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Old 11-01-2014, 07:36 AM   #1
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I think this explains why journalism ethics didn't quite fit the bill for her..
Yeah I always take the side of a pussy who won't show his face when he is saying something and talks via a computer voice.

Not.
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Old 11-01-2014, 03:35 PM   #2
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Yeah I always take the side of a pussy who won't show his face when he is saying something and talks via a computer voice.

Not.
Fair enough.

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Old 10-30-2014, 08:21 PM   #3
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I don't see how shutting down a site would be a good call for the movement. I don't think shutting down a site is their go to move, I've mostly seen that they subvert attempts to hide information. I would call that their 'signature move'.

TotalBiscuits interview with Stephen Totilo was very good and confirmed a lot of my views on him as an editor and person. It also helped me consider a lot of my views (as this thread as).

If anything this movement really galvanized my own beef with the game industry and many times either here or other places did people seem more receptive to my own issues than GG's issues (an SJW gamer also agreed with my concerns that weren't lockstep with GG).

Not sure where to go with that as these are things people pointed out for years and were dismissed - only to now be the 'real issues' GG should be focused on. Kinda heart warming, actually.
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Old 10-30-2014, 09:51 PM   #4
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I don't see how shutting down a site would be a good call for the movement. I don't think shutting down a site is their go to move, I've mostly seen that they subvert attempts to hide information. I would call that their 'signature move'.
Exactly, it wouldn't. They don't care enough to bother with it. Shutting down a site is not just "shutting down a site" when that group does it. Who said it was their go to? It is, in nearly all cases, only the beginning.

From my standpoint, there is nothing else to be said about this topic. I hope only that one day, people can wear big boy pants and not be so over-reactive to the opinions of others, especially in such a petty arena.
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Old 10-30-2014, 09:27 PM   #5
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Old 10-30-2014, 09:32 PM   #6
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Anita Sarkeesian is a better gamer than you are
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Old 10-30-2014, 09:33 PM   #8
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Yes, she is and she enjoys killing those strippers in the Hitman Absolution game which in reality, I did the opposite of her playthrough. Hahaha..

As for online gaming: I have an account on this site: http://assaultfire.ph/ I wanna frag your ass. Sign up, maggot.

If Anita is such a good gamer, I challenge HER TO MOOOORTALLL KOMBBAAAT!!!
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Old 10-30-2014, 11:20 PM   #9
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Old 10-30-2014, 11:23 PM   #10
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Old 10-31-2014, 01:18 AM   #11
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Spot the difference.
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Old 10-31-2014, 10:19 AM   #12
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Spot the difference.
The fact that someone took the time to make this storyline poster troubles me.

I think you're forgetting the fact that some of us here are still trying to figure out why it's ok to even threaten women over something like video games, a medium for fun.

It's a well known fact that sometimes women say things that they don't mean. Don't go to bed angry with them, maybe it's their time of the month. Anita just needs a man, her last one betrayed her in a video game perhaps. Maybe she got buried hard in an online game. Maybe she lost her good D. Find her the good D and the negativity will subside, you'll be able to resume playing w/e game you desire until your master deems necessary to tell you otherwise.
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I'd tell you to stop posting a bunch of rubbish propaganda, but propaganda typically tends to be persuasive in illustrating a point
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Old 10-31-2014, 01:52 AM   #14
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That seemed pretty clear. And you can go through both their twitter posts and see a clear difference in tone.
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Does anyone blame Anita for not wanting to discuss things with people like Raven Reaper.
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Old 10-31-2014, 02:02 PM   #16
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Does anyone blame Anita for not wanting to discuss things with people like Raven Reaper.
She doesn't have debates with anyone. No matter which side you're on her avoidance of any kind of rebuttal after two years is an issue. There's been very good rebuttals she or the gaming press refuses to address. Consider an Atheist or Christian refusing to engage challenges on YouTube or Twitter - they'd be discarded.
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That's nice of her to adopt Lingo but she's no Madonna.
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Old 10-31-2014, 02:34 PM   #18
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I think you missed the joke......
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The joke was a poke at Raven, what you touched on a serious issue about her.
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This will make it completely unfunny but let me explain this for you. Raven, who we have all seen in this thread is not the best person to discuss anything with, made a post about how terrible Anita is for not doing a discussion. Now, if Raven came up to you and wanted to discuss this topic would you want to? Why should she? Hence, it is ironic Raven is posting that picture.

