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Old 08-30-2011, 03:21 AM   #321
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I don't how the NWO music was out of place. Kevin Nash is arguably most known for being in the NWO. Someone help me out here.
...I don't think it was OUT OF PLACE as much as just RANDOM.

It's as if Triple H came out with the DX music next Monday, even though DX isn't up and running anymore...

...it'd be like "Ok?"
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:21 AM   #322
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Not like I said I wanted the fucking truck engine noise. Calm down, people.
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:23 AM   #323
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...I don't think it was OUT OF PLACE as much as just RANDOM.

It's as if Triple H came out with the DX music next Monday, even though DX isn't up and running anymore...

...it'd be like "Ok?"
I'd be like "WOOOOO" and then pull my glowsticks out.
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:23 AM   #324
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I guarantee you more people recognized the NWO music then they would have "Diesel Blues"
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...I don't think it was OUT OF PLACE as much as just RANDOM.

It's as if Triple H came out with the DX music next Monday, even though DX isn't up and running anymore...

...it'd be like "Ok?"
Call it what you like, but that was my sentiment. I agree with this.
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Call it what you like, but that was my sentiment.
Yeah, but WWE audience KNOWS HHH ins't in DX anymore, so it's not the same.

Right now, the storyline is that no one knows why Nash in even doing in WWE, so it makes just a LITTLE more sense, wouldn't you say?
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I don't how the NWO music was out of place. Kevin Nash is arguably most known for being in the NWO. Someone help me out here.
Because the NWO is long dead? Because the last time he was in WWE, he didn't use it?

NWO was such a huge thing, that was about so much more than just Kevin Nash, that it feels weird to me, to see someone simply using their theme when it has no relevance.

Just feels like a theme that should be used for the actual NWO, and the actual NWO, only. Not a former member, years after it's gone defunct.
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:27 AM   #328
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So you expect more people to remember his dreadful 2003 run more than his world famous NWO run?
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Yeah, but WWE audience KNOWS HHH ins't in DX anymore, so it's not the same.

Right now, the storyline is that no one knows why Nash in even doing in WWE, so it makes just a LITTLE more sense, wouldn't you say?
...they're not bringing back the NWO, dude.
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I guarantee you more people recognized the NWO music then they would have "Diesel Blues"
Why does that matter?
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...they're not bringing back the NWO, dude.
I know that

My point is that WWE was worried that the current audience wouldn't remember Nash, so why not use his most famous theme that MORE people will remember?

I just think you guys are nit picking this to the max
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Why does that matter?
Because it's been reported more than once that the WWE was worried the current audience wouldn't remember who Nash is?
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How does the "nobody knows his motivation" angle have anything to do with him walking down the ramp to nWo music? Hunter is Kliq, yes, but wasn't in the nWo, so that doesn't even cast sideways doubt. It's a stretch, at best. And like I said, it brings expectations of others associated with said music, and so far, it's just Nash. And possibly Super Dave- but even HE had nothing to do with the nWo.
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I know that

My point is that WWE was worried that the current audience wouldn't remember Nash, so why not use his most famous theme that MORE people will remember?

I just think you guys are nit picking this to the max
...Dude got the loudest POP at the Royal Rumble out of every other wrestler that night...I think people remember him...
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We want to reintroduce Nash to the current audience, should we use his old Blues theme that only the IWC remembers, or should we use the theme he is more known for?

Decisions, decisions
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Yeah, but WWE audience KNOWS HHH ins't in DX anymore, so it's not the same.

Right now, the storyline is that no one knows why Nash in even doing in WWE, so it makes just a LITTLE more sense, wouldn't you say?
What? No.

Does the WWE audience not know Kevin Nash is no longer in the NWO?

What does entrance music have to do with his motives for returning?
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We want to reintroduce Nash to the current audience, should we use his old Blues theme that only the IWC remembers, or should we use the theme he is more known for?

Decisions, decisions
If that was the purpose, they're about 3 weeks too late.
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What? No.

