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Old 06-23-2012, 03:57 AM   #1
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HAH!!!

I actually did look at the ratings.

The Benoit vs Bret Nitro got a 2.9 rating, not a 2.6. Now, he could have been referencing the week after that match, in which case, he should get his facts straight. Not really my problem. Whether he got those two weeks mixed up is irrelevant however to most of the upcoming Vince Russo stupidity I am about to unleash.

So, it went up .6 in that three months. Which is good for Russo... until you actually look at the fact that ONE month before Benoit vs Bret, Nitro got a 4.1 rating....

So Russo took over after a bad week for 3 months (Of course he'll ignore that it happened to be a worse than usual week considering the rating a month earlier was better than anything in the upcoming 3 months that he was responsible for).

During Russo's 3 months, the highest rating was that 3.4. The lowest? 2.8... that was 2 months into his "reign of excellence". Oh, and if you don't wanna do the math, that's also lower than that pitiful 2.9 that the Benoit-Bret Nitro got before he came in to save the day.

So Russo leaves for 3 months. When he is asked to come back, the rating is "back" at 2.5. That would be the 4/17 Nitro. Of course he fails to mention that the week before that, the rating was 3.1. And the highest rating during that Russo-less 3 months? It came a month after Russo went home... 3.6. That's right. .2 points higher than the highest rating during that three months WITH Russo.

Man, when you just say the things that help your case and leave out the details, it is REALLY easy to skew things in your favor.

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Old 06-23-2012, 05:06 AM   #3
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HAH!!!

I actually did look at the ratings.

The Benoit vs Bret Nitro got a 2.9 rating, not a 2.6. Now, he could have been referencing the week after that match, in which case, he should get his facts straight. Not really my problem. Whether he got those two weeks mixed up is irrelevant however to most of the upcoming Vince Russo stupidity I am about to unleash.

So, it went up .6 in that three months. Which is good for Russo... until you actually look at the fact that ONE month before Benoit vs Bret, Nitro got a 4.1 rating....

So Russo took over after a bad week for 3 months (Of course he'll ignore that it happened to be a worse than usual week considering the rating a month earlier was better than anything in the upcoming 3 months that he was responsible for).

During Russo's 3 months, the highest rating was that 3.4. The lowest? 2.8... that was 2 months into his "reign of excellence". Oh, and if you don't wanna do the math, that's also lower than that pitiful 2.9 that the Benoit-Bret Nitro got before he came in to save the day.

So Russo leaves for 3 months. When he is asked to come back, the rating is "back" at 2.5. That would be the 4/17 Nitro. Of course he fails to mention that the week before that, the rating was 3.1. And the highest rating during that Russo-less 3 months? It came a month after Russo went home... 3.6. That's right. .2 points higher than the highest rating during that three months WITH Russo.

Man, when you just say the things that help your case and leave out the details, it is REALLY easy to skew things in your favor.

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http://www.twnpnews.com/information/WCW/wcwnitro.shtml

http://cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=4310
Nice try to try and twist the facts,,, not working pal anyone with a brain can go look up the ratings their selves
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:28 AM   #4
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I'm gonna try simplifying this for you because I seriously feel like you're just too slow to comprehend everything I've said.

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The Benoit vs Bret Nitro got a 2.9 rating, not a 2.6...
Bret vs Benoit was on 10/4/99. The rating for that Nitro was 2.9. Not 2.6 like Russo said in the interview you posted.

Am I wrong so far? Feel free to point it out. I'll wait to move on to my next point to make sure you're grasping this first bit.
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:30 AM   #5
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I'm gonna try simplifying this for you because I seriously feel like you're just too slow to comprehend everything I've said.



Bret vs Benoit was on 10/4/99. The rating for that Nitro was 2.9. Not 2.6 like Russo said in the interview you posted.