Or we can just get back to serious business video game reviews. Sorry for getting off topic. Once, this video game called Tomba received a rating of 8 on game informer! Those pricks, I bought the game and wasted my allowance money because it was so terrible. That guy needs to be fired for doing such a horrible, serious business, video game review!
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That person was probably a female too because they can't write serious business reviews for anything!
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This will make it completely unfunny but let me explain this for you. Raven, who we have all seen in this thread is not the best person to discuss anything with, made a post about how terrible Anita is for not doing a discussion. Now, if Raven came up to you and wanted to discuss this topic would you want to? Why should she? Hence, it is ironic Raven is posting that picture.
Now it's unfunny? To each his own, I guess.

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Or we can just get back to serious business video game reviews. Sorry for getting off topic. Once, this video game called Tomba received a rating of 8 on game informer! Those pricks, I bought the game and wasted my allowance money because it was so terrible. That guy needs to be fired for doing such a horrible, serious business, video game review!
Why are you bringing up review scores? I personally don't care for them and GG isn't concerned with review scores either.

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That person was probably a female too because they can't write serious business reviews for anything!
Women are perfectly capable of writing game reviews, what are you on about?
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I've written quite a bit about this subject here and I'm trying to figure out why you're bringing up review scores and women writing them as some kind of 'gotcha'. You're the first guy to bring that up in here.
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You fail to see this as serious business. I am sorry.
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ANITA DOES NOT ADOPT LINGO

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FACT NUMBER 1 ANITA DISCUSSES
FACT NUMBER 2 ANITA DOESN'T DISCUSS

DOES ANITA ADOPT LINGO?

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Old 10-31-2014, 04:10 PM   #28
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Says a big fucking dweeb who cares about the most meaningless stuff in a way that makes no sense.

Also a male ie the most privileged position in humanity.
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:14 PM   #31
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Haha CONVINCE OUR EBONIES

Why don't you convince your ebonies how ethics in games journalism matters
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:15 PM   #32
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'YOUR' ebonies?

Your twitter is fucking hilarious.
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:53 PM   #33
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Did you triangulate that relativism?

Sounds like you like subjectivity.
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Old 10-31-2014, 08:16 PM   #34
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Those privileged white video games people should just take those rape and murder threats like men.

Because fuck women, right? RIGHT!?
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Old 10-31-2014, 08:54 PM   #35
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Those privileged white video games people should just take those rape and murder threats like men.

Because fuck women, right? RIGHT!?
I didn't mention women.

There's a trend of people speaking about how dangerous their lives are (from coffee shops, Nintendo stores, and cyber cafes) and really weaponizing the public response to harassment and death threats and such. Law enforcement makes the distinction between credible death threats and trolling for a reason. It's also why we didn't hear about the GDC bomb threat until six months later. Brianna Wu's actions sense her tweeting of death threats would go against what officials would tell her to do in the case of credible death threats.

After some time with no deaths, arrests, or so much as a black eye dealt to either side and law enforcement not confirming any credible threat to anybody - the weaponizing of victimhood will weaken the validity of harassment and threats. Cry wolf and all that.

More to my tweet; the people speaking most about how scared they are (so scared they tweet from bars with their buddies), are people who live otherwise safe lives and would be least likely to encounter actual danger. So yeah, take death threat trolls like a man/woman. Your issue with my post is the sort of thing Rhiannon would have appreciated, but only now are some of you concerned about harassment.
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Old 10-31-2014, 10:27 PM   #36
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I didn't mention women.

There's a trend of people speaking about how dangerous their lives are (from coffee shops, Nintendo stores, and cyber cafes) and really weaponizing the public response to harassment and death threats and such. Law enforcement makes the distinction between credible death threats and trolling for a reason. It's also why we didn't hear about the GDC bomb threat until six months later. Brianna Wu's actions sense her tweeting of death threats would go against what officials would tell her to do in the case of credible death threats.