Does the WWE audience not know Kevin Nash is no longer in the NWO?

What does entrance music have to do with his motives for returning?
My point is that the NWO music makes more sense than 20 year old music that no one remembers
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If that was the purpose, they're about 3 weeks too late.
I agree
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Because it's been reported more than once that the WWE was worried the current audience wouldn't remember who Nash is?
They could have fixed that by not having him appear ONCE at the Rumble then never seen or heard from again until a couple of weeks ago.

Booker was a "surprise" entrant too, and he's been on commentary pretty much since then.

And people seemed to know who both men were at said Royal Rumble.
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Can't believe this is a such a big deal for you guys. He could come out to David Flair's theme for all I care
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They could have fixed that by not having him appear ONCE at the Rumble then never seen or heard from again until a couple of weeks ago.
I agree. They should have done it sooner. Doesn't mean it makes less sense now.

Also, maybe I'[m alone here, but I don't think the MSG crowd truly reflects the "average" WWE audience.

WWE can't hang their hat on what a notoriously smarky crowd reacted to.
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We want to reintroduce Nash to the current audience, should we use his old Blues theme that only the IWC remembers, or should we use the theme he is more known for?

Decisions, decisions
If the theme he was most known for was HIS theme and not the theme of an entire faction.

The NWO theme was as big a part of the NWO as anything else involved, and using it for anything other than the NWO, feels out of place to me.

And if people don't know who Kevin fucking Nash is, then they aren't going to know who the NWO are, because he was with them from beginning to end.
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Can't believe this is a such a big deal for you guys. He could come out to David Flair's theme for all I care
...Kevin Nash brings out emotions that were asleep until recently
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Can't believe this is a such a big deal for you guys. He could come out to David Flair's theme for all I care
Just because we are discussing it, doesn't mean it's a big deal to me. You can have a good discussion about anything, no matter it's unimportance.
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– WWE’s website has published an article looking at Kevin Nash’s return and how it’s similar to the NWO, teasing the return of the infamous group. As seen on RAW tonight, Nash is using the NWO theme music.


...Oh, please no...
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And if people don't know who Kevin fucking Nash is, then they aren't going to know who the NWO are, because he was with them from beginning to end.
I disagree. I'm willing to bet money that more people know who the NWO was, than just Kevin Nash individuality.

Anyway, that's beyond the point. Seems like this theme issue is more of a personal hang-up than a "WWE fucked" issue. My advice is for you to get over it. In a few weeks no one will remember or care what theme Kevin Nash came out to on August 29, 2011
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Can't believe this is a such a big deal for you guys. He could come out to David Flair's theme for all I care
Which one, the WWE one that became an internet meme, or the giggly one he had in WCW with Daffney and Crowbar?
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– WWE’s website has published an article looking at Kevin Nash’s return and how it’s similar to the NWO, teasing the return of the infamous group. As seen on RAW tonight, Nash is using the NWO theme music.


...Oh, please no...
I rest my case
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:43 AM   #350
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Which one, the WWE one that became an internet meme, or the giggly one he had in WCW with Daffney and Crowbar?
The meme one is def. better
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– WWE’s website has published an article looking at Kevin Nash’s return and how it’s similar to the NWO, teasing the return of the infamous group. As seen on RAW tonight, Nash is using the NWO theme music.


...Oh, please no...
Actually, that makes it make more sense. You may or may not like the idea, but there it is.
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:48 AM   #353
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I disagree. I'm willing to bet money that more people know who the NWO was, than just Kevin Nash individuality.

Anyway, that's beyond the point. Seems like this theme issue is more of a personal hang-up than a "WWE fucked" issue. My advice is for you to get over it. In a few weeks no one will remember or care what theme Kevin Nash came out to on August 29, 2011

It doesn't actually bother me, so I don't need to get over it.

