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Old 11-17-2015, 06:38 PM   #281
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Podcast was great as always guys. I've been going through the archives like a madman. I would like to see you guys do a take on the ideal PPV calendar for WWE sometime.
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Old 11-17-2015, 09:12 PM   #282
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Old 11-17-2015, 09:15 PM   #283
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Hey, you said it.
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Old 11-17-2015, 09:42 PM   #284
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I would argue that an argument isn't necessarily arguing.
Of course.

We're making ARGUMENTS using facts, data, logic and reasoning. I.e., "The QUALITY of the writing/product is down, as shown by the decrease in television ratings, a decrease in live attendance and revenues, and a disappointing and substantially lower than expected television licensing revenue deal."

You're ARGUING using your emotions, opinions, suppositions, etc. I.e., "The QUALITY of the writing/product is fine because I'm enjoying it, plus revenues overall should increase to record levels this year due to the quality of the product but not as a result of the company expanding into more revenue streams than ever before the last few years."
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:37 PM   #285
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Of course.

We're making ARGUMENTS using facts, data, logic and reasoning. I.e., "The QUALITY of the writing/product is down, as shown by the decrease in television ratings, a decrease in live attendance and revenues, and a disappointing and substantially lower than expected television licensing revenue deal."

You're ARGUING using your emotions, opinions, suppositions, etc. I.e., "The QUALITY of the writing/product is fine because I'm enjoying it, plus revenues overall should increase to record levels this year due to the quality of the product but not as a result of the company expanding into more revenue streams than ever before the last few years."
Have I ever said ratings are up?

However, in your spin you managed to miss some points. WWE tries to deliver ratings in order to raise TV rights fees. They may not have got as much as they wanted (as Mr Burns said I would trade it all away for a little more), but their TV rights fees have never been higher. Context is always important. Ratings are down for most of TV, this is a trend that will not likely reverse, its the nature of changing habits of viewers. WWE is most weeks the 2nd or 3rd most viewed things on cable on Monday nights, one of the highest rated things on social media, WWE has more Network subs than they did this time last year, and best of all OVERALL REVENUES ARE UP! They could actually have their BIGGEST REVENUE GENERATING YEAR OF ALL TIME. Yes, this is partly due to additional revenue streams, but its also because they turned a dying revenue stream (PPV) and turned it into a rapidly growing revenue stream (VOD). Some would call that smart business moves, you call it, what? Failure. Cool.

None of that is emotion BTW.
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Old 11-18-2015, 12:00 AM   #286
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Old 11-18-2015, 03:23 AM   #287
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Podcast was great as always guys. I've been going through the archives like a madman. I would like to see you guys do a take on the ideal PPV calendar for WWE sometime.
Thanks very much dude, really appreciate that :-) . And that's a pretty interesting idea, will write that one down. May come back to it as a standalone episode or throw in as a discussion point on a mailbag show in future...
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Old 11-18-2015, 01:37 PM   #288
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In otherwords you have no counterpoint

Then somewhere you will say I never back up my arguments with facts.

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Old 11-18-2015, 05:17 PM   #289
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Yeah you totally got me there. I am pretty classic.
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Old 11-18-2015, 10:14 PM   #290
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In otherwords you have no counterpoint

Then somewhere you will say I never back up my arguments with facts.

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Yeah you totally got me there. I am pretty classic.
Oh, get a room, you two!
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Old 11-18-2015, 11:25 PM   #291
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:18 AM   #292
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In otherwords you have no counterpoint

Then somewhere you will say I never back up my arguments with facts.

Classic
I said you didn't back up your arguments with facts in another thread and even challenged/practically begged you to do so.

You replied with what pretty much amounted to "I did though!" despite the fact that the thread clearly showed to anyone with half a brain that you didn't.

So clearly that doesn't register with you.

So telling you how ridiculous you are in the most condescending way possible is really all people are left with.
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Old 11-19-2015, 01:56 PM   #293
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I said you didn't back up your arguments with facts in another thread and even challenged/practically begged you to do so.

You replied with what pretty much amounted to "I did though!" despite the fact that the thread clearly showed to anyone with half a brain that you didn't.

So clearly that doesn't register with you.

So telling you how ridiculous you are in the most condescending way possible is really all people are left with.
Are you still on about the Bella thing? If so I'll address in my thread. Sorry if I missed it. Please accept my apology
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Old 11-20-2015, 06:05 PM   #294
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Old 11-20-2015, 07:08 PM   #295
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Thanks very much dude, really appreciate that :-) . And that's a pretty interesting idea, will write that one down. May come back to it as a standalone episode or throw in as a discussion point on a mailbag show in future...
I hope the ideas I throw out don't sound expectant. Feel free to leave them, I'm just throwing out stuff that I'd personally enjoy for the sake of contributing where I can, haha.
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