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Old 04-30-2006, 11:31 AM   #1
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To be fair, the only reason it's "You lose" is because two CPU players will always mash the buttons faster. They will also be more skillfull at escapes and such. So it doesn't much matter. In fact, the Casket bar almost always seems to fail (I usually get bored and put them in with the casket finisher) in a BA match, sleepers almost always fail (Though they should, as I don't think anyone in recent history has lost to one, so they shouldn't even be in the game), and so on.
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Old 04-30-2006, 07:37 PM   #2
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Personally, I hate all the fucking minigames and shit. I like the submission system, but they have been wanting to make EVERYTHING a minigame.
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Old 04-30-2006, 08:40 PM   #3
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Personally, I hate all the fucking minigames and shit. I like the submission system, but they have been wanting to make EVERYTHING a minigame.
So yeah, I agree.

Most of the minigames are stupid. I hate the start of match ones the most.

The sub system should be like DoR's but done better. I like the rest/drain/taunt/submit options. Being able to do rest holds or sap their spirit was excellent.
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I don't know if this has already been suggested, (too lazy to read all 8 pages) but we should be able to customise the rosters' attire, facial hair etc. (a la No Mercy) so we can keep these characters looking up to date. That's one thing I miss about the old N64 games, one example, you have a clean shaven Triple H in SvR2006 when he's had a handlebar mustache for over a year. It would be pretty cool to be able to just add one on to him.
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I don't know if this has already been suggested, (too lazy to read all 8 pages) but we should be able to customise the rosters' attire, facial hair etc. (a la No Mercy) so we can keep these characters looking up to date. That's one thing I miss about the old N64 games, one example, you have a clean shaven Triple H in SvR2006 when he's had a handlebar mustache for over a year. It would be pretty cool to be able to just add one on to him.
It's been mentioned, but here's the recap:

The reason they don't do that is that the characters are pre-rendered (Which doesn't need to be done anymore) and that it takes too much space to store changes to the entire roster (Which is nonsense, since it was done on XBox...). With all the space on newer systems, it should be rather easy to accomodate all this, especially since the PS3 will have a fucking HDD (as does the 360).

You can make wrestlers look good without pre-rendering the forms these days.
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Pre-rendered characters really don't need to be done, you're right, KK. If CAWs can look better than the existing characters, they can ALL be CAW-based, like No Mercy was, and updating could be possible. And not just appearances...moves, entrance attire, entrance stuff, stats, everything.

Oh, and TONS more buyable stuff, like extras. More, MORE, MORE!!!
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Old 05-01-2006, 10:26 AM   #7
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Yeah, DoR characters were pretty much as good as regular wrestlers out of the box. They need to make the shit both easy to modify and good looking.

And then make the roster CAW-based.
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Yeah I agree, but once again you will get people that think they are cool by changing Triple H to look like Samoa Joe or some shit like that. I dont think WWE want TNA wrestlers in their games.
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Old 05-01-2006, 09:54 PM   #9
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Yeah I agree, but once again you will get people that think they are cool by changing Triple H to look like Samoa Joe or some shit like that. I dont think WWE want TNA wrestlers in their games.
Then they should probably take CAWs out entirely.
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That's not true. They don't care who you put it in and that's why they let you put CAWs in there now. The only difference is that you can't take out the original wrestlers.
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No thats not what I meant, I meant by doing so now there is no Triple H in the game. So if I didn't like say Eugene being in the game I could change him so he looks like Golddust or something like that. Now if I did that then there would be no Eugene in the game but Golddust instead.
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No thats not what I meant, I meant by doing so now there is no Triple H in the game. So if I didn't like say Eugene being in the game I could change him so he looks like Golddust or something like that. Now if I did that then there would be no Eugene in the game but Golddust instead.
So? That's the way the N64 games worked. Once people came and went, I'd replace The Kat with, say, Stacy Keibler (2001).
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Then a compromise...only allow the attire and certain morphs to be altered, but not the facial textures.
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Then a compromise...only allow the attire and certain morphs to be altered, but not the facial textures.
Yeah, most people won't really change height or weight (that much).

You could alter hair, facial hair, outfits, and such.

