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Old 01-22-2007, 08:10 PM   #281
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Have you seen Richards live? I wasn't sold until I saw him in Chi-Town a few months back. Much more impressive live than on tape.

HOLY SHIT. Just now read that I get to see Joe & Cide vs. Morishima & Nigel on 2/24. BAD ASS.
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no, this will be the first time i get to see him live. i'm hoping he has the same effect on me that he did you. that tag team match sounds amazing btw.
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Davey Richards is the man.
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Old 01-23-2007, 01:26 AM   #284
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It's official...

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RING OF HONOR TO RUN FIRST SHOWS IN JAPAN THIS SUMMER
by Mike Johnson @ 10:35:00 AM on 1/22/2007


Ring of Honor will make its debut this summer in Japan, it was announced this morning. ROH official Syd Eick traveled to Japan for the official announcement. The promotion will run joint shows on 7/16 in Tokyo with Pro Wrestling NOAH and 7/17 in Osaka with Dragon's Gate.

ROH has had working agreements with both companies over the past several years, sending talent overseas and hosting a number of Japanese stars including Kenta Kobashi, CIMA, KENTA, Naomichi Marufuji, and Dragon Kid among others. ROH hosted the first-ever American title defense of Pro Wrestling NOAH's Global Honored Crown championship last September in New York City. The Briscoe Brothers and Nigel McGuinness, among others have toured with NOAH. Jimmy Rave, Austin Aries, Jack Evans, and Roderick Strong have toured with Dragon's Gate.

Sports Navi in Japan theorized that this may lead to a "Supershow" with all three promotions working together, but that is just conjecture at this point
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Old 01-23-2007, 01:32 AM   #285
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Personally, I hope KENTA wins the ROH strap this year. I think he deserves it.
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Supershow with ROH NOAH and DG would be sex.
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I'm pulling for Nigel. I wouldn't mind KENTA, as he is amazing, but Nigel is my boy.
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Personally, I hope KENTA wins the ROH strap this year. I think he deserves it.
I don't know if I agree with this or not.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to KENTA winning the ROH strap, but saying he deserves it, IMO, is a stretch. I mean, ROH has basically let him come in and steamroll over most of their talen he's fought... The matches have been great, but I don't think KENTA should be given the belt unless NOAH is willing to let KENTA lose more often. That way the ROH guys won't look weak with just one or two ROH guys looking good by eventually beating him.


Those Japan shows will be amazing. The only sad part is that SUWA is now retired and won't be around for them...
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Old 01-23-2007, 01:42 AM   #289
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I could see Nigel or Rave holding the belt this year... Maybe Hero too.
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Yeah, he has only lost one match, but to say he's steamrolled over all his opponents is stretching it. He's made evryone he's faced look strong. Stronger than some of his opponents in Noah have looked.
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I'm not saying he didn't make them look strong. I'm just saying it's not a good idea for someone who isn't actually a member of your roster to beat tons of people on your roster without them getting wins back.

Right now it's not bad, because there's reason to believe in a rematch, people like Aries, Strong, Sydal, Richards, etc, could win. However if KENTA went back and just beat them again and again, no matter how strong they looked, I don't think it would help ROH....

It's not just KENTA, that's just my issue with companies bringing in talent from other companies... (Unless you're TNA and fuck over everyone you bring in.)
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With that said, the ROH/Dragongate relationship has been done amazingly well, and no one has looked bad.

Plus, props to NOAH for their treatment of the Briscoes and Danielson.
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I think thats actually a great reason to put the strap on him. You have guys like Nigel and Rave who are on the verge of being permanant main eventers. I still don't see them on the same level as guys like AmDrag, Joe, or Lo-ki. A win for the title against an invader who has been almost unbeatable, would completely cement them at the top.
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I can see (and agree with) and argument against Rave not being at that point, but Nigel has more than proved himself as ROH Championship material. The man is a fucking workhorse with an incredible moveset.

I do like the "win the belt from the invader" scenario, though. First of all, KENTA winning the title would be huge. Off the charts. It's not that no one would see it coming; it would just be incredible to see. And the guy that would take it off of him would definitely get a solid rub, being the man to bring the belt "back home."

Whichever way the title scene plays out, I'm sure that it'll be spectacular.
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KENTA can even wave around his craaaaaazy passport to get cheap heel heat.
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I think thats actually a great reason to put the strap on him. You have guys like Nigel and Rave who are on the verge of being permanant main eventers. I still don't see them on the same level as guys like AmDrag, Joe, or Lo-ki. A win for the title against an invader who has been almost unbeatable, would completely cement them at the top.
That's fine, as long as KENTA isn't reeled back in by NOAH afterwards. I don't care who he beats, as long as he has some losses as well. They don't have to be immediate. Ala, KENTA winning the title, being unbeatable, losing it to... let's say Nigel... wrestling a few more matches, winning a few, losing a few, is fine.

