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Old 01-28-2006, 03:04 AM   #3361
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Old 01-28-2006, 03:08 AM   #3362
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By looking like a 70s porn star?
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Old 01-28-2006, 03:10 AM   #3363
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Old 01-28-2006, 05:44 AM   #3364
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Nah. Long haired, bearded, non-interception throwing Jake is best
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Old 01-28-2006, 06:49 AM   #3365
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Old 01-28-2006, 09:36 AM   #3366
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Behind two of the greatest defenses in NFL history.

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Old 01-28-2006, 09:37 AM   #3367
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He wasn't guilty in criminal court technically.
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Old 01-28-2006, 01:13 PM   #3370
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Old 01-28-2006, 01:16 PM   #3371
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If Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson can be "Super Bowl winning QB's" then so can Hasselbeck
Brad Johnson in "his day" was a pretty decent QB, I wouldn't put him with the Dilfers and Hostetlers.
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Old 01-28-2006, 01:46 PM   #3372
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Brad Johnson in "his day" was a pretty decent QB, I wouldn't put him with the Dilfers and Hostetlers.
I'd put Dilfer up there with him, if not above. Neither ever had range, but both were accurate and could manage a game and minimize mistakes, but Dilfer was more mobile. He just was forced to sit and watch the Bucs build the team, like Dungy. Brad and Gruden were handed a SuperBowl defense.
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Old 01-28-2006, 01:52 PM   #3374
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Technically. In the strictest sense of the phrase, OJ was found not guilty by a jury of his "peers." Beyond that, who can tell? But it's true, he was criminally exhonerated.
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I didn't say he didn't do it, I'm saying technically he was found not guilty.

They got him in civil court.

I mean, he did it theres no doubt in my mind but they found him not guilty.

"If the glove don't fit you must acquit" lol
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Old 01-28-2006, 02:12 PM   #3376
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I'd put Dilfer up there with him, if not above. Neither ever had range, but both were accurate and could manage a game and minimize mistakes, but Dilfer was more mobile. He just was forced to sit and watch the Bucs build the team, like Dungy. Brad and Gruden were handed a SuperBowl defense.
Brad always had a better arm and yeah, Gruden took over a good team, but Dungy has had "good" teams in two places and hasn't won yet... till he at least makes a super bowl he'll carry the "regular season coach" stigma... like Marty S.
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Brad always had a better arm and yeah, Gruden took over a good team, but Dungy has had "good" teams in two places and hasn't won yet... till he at least makes a super bowl he'll carry the "regular season coach" stigma... like Marty S.
Well Dungy put together the Bucs team, Gruden gets a ring, then destroys the team... doubt he'll be sniffing the big game again under Chris Simms with Ryan Nece leading the charge.

Like Dungy said... the Colts just now have a good "team," more than just Manning... but they're one of the three youngest teams in the NFL. If the Colts don't ship him out, I foresee him getting his ring if he has patience. But you need your talent to mature before they can withstand the postseason.
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I plan on paying homage to Darrell Russell.
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Well Dungy put together the Bucs team, Gruden gets a ring, then destroys the team... doubt he'll be sniffing the big game again under Chris Simms with Ryan Nece leading the charge.

Like Dungy said... the Colts just now have a good "team," more than just Manning... but they're one of the three youngest teams in the NFL. If the Colts don't ship him out, I foresee him getting his ring if he has patience. But you need your talent to mature before they can withstand the postseason.
Was Dungy the GM in Tampa? or did someone else "build it", and if Dungy had "won something" then they wouldn't have brought in Gruden. You're not always going to have the "best team" but that still doesn't mean you can't out coach and have the "better team that day". I dunno, I just see this being Dungy's last coaching job and being another Marty.

Also did Gruden really destroy that team, or did age and salary cap force him to rebuild?

My jury is still out on Chris Simms, how he improves this offseason will tell us where he's going to be able to go as a pro QB.
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Colts will never win a Superbowl . Pacers will never win a Championship. I'll be a depressed sports fan for the rest of my life. Plagued by nightmares of Mike Davis sitting on the bench and watching as Indiana St erases a 20 point lead with 2 minutes to go to win by 7 ( or something along those lines ).
I used to say that about the Pats & Red Sox... never say never...
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Theres more to a team then just the coach bro. Tony Dungy is a great coach and a great person. Thats why i believe in him.
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Theres more to a team then just the coach bro. Tony Dungy is a great coach and a great person. Thats why i believe in him.
But, you don't believe with all the talent he has he'll be able to win a superbowl?

Personally, I don't... I think he's a great guy, I respect him and what he does (not just on the field) I just don't see him (either in Tampa or Indy) being a coach that can get a team to that "next level".

I think you put Walsh, Gibbs, Parcells, Belicheck, Johnson, just to name a few in charge of that team and they make the Superbowl, I know I just named "the best" but there are others I think would have gotten them there also.

Maybe next year is "the year"... just wait, it will be the year everyone really write them off, then they'll win it.

or even better, some off season when Daddy Manning is running his mouth, Peyton & Eli both publicly denounce him and then go on to have an all Manning Superbowl.

