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Old 12-06-2011, 09:53 PM   #321
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That too.

Don't get me wrong, I like Zack Ryder...but even I started to get sick of seeing him. He was in like four fucking segments and TWO matches. Dial it back, guys. Punk was only on for the last segment.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:58 PM   #322
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Can't tell if WWE is trying to associate Cena with Ryder to get more cheers for Cena or if they are purposely trying to overexpose Ryder and associate him with Cena to get less cheers.
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Old 12-06-2011, 11:47 PM   #323
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That too.

Don't get me wrong, I like Zack Ryder...but even I started to get sick of seeing him. He was in like four fucking segments and TWO matches. Dial it back, guys. Punk was only on for the last segment.
I agree. LOVE Ryder, but come on. I love pizza, but if I eat it all the time I'd get sick of it.
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Old 12-06-2011, 11:59 PM   #324
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If Ziggler can get two PPV matches in one night I don't have any issues with Ryder having two just on freaking tv as long as he's not pulling a Super-Cena in both of em it's fine by me.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:30 AM   #325
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You seriously don't think that was too much Ryder? The two matches were pushing it, but what really put it over the top was when he ran down AGAIN for Ziggler's match after it already seemed like he had his moment for the night. It was just excessive. I feel like some people may still be riding the high of Ryder's story (and it's a great story), but if you seriously saw that much of Ryder every week, I doubt you'd be as into him.

In a case like Ryder's, I think the term "less is more" applies. Think about Survivor Series when the crowd was just clamoring to see him, then the pop he got when he finally DID show up out of nowhere. It's impossible to sustain that energy when you show the same guy in two matches and two additional segments. If it were up to me, I'd keep the Ryder appearances VERY limited and more surprising. I would let the crowd beg for him all night and FINALLY spring him out there for a moment. At least for now. We can't forget that the guy was just a huge jobber not too long ago. Even in kayfabe, he doesn't deserve that much air time. Ziggler may have two matches on a PPV, but that's because he's a CHAMPION, and he warrants that kind of attention.

Also, let's not forget that Dolph Ziggler is about forty one thousand times better than Zack Ryder.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:34 AM   #326
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There's just no reason to have a guy who JUST stopped jobbing on the show that often and have your WWE champion on for one closing segment and hardly mentioned otherwise. The water will run dry at an astounding rate if this continues.
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Old 12-07-2011, 08:26 AM   #327
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And less Johnny Ace. Please.
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Also, let's not forget that Dolph Ziggler is about forty one thousand times better than Zack Ryder.
Is that a scientifically derived figure?
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Old 12-07-2011, 12:58 PM   #329
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Well I definitely didn't just pull it out of my ass, that's for sure.
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Old 12-07-2011, 02:37 PM   #330
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The thing with Cena giving up his title shot for Ryder should have been a great endearing moment for Cena and awesome for his character. But people are douchebags.
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Old 12-07-2011, 02:43 PM   #331
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You guys are so fickle. It was one show that gave fans exactly what they have wanted, Ryder in the spotlight gaining his title shot. Ontop of that when the hell has any secondary title had a story this powerful in the last several years. I can't stand how fickle the IWC can be, why jump the gun on saying Ryder is over exposed because of one major angle on Raw that has been building for months?

WWE is making new stars and Ryder is leading the pack, and on a side note he may be a strong reason as to why Colt Cabana didn't get a spot on Raw.
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Old 12-07-2011, 02:50 PM   #332
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Ryder was on the show too fucking much. That's all there is to it.
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Old 12-07-2011, 02:58 PM   #333
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Chill out. It was just for one week. One show.

And it made good storytelling. It is making the US Championship important.

First match was fine.

Second match was as much about Cena as it was about Ryder, so that's fine.

His run in was just advancing the story between him and Ziggles some more. I see no problem with it at all.


If they have Ryder on the show as much weeks in a row, I agree, it would get tiring.

But for one week? And in the context of good storytelling? Making the US Title important? Giving it some focus and spotlight, which is what people are always clamoring for? Meanwhile, doing something semi-interesting with John Cena?

Good stuff.
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:06 PM   #334
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It wasn't enough to ruin the show for me, but let's not pretend that he wasn't featured too much on that particular show. Because he was.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:14 PM   #335
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I bet this wouldn't be as much of an issue if the crowd didn't suck ass and Ryder was getting his typical reaction.
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:00 PM   #336
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I felt the exact same way as AT.
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For all we know this could be the high point of his carreer so I'm not going to complain but if it starts happening on a weekly basis with him rather than other talents well then I would have an issue.
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Definitely too much Ryder, and I'm a fan of the kid.
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Ryder was on the show too fucking much. That's all there is to it.
Shoot, 3/4 of the show was written around Ryder.
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