Him being unbeatable for a bit, losing once, and vanishing, IMO, hurts. Not terribly, but it does.

For example, I'm willing to bet one of the reasons Danielson was treated so well in NOAH has to do with the fact that he beat KENTA, and people in Japan saw it. NOAH didn't want to make him look weak since he beat KENTA, plus they could build him up for a rematch.

However, if someone like Aries went to NOAH, NOAH has no real incentive to give him wins, since he hasn't beaten anyone major on their roster (tag match vs KENTA I'm not counting since KENTA didn't take the fall), so Aries losing in NOAH doesn't make anyone in NOAH look bad.


Back to my original point, take the LEsnar NJPW situation. Came in, took the money, beat a bunch of people, left undefeated... NJPW lost huge in that deal. KENTA winning is fine. KENTA only losing being beaten once before leaving, not as fine.

Of course, this is assuming he's back for an extended run again.
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Also, while it will NEVER happen, I would kill to see KENTA Vs CIMA.
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Honestly, the only way I see that match happening is if ROH/Dragongate/Noah do a joint show, and they have something like

CIMA/Marufuji/Jack Evans Vs Doi/KENTA/Davey Richards

That match would be fucking immense.
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Also, while it will NEVER happen, I would kill to see KENTA Vs CIMA.
Why not?
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Both are huge names in their respective company, and are pretty damn popular in both the Japanese and American wrestling scene.

Essentially, NOAH and DG management would probably never decide on who would win.

You MIGHT see it if there were other matches before or after it, either a rematch between the two, or other matches on the same card, ala Marufuji Vs Dragon Kid, or something of that sort. However, the fact that NOAH and Dragongate don't really work together much as it is, the chances of this match happening are really slim.
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Exactly why we need a new super J-cup.

Last one was beyond horrible.
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They had KENTA, Lyger, CIMA, Heat, delfin, Taka, Jinsei, and billy ken kid on the show, but none of them were in the tournament. Instead you had a bunch of sub-par up and comers, and Marufuji.

The logic is mind-boggling.
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Also, while it will NEVER happen, I would kill to see KENTA Vs CIMA.
I don't know, wouldn't Yoshino vs KENTA be more exciting to watch?
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I don't know, wouldn't Yoshino vs KENTA be more exciting to watch?
Either would be great, I just prefer Doi a bit more.

Plus, I mark for the bakatare sliding kick
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Old 01-23-2007, 05:38 PM   #306
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I don't know, wouldn't Yoshino vs KENTA be more exciting to watch?
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Old 01-23-2007, 10:59 PM   #307
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Heh, I get the feeling that someone would really enjoy that match.
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Old 01-25-2007, 02:58 PM   #308
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FYI Kev

Dragon's Gate announced today in Japan that they would be sending CIMA, Masaaki Mochizuki, Susumu Yokosuka, Dragon Kid, Ryo Saito, Genki Horiguchi, and Shingo Takagi to the Ring of Honor events in Detroit, Michigan on 3/30 and 3/31 during Wrestlemania 23 weekend.

Dragon's Gate sent many of the same talents to last year's ROH events in Chicago the weekend of Wrestlemania 22. That led to one of the best matches of 2006, a six man tag featuring Blood Generation of CIMA & Naruki Doi & Masato Yoshino vs. Do Fixer of Ryo Saito & Genki Horiguchi & Dragon Kid during ROH's "Supercard of Honor" event.
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Old 01-25-2007, 03:31 PM   #309
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Old 01-25-2007, 03:32 PM   #310
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btw I would love to go to the Mania doubleshot, but I'm thinking I'm gonna be wayyyyyyy to busy that weekend
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Old 01-25-2007, 03:34 PM   #311
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I just heard, fucking badass, and i'm going to be at both rows in the 2nd row. Slickness. I'm so fucking glad I opted for better seats to this and said fuck WM.
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Old 01-25-2007, 03:35 PM   #312
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Do it Blitz, it will be amazing.
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Old 01-25-2007, 04:11 PM   #313
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Why do I keep thinking Yoshino retired?
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Old 01-25-2007, 05:55 PM   #314
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the Ring Of Honor matches off of video.google are incredible...last night i saw Low-Ki vs. Kenta and it was wild.just a ridiculously good match. I'd appreciate any matches that could be found being posted here.
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Old 01-25-2007, 06:41 PM   #315
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Believe me Kev, I'd love to go. But I just flat out won't have the time.
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Old 01-26-2007, 12:27 AM   #316
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:02 AM   #317
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I know. But it's gonna be crazy round here that week.
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:04 AM   #318
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Why do I keep thinking Yoshino retired?
He didn't. You're thinking of Doi, who hurt his eye, and "faked" his retirement.
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Old 01-26-2007, 07:45 AM   #319
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I knew it was one of them
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