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Old 11-17-2006, 06:49 PM   #281
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I don't know if I'd like Proctor as a starter either. Doesn't sound right to me.
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Old 11-17-2006, 06:54 PM   #282
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I wonder who will set up Mariano next year. Farnsworth makes big money but he was mediocre in the role. I think Brian Bruney will set up Rivera with Farnsworth taking Proctor's role, if Proctor moves out of the pen. I wonder if we'll resign Dotel.
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Another auction is up and running for a japanese pitcher. Named Kei Igawa.

Here's the details and stats.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2666306
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A few tidbits today.

The Reds may be grabbing Alex Gonzalez for a three year $14 mil. deal.

Mets are taking a look at Moises Alou.
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Following up:

According to The Associated Press, Moises Alou will get a one-year deal worth $8 million-$9 million from the Mets.

According to ESPN's Peter Gammons, the Reds and Alex Gonzalez have agreed to terms on a three-year, $14 million contract, pending a physical.

According to FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal, a rival executive said the White Sox are about to trade Jon Garland.

Dodgers announced the retirement of third baseman Bill Mueller.
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Old 11-19-2006, 03:31 AM   #286
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You know, when Moises Alou is getting paid 9 million a year, theirs definetly a problem.
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Big trade rumor.

Padres get: SS Miguel Tejada, LHP Oliver Perez, RHP Aaron Heilman

Orioles get: SS Khalil Greene, OF Lastings Milledge, 1B Michel Abreu

Mets get: RHP Jake Peavy, RHP Scott Linebrink

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It sounds good to me. Though I'm assuming the Mets only make the move if Alou is signed. Though I am concerned. Peavy had a pretty bad season. He's only 25, but maybe the Pads know something about his arm that other teams don't
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Old 11-19-2006, 12:05 PM   #288
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What about Bruney or Villone as set-up for Mariano?
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Old 11-19-2006, 12:16 PM   #289
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That trade is so big that I just can't believe it. Also, I don't know a lot about prospects, but unless Michael Abreu is a pretty good prospect, the Orioles kind of get hosed.
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I dunno, don't really see that happening. Doesn't seem like something the Orioles would do, they apparently rejected Tejada for Oswalt before I think? Can't see them only wanting Greene and a couple prospects back.
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I doubt that trade goes off. The Mets are losing all of their young talent. If they think Moises Alou is the answer in left field they're wrong. Alou is underrated, but he's a horrible fielder and coming off a few injury plagued seasons. He should be primarily a DH now.

The Mets aren't gaining that much. Heilman should be AT LEAST as good as Linebrink next season, is 2 years younger and can start. Peavy is a great pitcher, no doubt, but he's inconsistent, though he's only 25. Oliver Perez has the POTENTIAL to be as good as Peavy as he showed in 2004 (12 W, 2.98, 238 K's).

I'd definitely be a lot more comfortable with Peavy in the rotation, but I don't know if it's worth losing Milledge and Heilman, especially when Perez is the same age as Peavy and has ace potential too, though he's coming off 2 awful seasons.

I can't see the Orioles accepting that for Tejada either.

The Padres would be the real winner there. Tejada, Heilman and Perez? Shit. 2 young starters and arguably the best shortstop in baseball?
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Some more news and rumors (Rotoworld):

"A source confirmed to the Baltimore Sun that the Orioles and Braves have had trade discussions involving Tim Hudson. The source said the Orioles want to hold on to Adam Loewen but discussed a package of prospects that included Hayden Penn. The Orioles would likely have to swallow Hudson's entire contract and give up another quality prospect or two (Nolan Reimold?) to land Hudson."

Hudson is definitely worth a gamble, considering the other arms out there.

"The Reds and Mike Stanton have reportedly agreed to terms on a two-year deal with a vesting option for a third year."

Wasn't too long ago that he was complete garbage.

"Free agent Joe Borowski said Boston is one of the teams expressing interest in him and that he'd like to play for the Red Sox."

lol, that should solve your closer-woes, Boston.

"According to ESPN's Peter Gammons, the Angels are set to sign Justin Speier to a four-year contract."

