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Old 08-07-2016, 11:29 PM   #1
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I wasn't personally invested. You mistook being objective about what was being said as me being invested. I posted z review of it in the rate the last movie thread. It was ok. Nothing special. But I had more fun watching that movie than Suicide Squad. I was actually bored in SS. For a lot of it.
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Old 08-07-2016, 11:32 PM   #2
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You were not being objective. You were being very emotional.

That said, I have seen neither film yet. I wish they were both good films as I still plan to watch them eventually.
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Old 08-08-2016, 12:05 AM   #3
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Perhaps you took it as emotionally. It's not what I was attempting.

I'd say give them a look. If you had to choose I'd say Ghostbusters is more deserving of your money. It's much less of a cluster fuck and, imo, more enjoyable.
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Movie was better than what I anticipated but nothing special. Wish Will Smith wasn't cast, I enjoyed Harley Quinn, Joker was ok Leto did fine, I just don't like the tattoos or his teeth.
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Feel like he had such little time in no way could I judge his performance. He was interesting but never got past that due to having a very minor role.
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I'll agree could have had more Joker. Leto said they filmed enough to do a Joker movie and they cut a lot out. Could have more in the DVD release like Dawn of Justice though.
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List of supposed deleted scenes. Doesn't sound like there will be a Directors Cut as David Ayers has said that the theatrical release was his cut. Might see some in deleted scenes when it comes out on DVD and Blue Ray.

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“In early cuts, the movie’s opening detailed June Moon’s possession by Enchantress in real time. Reshoots reshuffled the scene to be later in the movie in flashback form in favour of a new opening centered on Deadshot.”
“Deadshot in the prison cell, watching the rain fall and thinking about his daughter.”
“El Diablo observing the flame of a lit match, before putting it out due to his vow to no longer use his powers.”
“El Diablo being escorted to a training center by being placed in a tube that fills with water to quell his flames, and then unceremoniously dropped onto the ground.”
“Early interviews showed Captain Boomerang’s racism and sexism, but the movie is light on examples of such behavior, which have apparently been deleted. Most of them were reportedly directed at Katana, to whom Boomerang is attracted to.”
“Early reports indicated more backstory for Killer Croc, revealing that he entire life as a social outcast due to his physical appearance and has convinced himself that he is beautiful in his own way. Croc crossed paths with Batman while working as muscle-for-hire for numerous Gotham’s crime bosses, while secretly planning to take over one day. There were also scenes displaying his affinity for making sculptures out of discarded materials. Aside from jokes about Croc viewing himself as ‘beautiful,’ one of these were retained in the final cut.”
“Also deleted was a scene where he becomes sick at the helicopter escort to Midway City, throws up half-digested pieces of goat, and then eats them again, disgusting the nearby Navy Seals.”
“Early cuts reportedly included a passing reference to Slipknot being serial rapist, likely to further paint him as unsympathetic to the audience ahead of his own death.”
“More scenes of Rick Flag and June Moon’s romantic relationship, including him reading the files of the Suicide Squad recruits after Waller delivers them to him.”
“Another scene where Flag and Moon are out on a date.”
“Extended scene of Joker interrogating Captain Griggs, including the line, “I can’t wait to show you my toys,” which was in every trailer, but was removed from the movie.”
“Joker and his men escaping after shooting up a restaurant. Harley, who is already affiliated with the Joker, follows them on a motorcycle and intercepts their car. Joker bangs his head against the glass in frustration.”
“Joker and Harley then get into a fight, which ends with Harley pointing a gun at Joker’s head. Joker sweet-talks Harley into lowering the gun, charming her, then backhands her across the face. Afterwards he sweet-talks her again and they kiss.”
“Extended Ace Chemicals scene where Harley jumps into the chemicals. More bits of dialogue from Joker.”
“Extended Batmobile chase scene with more interaction between Joker and Harley. One of the examples, presented in all the trailers, is the Joker punching the roof of his car.”
“Harley using her baseball bat as a mock gun to play shoot at invisible foes.”
“Extended scene of Joker breaking into the nanobomb manufacture facility to arrange for Harley’s neck-bomb to be disabled.”
“More interactions between Harley and Boomerang. Early cuts apparently included her really disliking him despite growing affectionate to all the other members of the squad.”
“Extended bar scene with Harley taking everyone’s orders. Deadshot calls for a shot, Katana wants whiskey, Croc and Boomerang settle for beer, Harley asks Diablo wants and he prefers water which she jokes, “is a good idea.” The scene was featured in the trailers, but in the movie it cuts directly to Deadshot’s speech about them all almost pulling the mission off.”
“Removed several scenes with the Joker to repaint his relationship with Harley as more loving rather than abusive.”
“Joker and Harley get into an argument after he rescues her in the hijacked helicopter. In early cuts he reportedly pushes her out to kill her, then the helicopter gets shot down. This was apparently reworked into the helicopter getting shot down first and Joker pushing her out to save her.”
“Joker returns during the final battle in the subway station, face half-burnt from the helicopter crash, which apparently leads to a brief altercation with the Squad. He calls for Harley to escape with him but she refuses for once in order to help her friends, and the Joker escapes after throwing a live grenade at the group to cover his own escape.”
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Suicide Squad was awesome, critics annoy me when it comes to reviewing 95% of movies but overall I love it.

