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Old 05-02-2004, 04:56 PM   #281
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We have home court, we have an extremely favorable record against Sacto/SanAn/LA, and we have the MVP.

Could we fall? Sure, but so could everyone else.

Could we go all the way? You're damn skippy.
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Old 05-02-2004, 05:12 PM   #282
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I don't know why San Antonio got all the publicity going into the playoffs, they won their past like 10 and the Wolves won the final 8, so they were both hot. The Wolves have beaten Sac twice in Arco, plus we have home court, so ask me and thats a favorable matchup. What is going to hurt us now is Wally and Hudson on the bench.
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Spurs just beat the Lakers in the first round.

Haha the Lakers were doing a pretty good defensive job the first three quarters.

And BCWWF, we still have our streak going on.

Up to 16 nowwwwwww
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Old 05-02-2004, 07:53 PM   #284
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hahahaha fuck you lakers.

bcwwf, nash will be on dallas next year. see dallas could've been a favorite to win the championship this year if they would've gone out and gotten defense instead of shitty players like antoine walker. the thing that hurt them most was lack of defense and leadership, which is provided by 3 words: nick van exel. i don't think dallas realized how important he was, other than maybe bobby jackson he's the most valuable back-up PG in the league. no way he was worth jamison. not that jamison's a bad player but more offense off the bench isn't what dallas needed. what dallas needs to do is keep the core of the team (nash, finley, and dirk) and the 2 rookies and go out and get a real center and some defense and get rid of players like walker, jamison, and bradley.
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So all they need is defense, leadership, and a center.

Hmm. That's not a lot to ask for, is it?

Maybe a coaching change, because with all that talent you'd think they'd be able to do SOMETHING.
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Really if they could keep Jaimison, I don't think he hurts the team at all. Walker has to go, and they have to get a scrappy, defensive center, because everyone knows that Dirk offers nothing defensively despite his size.

The way I look at it is that there are two kind of centers, one that is just a purely dominant big man who overpowers and is, well, dominant (Shaq, Duncan) or else the center that acts as the sidekick to the power forward, doesn't do a tonn on offense or defense, but is a big presence in the paint and can distribute the ball well and score/rebound when the time comes, the best example of this is Vlade Divac, but guys like Ervin Johnson fit this catagory also. In my opinion, if you don't fit into one of those catagories, you aren't a very effective center (maybe a few exceptions).

Now Dallas is in a predicament. They don't need another roleplayer to fit in the holes, but they don't have room offensively for another dominant big man. Dirk offers nothing when it comes to getting strong rebounds, and that is exactly what they need. The best guys for the job would be Ben Wallace, Brad Miller, Erick Dampier, Dennis Rodman So basically they probably won't have any luck in this offseason getting the big rebounding center that they need.
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My main piece of advice would be to drop Dirk. With a perimeter team of Nash and Finley, you don't need a pussy three point shooter as your dominant big man. If they lost Dirk and got Chris Webber, Tim Duncan, or Kevin Garnett, I think they would easilly be the best team in the league.
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Well Walker is a free agent now so thats the first step.

The thing to realise about the mavs is that the first thing that they care about is being a succesful bussiness. And they are by all means. Cuban built the team to make him money, he may not come close to a championship like Indiana or New Jersey but look who is selling out at home and on the road, who is getting thier games on tv and who is selling the merchandise

