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Because even if his character loses, he is still Brock Lesnar. Just like Kurt Angle, no matter how often he lost, he was still a gold medalist. Outside accomplishments like that will always give them more credibility than any scripted loss.
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Did I miss something? Heyman is no longer with lesnar now?
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If that's the case, then Heyman running away like a chicken shit heel doesn't make sense. If there was never a falling out, then you'd think he'd try to mediate rather than just run away.
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If you’re suspending disbelief and it wasn’t scripted then that would mean he’s been soundly defeated in recent years by midcarders. So his credibility suffers.
If you’re accepting it as being its own scripted world then the character he’s playing has been soundly defeated in recent years by midcarders. So his credibility suffers. If you want to ignore the scripted fights and only focus on the real ones then why the fuck should I care about his next scripted fight? No matter how you look at it, there’s a major problem. There’s no reason to buy into him as a threat in the very show they’re presenting anymore other than WWE simply telling you “OMG UNSTOPPABLE BEEEAST!!!!!” and counting on your gullibility. |
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They’re promoting scripted matches. If the results of his scripted matches don’t effect his character then why should anyone care about his scripted matches? This is a form of the “wins and losses don’t matter” mentality that has made WWE unwatchable.
They either matter or they don’t. You can’t have it both ways. |
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Nobody talking about Cena’s bald spot up in here? Dude almost as bald as Steve Austin!
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If his stock is not effected by wins and losses then wins and losses don’t matter. If wins and losses don’t matter then his matches don’t matter.
It’s fine to use his UFC history as part of his character but you don’t get to ignore the stuff you’ve actually booked and the story you’ve actually told in wrestling WITHIN wrestling. |
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If someone made a movie about Mike Tyson and throughout the movie Mike Tyson constantly gets his ass kicked in boxing matches by nobodies but everyone ignores it and still just promotes him as an unstoppable boxer would that be proper storytelling to you because “real life”?
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![]() Answer is because regardless how many losses he had, he still has those credentials, he knocked out all those people. Is this because of Punk? Do we have to ignore Brock's credentials in order to be able to ignore Punk being so terribly bad he got tickled by a part time photographer/announcer in an actual MMA fight? |
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Brock Lesnar will always be a badass combat athlete because he has earned that rep. Movie character Mike Tyson can lose, and actual Mike Tyson would still have earned the baddest man on the planet moniker. |
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I’d buy the “respect UFC Champions” line more if we didn’t all unanimously laugh Cain Velazquez out of the building.
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Also AEW had two UFC Heavyweight Champions on Dynamite so I guess we have to respect them too?
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Also also to clarify on the Gertner editing posts claim: Gertner has only edited or deleted Skeletor’s posts under his Noid sock. Gertner has not edited or deleted Skeltor’s posts under his Skeletor gimmick. Thanks.
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Naw that wasn't me. It was probably Slik.
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I literally have access to the moderator board which shows who has edited posts.
I come from a place of knowledge. |
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Mike Tyson is a former world heavyweight champion. We must respect him, and therefore AEW.
These rules are confusing but I guess we have to go with it. |
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Its the same thing ive already said, it matters, just not more than his actual credentials.
Kurt Angle lost his last match to Baron Corbin, we all thought that was dumb. That said, if Kurt showed up in lets say Impact, so as not to get any "but AEW" anger, would fans pop and want to see him, or would they shit on it because he lost to Baron Corbin? |
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I may regret this because it’ll probably just muddle things more.... but fuck it. Gonna try to kill two birds with on stone.
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Also, why was it dumb for him to get beaten quickly by Corbin? Job him to whoever. Who cares? He’s still Kurt Angle. |
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Sure, he could come back to WWE and if he is able to go, I would have no problem with him having a match with Reigns. And it wasnt dumb that he lost to Corbin, it was dumb that he lost his retirement match. |
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I see xrod is still jobbing to fan and either refusing to answer a question or exposing his lack of reading comprehension
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Why can’t you actually answer the question I asked? It’s pretty telling.
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I wanna see what they’re gonna do with Belair. They can’t undo such an awful moment, and I don’t think it’s going to galvanize the fans to get behind her the way it did with Daniel Bryan, but I do wanna see how they try to talk their way around it if they do or Bianca is just pushed to the back of the line while Becky starts steamrolling the rest of the division.
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Holy shit, dude. That’s not the question. Let me quote the question for a 3rd time...
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That does not answer the question.
Why is answering a simple yes or no question so fucking hard for you? |
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This is why attempts at a discourse with you devolve into people just insulting your reading comprehension or just calling you dumb. At least it did when people still tried to engage you. Now it’s just my stubborn ass here pulling teeth.
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Lesnar has lost to Cena, Rollins, Taker, Reigns and McIntyre during his run. One of those guys is retired, two of them are working in the midcard and failed at being top babyfaces and aren’t anywhere near the title picture, one was already a star and even bigger now they didn’t need to beat him to get there while the other needed a complete character change to get where he was supposed to be 6 years ago.
Lesnar is an amazing talent that’s been wasted to help create new stars through no fault of his own. |
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