This could mean Scot Shields will be traded for a big bat.
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Hmm, not sure on Hudson, I guess he's worth a gamble but it could be quite an expensive one if they're taking his whole contract on.
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HOLY SHITTTTTT

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CHICAGO -- The Chicago Cubs' ownership is showing new manager Lou Piniella that they are serious about winning.
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Chicago radio station ESPN 1000 reported Sunday that the Cubs have agreed to an eight-year contract worth approximately $136 million with outfielder Alfonso Soriano.
The move would clearly mark the highlight in an already busy offseason for the Cubs, who have signed free-agent infielder Mark DeRosa and have re-signed third baseman Aramis Ramirez and righthander Kerry Wood.
But the biggest prize is Soriano, who is coming off an outstanding all-around season for the Washington Nationals in which he hit .277 with 46 home runs and 95 RBI. The 30-year-old ranked third in the National League in homers and also stole 41 bases -- the sixth-highest total in the circuit.
After complaining in spring training about having to move from second base to left field, Soriano blossomed in his new surroundings. He led the league with 22 outfield assists, six more than his closest competitor, and displayed respectable range for a converted infielder.
Soriano became the first player in baseball history with 40 home runs, 40 stolen bases and 20 outfield assists in a single season. He also became the first member of the 40-40-40 club, which encapsulates homers, stolen bases and doubles.
An All-Star in each of the last five years, Soriano owns a .280 average with 208 home runs and 560 RBI in eight seasons with the New York Yankees, Texas Rangers and the Nationals.
Soriano finished third in the AL Rookie of the Year balloting with the Yankees in 2001, when he hit .268 with 18 homers and 73 RBI. He finished third in MVP voting the following season, when he increased his average to .300 and collected 39 homers and 102 RBI.
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With the money they've been shelling out. They better be going to the series. Too bad he didn't end up with the Yanks at 2nd.
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I thought baseball learned from the mistakes of the past by giving people 100+ dollar contracts with a ridiculous amount of years
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There is good and bad to that.

Good - Locking up great yougn talent so you keep them through their best years (Alex Rodriguez (regardless of trades)

Bad - Locking up aging players during their declining years (Mo Vaughn, Jason Giambi.)
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I think Giambi still got it in my opinion. This past season was pretty good to him.
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CUBBIES!

Plus they resigned Ramirez and Lee will be healthy next year. I think i'm gunna try to hit atleast 5 games this upcoming season. Go CUBBIES!
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Zambrano will be filthy next year. He's always filthy, but after this year you just get the feeling, with some extra bats in the lineup, he will be straight up dealing that filthy stuff to every team. I can see Zambrano winning 20 games easily next season with the lineup the Cubs have now. Arguably and potentially the best lineup in the National league next year.
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Old 11-20-2006, 12:28 AM   #303
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Yeah but that good can very easily become a bad when the player becomes unhappy/loses favor of the organization. Makes them nearly impossible to move
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Beltran is another play who's big contract seems to be a success so far.
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I think Giambi still got it in my opinion. This past season was pretty good to him.
No doubt about that. I think Giambi has been great for the yanks since he got there.

He was slowed by injury and a major sickness that sidelined him. Even with the injuries and sterioid alegations he has been a great leader and player for the yanks.

That being said, He was paid near record amounts of money, and even though he has been good, he has not lived to that hige contract.

I will say that maybe I shouldn't have used Giambino as an example, as there are far worse examples.

One reason why the NFL is the top league in the country....No guanteed Contracts. Outside of the signing bonus, they have to fight to keep on a team and keep the money going.

The MLB and NBA, players can get their money at a hige overprice, then downshift and ride it out.
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Adrian Beltre anyone
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Soriano has had more than one really good season, so it's not a fair comparison to him and Beltre
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So much for Houston picking up Soriano and Lee, I do imagine however they'll ensure they get Carlos Lee signed.
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Soriano has had more than one really good season, so it's not a fair comparison to him and Beltre
I wasn't comparing I was just giving him as the obvious example after what MatthewAlanHanso said regarding MLB/NBA players essentially being able to up their game for a season to get the money and then spend half a lifetime being average
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I have a feeling we're signing Shea Hillenbrand.
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Some more signings:

ESPN.com is reporting that the Dodgers and outfielder Juan Pierre have agreed to a five-year, $45 million contract.

Mets signed outfielder Moises Alou, who had been with the Giants, to a one-year, $7.5 million contract with a club option for 2008.

Dodgers re-signed first baseman Nomar Garciaparra to a two-year contract.
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Juan Pierre is a nice improvement over Kenny Lofton, even though Pierre is overrated as hell.

At first I thought Alou was a bad idea for the Mets but he's still a good hitter and if he goes down Endy Chavez should hold it down alright.
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The Cat was a good player for the Jays, but now is the time to move on from him or give him a fulltime job. Reed Johnson looks like he *should* be able to be the everyday left fielder. So that really does move Frank out. Anyway, best of luck to him.
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Frank Catalanotto is gonna be the steal of the offseason, I'm telling you.
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Wow, that Juan Pierre deal is awful. You know the market is crazy when he gets a 5-year deal for that much. There's a lot of signings happening real quick this year.
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