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Old 10-09-2012, 01:22 AM   #321
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Remember, WrestleMania is still roughly 6 months away. A 1/2 year is plenty of time to build Ryback into more than just JabroniCrusher5000.
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:23 AM   #322
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God, that ending to RAW was the most electric/goosebumps inducing segment I can remember in a long time.
Atleast without having a guy like Rock or Brock returning or something like that.

I can't remember the last time a Raw ended with an atmosphere and intensity like that... and it was basically because of guys that are there week in week out. No shocking returns or anything. Brilliant.
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:28 AM   #323
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Skip Sheffield breaking his leg right as The Nexus started might have been the luckiest break (*rimshot*) of his career.
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:28 AM   #324
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Atleast without having a guy like Rock or Brock returning or something like that.

I can't remember the last time a Raw ended with an atmosphere and intensity like that... and it was basically because of guys that are there week in week out. No shocking returns or anything. Brilliant.

except Vinny Mac of course
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:28 AM   #325
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:40 AM   #327
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except Vinny Mac of course
Vince McMahon is what surprised me the most. As much shit as we all give Vince for "not getting it anymore" or whatever, the son of a bitch knows how to work a crowd and get them into something. I wasn't sure at first, but Punk vs Vince ended up being the perfect catalyst for all this. Vince only turned the tables when Punk got cocky and talked shit with Vince on his shoulders forever. Vince then went batshit, but ability/heelish intelligence overcame heart and toughness until the next big thing came to make the save.

I'm sure St. Jimmy and others will bitch about Punk being made to look weak or whatever, but Vince McMahon has a special place in the wrestling fan psyche, so it worked. Punk looks like his arrogance/confidence/ego/ruthlessness/viciousness/etc. has reached "critical mass" and here we are at the tipping point before a PPV and they have built in storylines that this could go after said PPV.
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except Vinny Mac of course
Of course.

Though the biggest crowd reaction came from Ryback clotheslining Punk after Cena threw him back in.
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CM Punk's last tweet...




Laughed out loud. Then I realized that it was written after he slapped Vince. Then I laughed again at the irony.
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:50 AM   #331
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I think for Survivor Series, if they could do Punk/Lesnar/Big Show/Heyman/Del Rio vs Ryback/HHH/Sheamus/Vince/Orton and have it be the first ever Survivor Series match to end in a no contest/clusterfuck/apocolyptic brawl it would be amazing. As soon as Lesnar/Ryback are in the ring, you have it turn into a clusterfuck before they ever touch. Then, just as it is broken up and Sheamus is left recovering...



Dolph Ziggler cashes in the Money in the Bank contract to win the World Heavyweight Championship so fans don't feel jipped that the PPV ended in a complete clusterfuck.
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:54 AM   #332
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pretty sure the 'shaky cam' part at the end was just an effect. they cut to it, presumably accidentally, before anything big really happened and it was shaking as hard as it was during the huge ryback clothesline. well played, though, cause the crowd was hot and it made it looks that much more genuine
Crowd was definitely going nuts, not an "effect"
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You were in the unfortunate position of being "lol I'm so right and if you don't agree with me, you're an idiot" and then hilariously wrong on the same topic as the very fun to make a fool out of St. Jimmy. That's an easy way to be sig-worthy. If it was only you, it probably wouldn't have been as memorable but to be fair, I had to put quotes from both of you thus dragging you into it with him.
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Survivor Series 2012

Traditional Survivor Series Match (Team Heyman vs Team Vince)
CM Punk/Brock Lesnar/Big Show/Alberto Del Rio/Paul Heyman
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Ryback/Triple H/Sheamus/Randy Orton/Vince McMahon
  • Team Heyman wins - Punk doesn't defend WWE Championship until Royal Rumble versus The Rock, Big Show names stipulation vs Sheamus at TLC, ADR is #30 in Royal Rumble, Paul Heyman becomes RAW GM, Brock Lesnar gets $1,000,000.
  • Team McMahon wins - Ryback gets title shot at TLC, Triple H gets another 1 on 1 match with Brock Lesnar at TLC, Sheamus gets to name stipulation for championship match at TLC, Orton gets ADR 1 on 1 at TLC, Vince McMahon will get to fire Heyman and Lesnar pays back his contract.
  • Vince will only agree to stipulations if Heyman is in match himself.
  • "Most Important Survivor Series Match since 2001 when WWE and WCW fought for their survival!"
Street Fight
John Cena vs Wade Barrett