And if they were intending to tease an NWO return, they should have done more than just play the entrance music. Given the response, I'm not the only one who was thrown off by it, and didn't see an NWO return, in the move.
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Fifteen years ago, Kevin Nash rocked sports-entertainment by assembling the infamous New World Order. More than a decade later, WWE may be on the brink of a new incarnation of the black and white. The influential group’s beginnings were rooted in confusion and conspiracy involving Kevin Nash, similar to the current state of WWE.

In 1996, The Outsiders, Kevin Nash and Scott Hall — known in WWE as Diesel and Razor Ramon, respectively — began appearing on WCW Monday Nitro. Their infamous words, “you want a war?” immediately struck a nerve and paranoia about a coming WWE invasion ran rampant inside the WCW locker room. At Bash at the Beach, Hulk Hogan shocked the world when he joined The Outsiders to form the New World Order, one of the most impactful groups in history.

The paranoia of a new regime coming into WCW in 1996 draws bold parallels to the current state of WWE under Triple H. While the Chief Operating Officer claims to have the best interests of the organization at heart, both his reputation as The Cerebral Assassin and the return of Kevin Nash have no doubt led CM Punk and the WWE Universe to draw conclusions similar to those brought up in WCW’s locker room in 1996. While the question over who summoned Nash to take down The Second City Savior at SummerSlam remains unanswered, the possibility of a reborn New World Order is among suspicions. Adding fuel to the paranoia is that fact that Nash came out to the nWo's unmistakable music on Raw.

All of the confusion and conspiracy stems from the mystery of who sent Nash the text message at SummerSlam. The atmosphere of deception and the inconsistent being told by Nash, Triple H and John Laurinaitis have led to widespread speculation among the WWE Universe and WWE Superstars. When the nWo first formed, that same sense of deceit from WCW competitors such as Hulk Hogan and reaching as high as WCW President Eric Bischoff is what allowed The New World Order to begin its rise to power.

All signs point to Nash’s collusion with WWE’s new COO. It’s no secret that they are close friends; both individuals have made that abundantly clear, acknowledging their friendship that stems back to the tight knit locker room group known as “The Kliq” with Shawn Michaels, Sean Waltman (X-Pac) and Scott Hall. Interestingly enough, when The Outsiders left WWE in 1996, separating The Kliq, Hall and Nash would eventually form The New World Order in WCW, while Shawn Michaels and Triple H, remaining in WWE, formed D-Generation X. Waltman was a member of both groups during their heydays in each respective brand. During the nWo’s WWE resurgence in 2002, when Nash took command of the group, Michaels joined and the two heavily recruited Triple H. An injury to Big Sexy led to that incarnation of the New World Order disbanding, but perhaps The Game and Nash are now bringing The Kliq full circle.

This could merely be the beginning of something greater. When the original nWo formed in WCW, it started with three competitors but soon expanded its ranks and grew exponentially in numbers. If the nWo was to reform today, there are a number of WWE Superstars who would fit in perfectly with the group’s method of operation.
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If you're not having fun discussing Kevin Nash's theme music, well then I just don't know what to tell you.
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The meme one is def. better
Like I said before, it's not like I said I wanted to hear the iding rig engine. I don't see why I'm getting shit on because I was personally dissappointed to hear nWo music instead of Diesel Blues*

And this whole "nobody but the IWC knows Nash's theme" sounds silly. Half the posters on this site didn't seem to know CM Punk was coming to the ring when he started RE-using "Cult of Personality" instead of that throwaway Orton theme he had since he started.



*Apparently, I'm going to have to start the asterisk gimmick with this like I do whenever I say Henning*. I don't care if you prefer it to be called "Jacknife" or not, it's the same damned song. I will refer to it as such, even if it means I go to IWC hell for taking Lord Nash's song name in vein. Diesel Blues*
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:56 AM   #358
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to be fair, I would mark out to the NWO music even if Yoshi Tatsu came out to it
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See? You're biased toward production music-turned entrance themes.

Why I'll bet Booker T's theme is a close second in your book.
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See, Nash should just be Tyson Kidd's bodyguard. Then we have Nash on the show and Kidd in the ring.

Somehow leading to Kidd V Punk
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