Am I wrong so far? Feel free to point it out. I'll wait to move on to my next point to make sure you're grasping this first bit.
What is your point about him mixing up a week date on a rating in a interview YEARS AND YEARS after it happened MY FUC-ING GOD what the f--- why are you going on and on about him mixing up a date ,,, READ THE RATINGS EVERYTIME IN HIS 3 MONTH STINTS THEY WOULD RISE THEN WHEN HE WOULD LEAVE THEY WOULD PLUMMET,,
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:18 AM   #8
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Posting Russo propaganda should be banned from these forums, this guy is totally on another level of fail.

It's not even funny or informative. What's funny is that you actually believe the words you type in to these posts.
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:33 AM   #12
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Posting Russo propaganda should be banned from these forums, this guy is totally on another level of fail.

It's not even funny or informative. What's funny is that you actually believe the words you type in to these posts.
Funny that I "get it" and know how to make wrestling succesful when 99% the internet is brainwashed by meltzer and dont know jack,,,, funny that I aint stuck in the wrasslin bubble and think its real,,, sorry im not a rohbot and wwe fan boy lololol but the only person you need to feel sorry for is you traditionalists who have ruined the business,,, RUSSO OWNZ U
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Funny that I "get it" and know how to make wrestling succesful when 99% the internet is brainwashed by meltzer and dont know jack,,,, funny that I aint stuck in the wrasslin bubble and think its real,,, sorry im not a rohbot and wwe fan boy lololol but the only person you need to feel sorry for is you traditionalists who have ruined the business,,, RUSSO OWNZ U
I'm sorry if you can't make out what is trying to be said in general response to all your posts, but honestly we aren't what you accuse us to be. We are fuckin' wrestling fans. Wrestling brings family and friends and even half-minded simpletons like you together for entertainment.

We are here to discuss current and past kickass moments and memories of our favorite superstars, and also discuss the future. What you will post before, now, and in the future will be laughed at and frowned upon, hell you might get famous for one minute in your life. That has to feel good on your brain.

My main point is that I'm going to be either ridiculed for entertaining your posts(obviously you're trolling, because no one would carry on in real life in Vince Russo's buttocks), or triumphed for putting down a freaking idiot who comes into these beloved forums and bashes us for liking WWE/ROH/TNA.
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I'm sorry if you can't make out what is trying to be said in general response to all your posts, but honestly we aren't what you accuse us to be. We are fuckin' wrestling fans. Wrestling brings family and friends and even half-minded simpletons like you together for entertainment.

We are here to discuss current and past kickass moments and memories of our favorite superstars, and also discuss the future. What you will post before, now, and in the future will be laughed at and frowned upon, hell you might get famous for one minute in your life. That has to feel good on your brain.

My main point is that I'm going to be either ridiculed for entertaining your posts(obviously you're trolling, because no one would carry on in real life in Vince Russo's buttocks), or triumphed for putting down a freaking idiot who comes into these beloved forums and bashes us for liking WWE/ROH/TNA.

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Posting Russo propaganda should be banned from these forums, this guy is totally on another level of fail.

It's not even funny or informative. What's funny is that you actually believe the words you type in to these posts.