The thing is that the Mavs are far away from a championship team but they will be a great business for a number of years to come
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bcwwf, nash will be on dallas next year. see dallas could've been a favorite to win the championship this year if they would've gone out and gotten defense instead of shitty players like antoine walker. the thing that hurt them most was lack of defense and leadership, which is provided by 3 words: nick van exel. i don't think dallas realized how important he was, other than maybe bobby jackson he's the most valuable back-up PG in the league. no way he was worth jamison. not that jamison's a bad player but more offense off the bench isn't what dallas needed. what dallas needs to do is keep the core of the team (nash, finley, and dirk) and the 2 rookies and go out and get a real center and some defense and get rid of players like walker, jamison, and bradley.
Nick Van Exel did give them leadership, but not defense. The moment I found out he was traded, I immediately wrote Dallas off. They would have been the first team to blow a 3-0 lead and lose the series if it weren't for Van Exel. They wouldn't have beaten a Webber-less Kings without Nick Van Exel. Antawn Jamison shouldn't have won Sixth Man of the Year. A sixth man that makes as much as your superstar is making me wonder if Mark Cuban is in over his head when it comes to owning an NBA team. Look at the Kings. They got better by trading for better players, not by trading your mentally toughest player for Antawn Jamison. I thought getting rid of Raef LaFrentz was a good move, but Walker is a terrible 3-point shooter and he shoots it too much. Hell, LaFrentz is a better 3-point shooter. He was just a defensive liability, though. They have to somehow get Nick back while he is open to returning there , get rid of Jamison and Walker for someone or two players not named Scott Williams who can play defense and re-sign Steve Nash, which can only be done be getting rid of Jamison and/or Walker. With all the bad deals they made last off-season, the Mavericks have actually taken a few steps back. How do you add two scorers when you need defense? Just plain stupid. They trade their toughest player and now their soft-asses again. And they wonder why they aren't taken seriously as championship contenders. Hell, Minnesota has taken their spot as one of the elite teams in the league.
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Old 05-03-2004, 04:14 PM   #290
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Yeah, imagine that, having the MVP and the #1 seed and becoming elite. I was scared for the Wolves there for a minute...
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Van Exel has stated that if he is not playing for one of the Texas teams next year, he won't be playing. San Antonio, Houston? I would say he is hinting pretty strongly towards Dallas again, so that is a good sign, they might be able to pull him in for less than he is worth.
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Well considering he had an off year full of injuries I wouldn't be surprised if Dallas got him cheap. Especially since San Antonio and Houston are awful fits for him.
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haha

So how does it feel to play a team that is not Denver?
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Wolves played better all game, got fewer calls ( David Stern!) and Latrell Sprewell WOULD NOT STOP SHOOTING THE ****ING BALL.

I can honestly say that the Wolves beat themselves.

SCRATCH THAT.

SPREWELL BEAT THE TIMBERWOLVES

ARGH

I AM GOING TO BURN THAT MOTHER****ING JERSEY.

2-14. 1-7 3-pointers. Christ almighty.
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Minnesota is done. Spree isn't gonna get wide open shots like he did against Vo Lenard and C-Webb and Brad Miller aren't gonna get into foul trouble like Nene did. Alien can't go for 40 every night.
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Everyone said "KG needs to take it inside."

He did. He was triple-teamed the entire game and drove hard to the basket, was hacked and went to the line what, twice?

He had 3 travels because he couldn't shoot the ball because his arms were tied up. It was pathetic.

But Spree? HE WAS OPEN ON MOST OF THOSE GODDAMN SHOTS.
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Spree was wide open. He's a non-factor. Even on his "best game," in Gm 5, he was shit.

Miller and Webber were non-factors tonight. It's Bibby who will determine the outcome of the series.

Do I have faith in my Wolves? Eh. They played hard, and Hassell was a BEAST tonight. I marked out bigtime for him. But when Hoiberg, Hassell and Madsen are our best players after Cassell, something's wrong.

I can't believe we're paying Spree so much. He broke my heart tonight.
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KG travels on almost every possesion. No suprise that he actually got called for it a few times.
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Spree has become nothing but a spot up shooter. When his shot is off, he's useless. He's lost a few steps.
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KG travels on almost every possesion. No suprise that he actually got called for it a few times.
He's fouled on every possession, too, when he goes inside.

Even when people complained that he got 'all the calls," he still only made it to the line 15 times, when someone like Duncan or Kobe or whoever will get to the line 20+ times A GAME, not just on a good game.

That's the thing. If you looked, he had hands draped all over him, he had to take an extra step. He gets no love.