As I've said before, I don't dislike Peyton, however his father goes out of his way to prove how much of an ass he is. (Archie being the ass not peyton).
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I dont believe in my team at all right now. I probably wont til they are punching there ticket to the Super Bowl. But i think thats just from the playoff hangover i have.

I think Dungy can win a Superbowl. It just remains to be seen. I think he's a much better coach then Marty Ball.
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And to be quite honest ,my belief in Peyton Manning is at an all time low. You could call him anything and i probably wont argue. Not showing up for 3 quarters is flat out unacceptable.
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NEW YORK -- The NFL Network will broadcast eight prime-time games on Thursdays and Saturdays beginning next season.

The eight-game package, announced by commissioner Paul Tagliabue on Saturday, will begin with a game on Thanksgiving night. All of the games also will be shown on local stations in the teams' home markets. The package was created by taking Saturday and Sunday games that originally would have been shown by the league's broadcast partners or on their regional telecasts.

The league runs the 2-year-old NFL Network, which is in about 40 million homes. The addition of games to its lineup almost assuredly will increase that number.

The league also has lucrative deals with CBS, Fox, NBC, ESPN and DirecTV.

"After discussing this new package of games with many potential partners, we decided it would be best presented on our own, high-quality NFL Network, which has developed so rapidly that the time had come to add live regular-season games to the programming," Tagliabue said. "In the end, we wanted these games on our network, which is devoted 24/7 to the sport of football, and not on a multi-sport network."

ESPN is paying $1.1 billion annually over eight years to broadcast the Monday night games. NBC has a six-year, $3.6 billion deal for the Sunday night package. CBS and Fox are paying a total of $8 billion over six years for the rights to Sunday afternoon games. DirecTV agreed to pay $3.5 billion for a five-year extension that runs through 2010.

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are you kidding? what happens to people who dont have satellite tv?

So if the Giants end up playing on Thanksgiving night then the only way to see them is to go to a restaurant to watch them play. wow
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LOL @ him being MIC'ed up and going to the wrong sideline. Ran over to the North's side and slapped someone's hand and was like "Im on the wrong side bro."

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Was Dungy the GM in Tampa? or did someone else "build it", and if Dungy had "won something" then they wouldn't have brought in Gruden. You're not always going to have the "best team" but that still doesn't mean you can't out coach and have the "better team that day". I dunno, I just see this being Dungy's last coaching job and being another Marty.

Also did Gruden really destroy that team, or did age and salary cap force him to rebuild?

My jury is still out on Chris Simms, how he improves this offseason will tell us where he's going to be able to go as a pro QB.
Dungy was the head coach. Dungy told Dennis Green to pass on Warren Sapp in the draft. They were close personal friends, he said, "Sapp is overweight, he will never succeed in the NFL."

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Well, maybe he wasn't the GM, but the coach doesn't sit on his ass and make due with what the GM gives him, now does he?

He brought in a new and unique defense, and found the right players to do it. He had to play with Trent Dilfer and Shaun King and the Seminoles at WR; it's like the Eagles having to play with Duce Staley and Todd Pinkston/FredX -- the good defense just doesn't get it done.

So to answer your initial Q, no Dungy wasn't the GM -- but was Ted Cottrell the GM in Minnesota when we brought in Antoine Winfield, Pat Williams, Sam Cowart, Ralph Brown, Keith Newman? No. But he told the GM the players he wanted to play in his system, and the GM got them. It's never so simple as "I'm gonna get talent, you play with it,"

Unless we're talking Matt Millen in Detroit... he will draft talent and force the coach to adapt. But we see how successful that is.
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are you kidding? what happens to people who dont have satellite tv?

So if the Giants end up playing on Thanksgiving night then the only way to see them is to go to a restaurant to watch them play. wow

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All of the games also will be shown on local stations in the teams' home markets. The package was created by taking Saturday and Sunday games that originally would have been shown by the league's broadcast partners or on their regional telecasts.
It sometimes helps to actually read the article you post and bitch about...
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Old 01-29-2006, 08:48 PM   #3397
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in fairness, since the Giants play in NJ, I think only NJ should get the game.

Different sport, but the Red Sox have always had 1/2 their games on their "cable station" and 1/2 on a public/free station. They changed that, as of this season all games except Fox games will be on their station.

Expect to see this more, gives the sports/team owners more direct control of TV ad revenue and station sales.
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Old 01-29-2006, 09:16 PM   #3398
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Two things, Assman lives in Virginia, BCWWF, that is his problem.

VEL, no. That would be like saying that the Patriots should only be televised in Massachussetts where they play. What the hell would they show in New York if they didn't show the Jets or Giants, besides the Bills?

I don't understand your logic, how would it be fair to say only NJ should get Giants games broadcasted? Who the hell is being treated unfairly now that they should change it? What the hell would teams want to minimize their viewing audience for, in this specific case you brought up?
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Bret Farve might retire...again... whatever. I'm tired of Brett Farve threating retirement. Just go already.
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The thing that kills me about that is, everyone was questioning whether he would retire or not and I personally never saw or hear him say he was considering it following the season.

If he does, I guess it would be okay. It is obvious that the Packers are probably building for the long run and want to shape their young QB.
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