camera that won't work if the face of the person playing is not visible when it checks. If this feature is included, there goes the idea of taping over the camera that some people had. Their anti-used games crusade is basically geared toward keeping people from playing games unless they buy them brand new.


There's basically a slew of features that will PREVENT people from playing games. These are not consumer friendly features. These are corporate-friendly features. If the challenge is "Which console is better for playing games on?" then PS4 wins hands down based on the current evidence. You mean I can just plug the fucking thing in and play? Deal.
1. First off until all features are revealed we cannot rely on anything except hyptheticals, even dumb ones. Continuing who says it's just a secret and they're not just letting Microsoft take the hit until they bandwagon. There's no reason to think it isn't like the other thus far either.

2. Say hi to the immensely successful Wii, or any other console that requires a peripheral to play it i.e. a controller. Also, the 24 hour thing is nothing but spout from Phil Harrison.

Based on current evidence, I don't have enough evidence.
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Nah, they clarified the 24 hour thing officially. You do have to sign in.


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I'm really not trying to treat this like the console war of last generation either. I don't favor 360 or PS3 over one another. I own both, and a PC, and I like them all for different reasons. For different games. For playing with different people.

Microsoft is making this an easy choice for gamers though if this is what they've come up with this generation.
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I'm really not trying to treat this like the console war of last generation either. I don't favor 360 or PS3 over one another. I own both, and a PC, and I like them all for different reasons. For different games. For playing with different people.

Microsoft is making this an easy choice for gamers though if this is what they've come up with this generation.
Nor I, if I could buy both I definitely would. But that said I will probably end up buying the XBone. While continuing to invest more in the pc.
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While this big brother-esque institution that has popped up should be alarming; to think that Sony of America and Nintendo of America wouldn't follow suit given, adequate, pressure is laughable.
Retarded people are retarded.

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And how in the the hell do you know that the XBone doesn't play games well?
Pure fanboyism?
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How about we just say fuck consoles and all move to computer games?
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