Make up your mind,,,,,,, I would love to be entertained in wrestling in the future too but the people running the business have no idea what they are doing and continue to cater to u internet traditionalists and giving lame storylines and gimmicks and keeping the traditionalist mentality,,, and the product will never grow this way and ratings will continue to decline,,,,, sry bud but I come with the facts and they piss u off so bad,,, that you resort to these insults against me,,, call me troll call me sock (whatever the f--- that means) ,,,, I DONT GIVE A F--- IM THE REALEST POSTER HERE,,,, what dont u get about that,,,,,, I dont sit back and read the wrestling observer ,,, i dont sit and stop watch the time minutes of wrestling on a show,,, i dont get mad over wrasslers winning and losing fake title belts,,,,,,, and i dont come up with new gimmick for wrassler "make him a intense wrestler #43344369022 " you dont have a f---ing clue about what works in wrestling and you are the reason its in the shape it is today,,, CONGRATS U KILLED THE BUSINESS
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Make up your mind,,,,,,, I would love to be entertained in wrestling in the future too but the people running the business have no idea what they are doing and continue to cater to u internet traditionalists and giving lame storylines and gimmicks and keeping the traditionalist mentality,,, and the product will never grow this way and ratings will continue to decline,,,,, sry bud but I come with the facts and they piss u off so bad,,, that you resort to these insults against me,,, call me troll call me sock (whatever the f--- that means) ,,,, I DONT GIVE A F--- IM THE REALEST POSTER HERE,,,, what dont u get about that,,,,,, I dont sit back and read the wrestling observer ,,, i dont sit and stop watch the time minutes of wrestling on a show,,, i dont get mad over wrasslers winning and losing fake title belts,,,,,,, and i dont come up with new gimmick for wrassler "make him a intense wrestler #43344369022 " you dont have a f---ing clue about what works in wrestling and you are the reason its in the shape it is today,,, CONGRATS U KILLED THE BUSINESS
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Does Dave Meltzer even know or even CARE who the fuck you are, TNA(P)RICK?! Get off of his nuts.
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:53 AM   #19
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Does Dave Meltzer even know or even CARE who the fuck you are, TNA(P)RICK?! Get off of his nuts.
Send good ol dave a email or call him sometime,,, he will have plenty to say about me,, he has been trying to stop me from speaking the truth for years and has attempted to have me arrested on numerous occasions,,, Daves a piece of filth liar scumbag like cornette,,, sry to burst ya bubble
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where's your proof that Meltzer is stopping you from doing anything... and if he is trying to have you arrested it means you are probably stalking him like the creeper you are
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Yeah, those facts with actual sources that make your hero out to be the lying dipshit that he is are a bitch to argue aren't they?
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GO LOOK AT YOUR OWN SOURCES,,, every time russo would leave after his 3 month stints the ratings would fall,, are you really that f---ing dumb that you cannot even read out of your own sources,, he said the truth in his interview u just are too much of a moron to understand the ratings when they are wrote down right in front of u,,,,,
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I would quote in my original post where I give clear details as to how the ratings were actually higher at times during his 3 month absence than they were with him there or how he completely gets the rating wrong for the Benoit-Bret Nitro but... Jesus Fucking Christ, are you really that deep in "LALALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING LALALALALALA!" to read numbers?
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:24 AM   #26
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I would quote in my original post where I give clear details as to how the ratings were actually higher at times during his 3 month absence than they were with him there or how he completely gets the rating wrong for the Benoit-Bret Nitro but... Jesus Fucking Christ, are you really that deep in "LALALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING LALALALALALA!" to read numbers?
He's clearly self-absorbed in his gimmick of being a Russo lackey. This type of behavior would of flew in the sinking ship days of a Russo led wCw.
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Oh your mad I just proved you wrong so you try to twist the numbers when they are RIGHT THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE,,,, my f------ lord
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LMFAO,,, I JUST PROVED YOU WRONG and you guys are still acting like you are right,,, Look at the god dang ratings for f--- sakes are you that blinded by meltzer,,, I swear,,,,,,,

Hey while your at it take a look at the WCW THUNDER ratings

http://www.twnpnews.com/information/WCW/thunder.shtml

LMFAO owned u again,,, getting tired of getting owned by Russo? Then quit your troll s--- and open your god da-m eyes . Swear to f----ing god ,,,,, you roh wwe botz make me so sick to my stomach
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LMFAO,,, I JUST PROVED YOU WRONG and you guys are still acting like you are right,,, Look at the god dang ratings for f--- sakes are you that blinded by meltzer,,, I swear,,,,,,,