But Spree. :foc: I hope the Bobcats take him.
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He can defend, but that's what Hassell does... and Hassell is a better shooter than mother****ing Sprewell, and Hassell WAS CUT BY THE BULLS.
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KG only has himself to blame though. He falls in love with his jumper and takes nothing but 20 footers and baseline fallaway jumpers.
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KG only has himself to blame though. He falls in love with his jumper and takes nothing but 20 footers and baseline fallaway jumpers.
Would you go inside if you didn't get calls? He tried going inside, was mauled every time, not called one ****ing time, and got frustrated.

That's not very like KG though, usually when he's upset he just tries harder. This time he just got straight-up frustrated.

Sprewell though, he didn't give a fuck. He just kept shooting like he was at practice. :foc:
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The winner of Lakers/San Antonio will win.

T-Wolves and Kings are pretenders.

Don't even get me started on the East.
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Spurs got this.

If the Lakers make it again, they will not be able to handle the Pistons. Pistons are beasts, and will beat the shit out of them. The Lakers are too old and fragile to handle the Pistons, so they would not be able to survive 7 games. Duncan is too steady, too consistent. You can't do anything to stop him besides put him on the line, and while the Pistons will do that, he'll still bomb on them.
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If the Lakers make it again, they will not be able to handle the Pistons. Pistons are beasts, and will beat the shit out of them. The Lakers are too old and fragile to handle the Pistons, so they would not be able to survive 7 games. Duncan is too steady, too consistent. You can't do anything to stop him besides put him on the line, and while the Pistons will do that, he'll still bomb on them.
I'm a huge fan of Ben Wallace, but I don't think they'll be able to contain the Lakers. If the Lakers get to the finals, I'm pretty sure that Payton and Malone will be at their bests.........(knowing that this will be their last and CLOSEST chance at winning). They'll be at the top of their games....and will look 5 years younger. Kobe and Shaq will still be Kobe and Shaq.
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Yeah Heyman is right, Pistons would beat the Lakers on paper but will beats skill. And it wouldn't hurt that the refs would definetly be helping out the Lakers with Payton and Malone looking for rings.
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I'm a huge fan of Ben Wallace, but I don't think they'll be able to contain the Lakers. If the Lakers get to the finals, I'm pretty sure that Payton and Malone will be at their bests.........(knowing that this will be their last and CLOSEST chance at winning). They'll be at the top of their games....and will look 5 years younger. Kobe and Shaq will still be Kobe and Shaq.
Hopefully though, Ben will stomp on Shaq's toe, run into Kobe's shoulder, and twist Malone's knee.
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Minnesota is done. Spree isn't gonna get wide open shots like he did against Vo Lenard and C-Webb and Brad Miller aren't gonna get into foul trouble like Nene did. Alien can't go for 40 every night.
And Sac isn't even at full-strength. Bobby Jackson has yet to play in the postseason. The only player I can think of that can get 40 a night on the Kings in the playoffs is Nick Van Exel, but he's in Golden State. He did average 25 a game off the bench against Sac last year. Anyway, if Minnesota can't get to the line at home, then yes, they are done. By the way, Trenton Hassell SUCKS. The Kings don't need a player to score 40 to win, anyway. They are too deep for the Wolves. Olowokandi has yet to show up in the playoffs. He's making Ervin Johnson look good and that's bad.
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Bobby Jackson is gone for the season.

Poor guy. He was such an inspiration to watch.
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And Sac isn't even at full-strength. Bobby Jackson has yet to play in the postseason. The only player I can think of that can get 40 a night on the Kings in the playoffs is Nick Van Exel, but he's in Golden State. He did average 25 a game off the bench against Sac last year. Anyway, if Minnesota can't get to the line at home, then yes, they are done. By the way, Trenton Hassell SUCKS. The Kings don't need a player to score 40 to win, anyway. They are too deep for the Wolves. Olowokandi has yet to show up in the playoffs. He's making Ervin Johnson look good and that's bad.
Troy Hudson and Wally Szczerbiak?

