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Old 04-30-2006, 02:53 AM   #281
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Thats about 5 and 4 yards a carrie. He need every bit of those carries to accumulate those yards. 4.8 is pretty slow. Emmitt Smith was considered slow. I think Bettis rana 4.6 or 7. I think your first rounder will be a bust . Your 2nd rounder might be a star.
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Also I dunno where RP gets his info but Maroney ran a 4.47 at his pro day workout.
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Oops sorry he got 262 yards rushing (43 carries) in the game before the Ohio State game (Wisconsin)

He had 25 carries for 127 againest OSU also had a 46 carry game againest Purdue (217 yards)
Yeah and he was the only 100 yard rusher against the Bucks this year.
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They got a solid WR in the first round and a good RB in the second. They should be pumped.
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Thats about 5 and 4 yards a carrie. He need every bit of those carries to accumulate those yards. 4.8 is pretty slow. Emmitt Smith was considered slow. I think Bettis rana 4.6 or 7. I think your first rounder will be a bust . Your 2nd rounder might be a star.
5 yards a pop is bad now? If anything that shows that his 200 yards wasn't a fluke off some 88 yard run or something.

Ohio State had one of the best defenses in the nation last year, and he wasn't exactly playing with a all star team up in Minnesota. He was still able to put up huge numbers despite that.
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I don't know why the Packers traded that pick to NE where they took Jackson. The Packers shoulda taken Chad Jackson THEN trade Walker to the Broncos for the next pick..so they woulda had back to back picks and a replacment for Walker already..idiots
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They drafted Greg Jennings who is a pretty good WR. He'll start playing real quick.
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Also what the fuck is wrong with Arizona? They aren't supposed to be the ones who draft four 1st round level players.
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Anybody care to explain why St Louis would draft more than one TE (could say the same for the Pats actually, although they have actually, you know, proved they know what they're doing most of the time) I'd love to hear it
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Pretty boring Seahawk draft. Filled a few needs but no shockers like we're used to. Taking USC's FB was stupid though, I forget his name.
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I think I heard Kiper said he was the best FB in the draft, unless it was someone else. And Strong is gettin old.
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Strong is getting old, and that is why we have Weaver. Kirtman is not a dominant blocker and can't carry the ball at all so why waste a pick on him? He's the kind of guy you would use a 7th round pick on, there were still many players remaining that could have helped us alot more than this guy.
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Yeah, kind of a draft overall
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lol yeah, there was a TON of hype and nothing really that cool happened.
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The Miz, I hate to rub it in, but what position was Vince Young drafted to play?
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Hodge was stupid throughout the whole draft.
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I've said all along he'd be drafted as a QB. I said he wouldn't succeed there, and if he does succeed in the NFL, it will be at a different position.
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Vince Young is a really bad passer, and has a terrible arm. He is great in college because he is an excellent running QB. He has no chance to be a QB at the NFL level.
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Yeah he does. Texas passing game is a short passing attack, lots of screens and quick slants and such. Any throw longer than 25 yards Young floats it. He can get away with it play against Big 12 defenses, not NFL ones.
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Yeah I was thinking he would try the NFL as a WR, but isn't he pretty big? Maybe he could play TE, I have no idea how his blocking and pass catching skills are though. I just know he's a good athlete and might be able to find a place to play. I guarantee you he will not start an NFL game at QB though.

Technically your position still stands, he is yet to start a game at quarterback. That being said, I think some NFL scouts had some differing opinions.
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Yea but nowhere in those posts did he say Vince was going to be drafted at a position other than QB. He assumed he would be better off at another position. Vince better hopes he makes it at QB because he isn't fast enough to play wide out. Plus nobody was really on Young's nuts until he tore apart USC's D in the Rose Bowl.

Young ran the most basic offense ever at Texas, it was pretty much check this one route or run - everything out of the gun. One team asked all 3 top rated QBs the same question (From SI) What play is your favorite on 3rd and 4? Young talked about a basic base play from Texas, Culter picked a played with 3 route options and Leinhart said he couldn't decided between 8 different plays. Personally I think that says a lot.
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Talking about how big of an arm a QB has is pretty overrated to me. Considering the longest deep ball a QB usually has to throw is 45 yards. Thats not that long of a throw. Vince Young will be a star for the Titans.
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Even if Young's arm is adequate for the NFL that doesn't mean he'll be able to read defenses. He also said in an interview that most of his running plays were called passing plays that he improvised.

Plus Skip Bayless called Young a hall of famer so if that's not proof he's going to fail I dunno what is.
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Hey Vince, what was the score to the Rose Bowl and how many total yards did you have?

41-38. 467.

Pretty bad move by him to take the test lightly, though.
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Yeah I am not doubting his ability at all. He is spectacular. I am seriously doubting how well he does in the NFL though. Reggie is gonna own people.
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Tim Biakabutuka had 313 yards rushing againest Ohio State in 1995.
He also was getting like 8 ypc in the NFL but got hurt every other game. Had he been able to stay healthy, he would have put up HOF numbers. It got too much so he was cut and never had a chance. Though he was getting old by the time the Panthers finally gave up on him. Still... One game he had like 13 ypc. Total monster.

As per Maroney... the guy the Colts were salivating over. Pats got him, now RP is saying he's going to be a bust. That's pretty sweet right thurr. Maybe he will be a bust. I don't think he's as good as advertised, and I'm a MN guy. He was a system HB who just happened to have more speed than Tapeh or Barber. That means after that initial burst, he could stretch the play for an extra 10. Also, he was playing with the Gophers line in its prime. I don't think MN will see a line as good as it was last year. And Mason said that Maroney's problem was he was looking for the home run. If you look up-field and don't concentrate on making the most of your run, you won't succeed in the NFL.

But LOL@me not seeing this thread.
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Old 05-02-2006, 12:24 PM   #316
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Yeah I guess that's true. When Biakabutuka started 11 games he gained around 700 yards. Still though, just becuase a dude has big games in college doesn't mean he will turn out to be a success in the NFL. I'm just not sold on Young because many people didn't feel he was going to be a good NFL pro until post-Rose Bowl, kinda funny how one game can change a guys NFL prospects.
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Regardless of his college stats or his athletic ability, the only reason I think Young will be a bust because he won't be able to read NFL defenses and if you can't do that then you'll never be a good QB.
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The reason the Miz and I started on this when we did last December is because outside of this board I have never heard anybody imply that Vince was more of a prospect at a different position than QB. I am in a Big 12 school and have seen Vince play this year, and the idea that he would be drafted as a WR didn't even exist. I'm not saying that he will be a great quarterback, I am just saying that I've never heard people so adamant that he can't play QB outside of this board.
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I might've said somewhere along the way that Vince will never pan out as an NFL QB, because I sure have held that opinion ever since he really took off. I frequent some college football boards quite often, so I might be confusing here with those places.
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