Hey while your at it take a look at the WCW THUNDER ratings

http://www.twnpnews.com/information/WCW/thunder.shtml

LMFAO owned u again,,, getting tired of getting owned by Russo? Then quit your troll s--- and open your god da-m eyes . Swear to f----ing god ,,,,, you roh wwe botz make me so sick to my stomach
Your accusations and commas are amusing. You spit off the same crap in every post, and still think you are getting heat and exposure for yourself. The only person that can comprehend your posts are yourself, so congratulate yourself, treat yourself, take the Poster lady in your sig out for a nice dinner and then continue to keep your troll shit in your own sick twisted world.
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Your accusations and commas are amusing. You spit off the same crap in every post, and still think you are getting heat and exposure for yourself. The only person that can comprehend your posts are yourself, so congratulate yourself, treat yourself, take the Poster lady in your sig out for a nice dinner and then continue to keep your troll shit in your own sick twisted world.
You are a attention seeking pimple on meltzers a-- gtfo ,,,,,,,
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Funny, how after the whole "reboot" angle where all the titles were held up on April 10, 2000, until the end of August, 2000, Raw was still getting 6's and 7's in the ratings while Nitro was struggling to make 3 in the ratings
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Funny, how after the whole "reboot" angle where all the titles were held up on April 10, 2000, until the end of August, 2000, Raw was still getting 6's and 7's in the ratings while Nitro was struggling to make 3 in the ratings
Funny how the WWF was still riding the wave of RUSSO CREATED CHARACTERS and just brought back SCSA who Russo created ,,,,,, and now look at the WWE HAHAHA LMFAO name all the SCSA great moments after Russo left,,, haha oh yeah they could never come up with anything for him to do since and he became just another stale guy,,,,,,

Name the mega stars WWE have created since Russo left,,, oh ya u cant do that either cuz there are none,,,,,

RUSSO MADE ROCK UNDERTAKER SCSA MICKFOLEY DX VINCE MCMAHON,,,,,
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Alright, so we've got that out of the way. The rating for that episode was a 2.9. We're making progress...

NOW...

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During Russo's 3 months, the highest rating was that 3.4. The lowest? 2.8... that was 2 months into his "reign of excellence". Oh, and if you don't wanna do the math, that's also lower than that pitiful 2.9 that the Benoit-Bret Nitro got before he came in to save the day.
Now... do you comprehend this part? Am I wrong?
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Alright, so we've got that out of the way. The rating for that episode was a 2.9. We're making progress...

NOW...



Now... do you comprehend this part? Am I wrong?

HEY DO THE MATH AND LOOK AT HOW THE RATINGS WERE UP WHEN RUSSO WAS THERE AND THEN LOOK WHERE THEY WENT WHEN HE LEFT,,,,,
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... Are you saying I'm wrong on this point then?

I'm really trying to go slow so you can grasp these simple concepts. lol
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Let's try again...

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During Russo's 3 months, the highest rating was that 3.4. The lowest? 2.8... that was 2 months into his "reign of excellence". Oh, and if you don't wanna do the math, that's also lower than that pitiful 2.9 that the Benoit-Bret Nitro got before he came in to save the day.
Seriously. If I'm wrong, feel free to say so. If not, feel free to continue to evade the facts and live in your own little world.
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Yes you are wrong you are not looking at the ratings,,,,, you are trying to spin one off numbers into bulls--t that they arnt,,,,,,, im telling you to look at the months and look at the big picture in the ratings,,, and also go look at the WCW Thunder ratings,,, its clear as daylight but u just seem to want to argue over something even though in your mind you know your wrong,,, its very frustrating for me man,,,,,

sry for calling you a moron earlier ive just met so many people like yourself who just seem to read what they want to read and not actually look at the ratings it amazes me ,,,,

and do not forget Russo wrote 3 months at 3 seperate times,,, the last because he had to go home with concussion,,,
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Yes you are wrong you are not looking at the ratings,,,
And with this, there is nothing I can do. I literally stated a fact with the ratings laid out to back them up and your response is "You're wrong". What I said is not subjective. If you look at the ratings I pointed out, it's right there. It's hard to get big picture when you ignore clear facts that are right there for you to see.

Russo chose to pick three ratings numbers to say "I improved ratings". I'm going much MUCH bigger picture while still using his own method.

But like I said, if you're denying objective facts, then you're beyond help. It's literally as if I'm saying "The sky is blue. Just look up." and your response is "No it isn't!"
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What does any of this have to do with being a good announcer!?
I have no idea. I was just skimming through and saw the Russo video and decided to call out the bullshit that followed.
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I have no idea. I was just skimming through and saw the Russo video and decided to call out the bullshit that followed.

More like you got called out on your bull--- dude,,,
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