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"full strength,"

My ass. Wolves spit on your full strength. They would have won the game if Spree could have scored.

Hassell held down Peja pretty well and scored 17, and he's not a scorer. And he sucks?

Wolve have been beating the Kings all season long. But they're evenly matched. Hopefully the Wolves make a series of this and don't bend over like they used to do in the 1st round.
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First of all, the Pistons aren't winning any NBA finals. Maybe they will get there, but they don't have enough offense to beat a team like the Lakers. If Sac or Minnesota somehow makes the finals, the Pistons would have a chance at taking two games off, but the West is way to dominant, and the Pistons aren't going to be holding the Lakers down to 60 points, ever.
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As for last nights game, the Timberwolves didn't play well at all, yet we still ended up right with them until the end. That is a good sign for me. Chris Weber is a non-factor, he plain and simply sucks. You throw him the ball, he stands there with it, he doesn't move, he doesn't do anything. Chris Weber is one big statistic, he ends up with good stats, but he isn't a dominant player, he doesn't dominate the game, he doesn't do anything to change the game, he compares nothing to Shaq, Duncan, or Garnett, not even close.

This series is going to do right down to the line, there is no question in my mind. The Kings are so streaky now, the Wolves have a different player step up every night, anyone who said the Wolves would sweep the Kings is an idiot. Anyone who says the Kings will sweep the Wolves is an idiot. This is a great matchup, I am not going to predict a winner, but if theres not at least a game 6 I will be shocked.
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As for the whole Van Evel Texas team thing... The Spurs are 10 million under their salary cap.

I know they wont pay him that much so stfu. :foc:

We have plenty of money to restructure the team to redefine it even more.

We will be beasts next year.
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"full strength,"

My ass. Wolves spit on your full strength. They would have won the game if Spree could have scored.

Hassell held down Peja pretty well and scored 17, and he's not a scorer. And he sucks?

Wolve have been beating the Kings all season long. But they're evenly matched. Hopefully the Wolves make a series of this and don't bend over like they used to do in the 1st round.
Spit on your full strength? Regular season doesn't mean anything. It's amazing how T'Wolves fans aren't able to grasp that concept. You really think Trenton Hassell would have a game like that again in his life? No. They let him shoot. No one is gonna guard Trenton Hassell. You can't beat anyone getting 20 less free throws less than your opponent, especially if that team has the best FT'er in the league. You should win at home if you have homecourt advantage, so I don't wanna hear the what if's and the would-coulda-shouldas. If Spree scored......If KG had a good game......If they would have gotten to the line.... it doesn't matter. They lost the game, the homecourt advantage, and ultimately the series.
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As for the whole Van Evel Texas team thing... The Spurs are 10 million under their salary cap.

I know they wont pay him that much so stfu. :foc:

We have plenty of money to restructure the team to redefine it even more.

We will be beasts next year.
I agree that Nick Van Exel probably won't be picked up by San Antonio. His best bet is going back to Dallas, but I don't know if the Mavs are smart enough to take him back. Dallas has never signed a big-name free-agent. It's scary to see what the Spurs can do with all that cap room. If they repeat, I smell dynasty.
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Spit on your full strength? Regular season doesn't mean anything. It's amazing how T'Wolves fans aren't able to grasp that concept. You really think Trenton Hassell would have a game like that again in his life? No. They let him shoot. No one is gonna guard Trenton Hassell. You can't beat anyone getting 20 less free throws less than your opponent, especially if that team has the best FT'er in the league. You should win at home if you have homecourt advantage, so I don't wanna hear the what if's and the would-coulda-shouldas. If Spree scored......If KG had a good game......If they would have gotten to the line.... it doesn't matter. They lost the game, the homecourt advantage, and ultimately the series.
Stern was there, the refs called the game as though it was played in Sacto. The T'Wolves never had home court.

Also, the Nuggets let Hassell score, and he did. He will hit open shots... but Spree better god damn well ****ing score. For what he's making, if he can't score he's useless.
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