After some time with no deaths, arrests, or so much as a black eye dealt to either side and law enforcement not confirming any credible threat to anybody - the weaponizing of victimhood will weaken the validity of harassment and threats. Cry wolf and all that.

More to my tweet; the people speaking most about how scared they are (so scared they tweet from bars with their buddies), are people who live otherwise safe lives and would be least likely to encounter actual danger. So yeah, take death threat trolls like a man/woman. Your issue with my post is the sort of thing Rhiannon would have appreciated, but only now are some of you concerned about harassment.
My issue with your post is that you have an issue with people really not enjoying receiving abusive and threatening messages via the internet. How do you measure danger if somebody can easily give away details of your personal life, including the address of your family home, to the entire internet, which as I'm sure you're aware does contain some very dangerous and sick individuals. Even if it is "just" trolling, you have to consider the whole damaging aspect of people saying such horrible shit to you on a daily basis. How exactly SHOULD you deal with a death threat? Talk me through the protocol.
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Old 10-31-2014, 11:39 PM   #37
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My issue with your post is that you have an issue with people really not enjoying receiving abusive and threatening messages via the internet.
That is not my stance, I'm sorry if it seemed that way. I don't think people should like it, but stopping the world over it is overblown. There are degrees.

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How do you measure danger if somebody can easily give away details of your personal life, including the address of your family home, to the entire internet, which as I'm sure you're aware does contain some very dangerous and sick individuals.
I understand how doxxing is very threatening, but consider the difference between Quinn being doxxed and Nero having a syringe sent to his house. One person used the issue to spread her name around and ignored proper channels to deal with that, the other person took it seriously and refused to publicize it.

One side is making this a game, and it's the side who law enforcement deemed safe. Brianna Wu left her home of her own volition.

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Even if it is "just" trolling, you have to consider the whole damaging aspect of people saying such horrible shit to you on a daily basis. How exactly SHOULD you deal with a death threat? Talk me through the protocol.
Contact the FBI, do not publicize it, and definitely don't use it as a reason to spread political agendas.
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Old 11-01-2014, 07:52 AM   #38
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That is not my stance, I'm sorry if it seemed that way. I don't think people should like it, but stopping the world over it is overblown. There are degrees.



I understand how doxxing is very threatening, but consider the difference between Quinn being doxxed and Nero having a syringe sent to his house. One person used the issue to spread her name around and ignored proper channels to deal with that, the other person took it seriously and refused to publicize it.

One side is making this a game, and it's the side who law enforcement deemed safe. Brianna Wu left her home of her own volition.



Contact the FBI, do not publicize it, and definitely don't use it as a reason to spread political agendas.
Stop victim blaming.

You're not talking about ethics in games journalism. Just how some women are doing things wrong and not thinking about things triangularly.
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Old 11-01-2014, 02:14 PM   #39
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That is not my stance, I'm sorry if it seemed that way. I don't think people should like it, but stopping the world over it is overblown. There are degrees.



I understand how doxxing is very threatening, but consider the difference between Quinn being doxxed and Nero having a syringe sent to his house. One person used the issue to spread her name around and ignored proper channels to deal with that, the other person took it seriously and refused to publicize it.

One side is making this a game, and it's the side who law enforcement deemed safe. Brianna Wu left her home of her own volition.



Contact the FBI, do not publicize it, and definitely don't use it as a reason to spread political agendas.
Kalyx I've had to read countless articles about women being threatened on the internet and exactly how ineffective/uncaring the authorities can be about it. I live in a province where a young girls suicide due to online bullying/harassment led to the formation of a new police unit specifically for dealing with online harassment. A unit which did basically nothing when a local woman tried to report the harassment she was receiving from her ex-boyfriend. They wouldn't even do anything when she knew who the person was, can you imagine the authorities doing very much when the harassers are anonymous?

I guess my point is it's incredibly stupid to say there is a "proper" way to deal with these things and maybe just a little bit ridiculous to suggest that way is going through the police. Maybe publicizing these things and getting the support of the general public to shame the people who would do these IS a reasonable thing to do.

Here's the article from my local alt-weekly, there are hundreds more just like it from other cities.

http://www.thecoast.ca/halifax/the-a...nt?oid=4425956
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