WWE Tag Team Championships - Titles Can Change Hands on DQ
Kane/Daniel Bryan (c)
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Rhodes Scholars

Tag Team Turmoil Match - #1 Contender for Tag Titles at TLC
Sin Cara/Rey Mysterio
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Titus O'Neal/Darren Young
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Primo/Epico
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Jimmy Uso/Jey Uso

WWE Intercontinental Championship - No Disqualfication
The Miz (c) vs Kofi Kingston

WWE United States Championship - Triple Threat Match
Antonio Cesaro (c) vs Brodus Clay vs R-Truth

Traditional Survivor Series Match (Team Show Off vs Team Jack Off)
Dolph Ziggler/Heath Slater/Drew McIntyre/Jinder Mahal/Tensai
vs
Zack Ryder/Santino Marella/Tyson Kidd/Justin Gabriel/Great Khali

I know it would be a huge risk to have a match built on such huge stipulations end in a no contest, but I think it would help build how volatile all these guys are and the heels could justifiably complain and the faces can justifiably complain about the heels complaining. You could tease the WWE Board of Directors forcing Punk/Ryback at TLC but then they do something else. For example, Heyman maneuvers to become GM and Brock agrees to stay full-time in WWE through the rest of his contract. (Of course, Paul Heyman gives him nights off/etc.) It would create buzz, commotion, and continue to build it to where the people HAVE to finally see Ryback/Punk or Ryback/Lesnar or whatever.
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Ryback is following 11 people. One of whom being porn star Lisa Ann. FEED HIM MORE!
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Its obvious that punk will take the less tan 100% cena over Ryback, but it sets the wheels in motion for ryback's main event push that will probably kick into full gear when he wins the rumble...
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Just wanna say that was one of the most rowdy crowds I've seen on Raw in a long while. Reminded me of the Nitro where Goldberg won the title.
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This was the last time Raw was in Sacramento, I believe (or at least the last time I was there) and the crowd absolutely erupted at the 10:52 mark. The video isn't that great in quality, but as I mentioned, the place was literally shaking...
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Old 10-09-2012, 03:51 AM   #345
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Looks like that idiot behind him with the sign was the one pushing him.
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Punk pushed the guy with the sign first, so the guy pushed him back, then the guy with the sun glasses hit Punk in the back of the head, by accident it almost seems, and then Punk retaliated.
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He got pushed a second time before sun glasses guy hit him in the head, but I can't tell by who
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Apparently a guy in a white/grey shirt, behind sunglasses-guy, gave Punk the bird and slapped Punk on the back of the head at the same time as sunglasses guy was putting on his glasses. You can sort of make that out in the video, but it is hard to tell.

Either way, sunglasses guy is gonna have some free Wrestlemania tickets by next week.
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Definitely looked like the guy with the sunglasses was just putting his hands down and accidentally hit the back of Punk's head in the process. The guy on the side who pushed him should have gotten punched in the face though.
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Apparently a guy in a white/grey shirt, behind sunglasses-guy, gave Punk the bird and slapped Punk on the back of the head at the same time as sunglasses guy was putting on his glasses. You can sort of make that out in the video, but it is hard to tell.
No, sunglasses guy definitely was the one who hits the back of his head. He's doing some hands up gesture toward the ring, probably thinking the camera was still on him and then he puts his hand down and hits Punk in the head.
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And didn't realise until this video how obnoxious fans are when the wrestlers get into the crowd.
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Why security wasn't up there, I have no idea. Shitty planning.
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I hadn't even noticed the guy in the long sleeves. It really looks like he pushed sunglasses guy into Punk as he was putting on his sunglasses. But yeah, that guy with the sign that shoved Punk is the guy who started all of it IMO
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Oh shit. Just saw the guy behind sunglasses guy too. It looked like he pushed Punk and in the process pushed sunglasses guy forward to cause him to hit Punk in the back of the head.

Still... fuck that little shit to Punk's right. Goddamn kids.
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That being said, as long as Punk reaches out to sunglasses guy, I don't think it'll end up being a big deal.
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And pays to replace the sunglasses of course. Let's not forget about the sunglasses in all of this commotion.
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The guy in the white is the dick who kept hitting Punk. He did a dick move and hit Punk again but did it from behind sunglasses man.

Sunglasses man was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. You can't really be pissed at Punk because of what happened.

Punk will probably explain what happened to Vince, then when this video is pretty much used as evidence and things are clear, Punk will probably apologise to the right people, the fan will get some free WWE stuff and this incident will be forgotten about.

It was just a case of mistaken identity.
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