Or we could have complete control anyway, but it probably won't happen.
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Yeah I'm not saying its all that bad. But I'm sure they want allow it because WWE don't want their own wrestlers replaced by TNA superstars.
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Yeah I'm not saying its all that bad. But I'm sure they want allow it because WWE don't want their own wrestlers replaced by TNA superstars.
I'm sure they didn't want their WWF superstars replaced with Sting or Goldberg, either. They still had games where they could do it though.
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Nah...one could argue that Vince wouldn't have wanted No Mercy 64 players to replace anybody with WCW guys...but it happened all the time. You'd see formulas for the nWo and whatnot.
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Instead of the minigames they should have pre match stare downs and playing to the crowd and such. To add to the realism. Just some animations that do different things.
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I STILL don't like the selling of punches. It's cartoonish for the most part.

And I wouldn't midn settling for altering only hair, facial hair, outfits, muscle mass, etc. if Vince was so concerned with keeping his stars in their spots.
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I'd settle for that, but since that's not really the reason they don't do it...

It's a nice intellectual compromise, just a moot one.
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It'll eventually happen. Didn't they do it for Raw/Raw2? I mean the games sucked horribly, but they had a lot of ideas that I'm sure will eventually trickle into the other games...If SVR07 doesn't have uploadable CAW themes for at least the XBox platforms and PS3, I swear to God I'm gonna scream.
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For the millionth time, counter high-flying moves at the point of the other player pressing the button; NOT WHEN THEY LAND ON YOU.

The only way I could hit any special flying move is if the other player wants to see it happen. Which is retarded. Me and my friends had this thought for years now.
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Hopefully they're not, or the roster will seem 5 men shorter.
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Old 05-04-2006, 10:51 AM   #31
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Hopefully they're not, or the roster will seem 5 men shorter.
That's what I said back on page 2 or so. But Vince seems to be high on them, so they're probably in, taking up 5 new spots all at the same time.
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Old 05-04-2006, 03:48 PM   #32
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That's what I said back on page 2 or so. But Vince seems to be high on them, so they're probably in, taking up 5 new spots all at the same time.
I honestly doubt it.
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With the higher power of the PS3 and 360 I don't see why all five could be in. I would rather they be in instead of retarded jobbers like Scotty 2 Hotty, Bob Holly etc
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With the higher power of the PS3 and 360 I don't see why all five could be in. I would rather they be in instead of retarded jobbers like Scotty 2 Hotty, Bob Holly etc
Exactly. I just hope they don't make them all identical.
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Exactly. Besides, if we're talking about a game that's potentially big enough to hold the entire roster anyway, who cares how many slots they take up? I'd rather play as Mikey than Johnny Parisi, Kenny than Coach, Johnny than Bob "One-Armed Bandit" Holly.
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But guys, that's IF they take advantage of the higher capacity and have a larger roster. They could easily fuck it up.
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But guys, that's IF they take advantage of the higher capacity and have a larger roster. They could easily fuck it up.
Shhh...If they're retarded enough to think that they needed a bigger disc to get in a bigger roster, you're not going to be able to convince them otherwise.

See, this "potemntially fit the whole roster" thing has been going on since the move to the PS2 in Smackdown games. Because it was true. However, every time we get a new Smackdown, we get a limited roster and excuses of storage limitations, time constraints, etc.

On top of that, what the fuckwits are forgetting is The X-Factor: XBox (And the PS2). It's severely unlikely that you will greatly different rosters on each disc, and the 360 still uses DVDs. But again, don't try and argue, they could "potentially" have CAW attires for every wrestler in the game. They could "potentially" have an 80 wrestler roster.

The end result, however, is almost a guarantee that they will give us slightly more of everything. This isn't a new wrestling game, it's an update. We'll get a few more wrestlers, a few more match modes, and maybe some of the features we've been clammoring for. But they only introduce one or two big changes per update, and they don't want to give us a huge roster, because that ups expectations for next time too.

but hey, why let limitations get in the way of explaining why we should have a full roster (Except boring old bobcore and the Strawman Coach)
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1 arm holly?
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He's in danger of losing his arm.
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o yeah i knew he was home seriously ill but when i saw that i thought he had his arm amped or something...
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