I thought everyone nailed it mainly Smith & Margot
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Suicide Squad was awesome, critics annoy me when it comes to reviewing 95% of movies but overall I love it.

I thought everyone nailed it mainly Smith & Margot
Well, the problem is the trailers. They hire these people to splice together these incredible trailers. The trailers become so good that the movie cant possibly live up to the hype and then leaves itself vulnerable to bad reviews because of such.
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Harley Quinn still seems weird without her thick accent.
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Just saw this movie. I must say that I enjoyed it. Was it perfect? No. It kept me entertained, though.
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How was Joker? Feel like Leto did a TON of work only for a lot of content to get cut.
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And no one else matters to me in that movie. Maybe Harley, but I already feel like I'm watching a different version without her yelling "MISTAH JAY!!!!"
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And no one else matters to me in that movie. Maybe Harley, but I already feel like I'm watching a different version without her yelling "MISTAH JAY!!!!"
I though she sounded pretty good especially with the Mistah J line. Myself I liked the gangster Joker.
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Joker still looks dumb as hell as a "gangsta", and most of the time doesn't really feel like The Joker and more like a "gangsta" mob boss, but then other times he does feel like The Joker (but just looking dumb).
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Joker still looks dumb as hell as a "gangsta", and most of the time doesn't really feel like The Joker and more like a "gangsta" mob boss, but then other times he does feel like The Joker (but just looking dumb).

Even bangin a Rick Ross joint on the soundtrack, if I am not mistaken.
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I really liked the movie. Heck, I am genuinely interested in more of this Joker as well. Screw the critics.
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The trailer has zero to do with critical reception. It just wasn't a very good movie and was reviewed as such. The Dark Knight trilogy had stellar trailers and still received wide spread critical praise.
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I do love how DC fans get so wound up by their movies getting poor/mixed reviews.

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I do love how DC fans get so wound up by their movies getting poor/mixed reviews.

Some of the stuff I read online is hilarious.
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The petition to shut down Rotten Tomatoes was hilarious. The conspiracy theory that Rotten Tomatoes is out to get D.C. is even funnier, since Warner owns a third of RT's parent site, fandango.

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I'm not a DC fan boy, I like both Marvel and DC. I just think DC makes movies feel more like a comic book and I like them. I like the Marvel movies as well but these DC movies just fit me better. A lot of critics say there was no plot or story which is just stupid. I'm not sure what movie they were watching or if they even watched it.
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I'm not a DC fan boy, I like both Marvel and DC. I just think DC makes movies feel more like a comic book and I like them. I like the Marvel movies as well but these DC movies just fit me better. A lot of critics say there was no plot or story which is just stupid. I'm not sure what movie they were watching or if they even watched it.
Its not that the plot is non existant, its that it's generic and paper thin.
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Well I've seen numerous reviews that claim there isn't a plot. The only reviews that really matter though are audience reviews which have been mostly positive.
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No, they've been mostly mixed. 6.7 on metacritic for example.
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No, they've been mostly mixed. 6.7 on metacritic for example.
Of the user reviews on metacritic 230 are positive while 87 are mixed with only 76 being negative. 6.7 is the average rating.
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Of the user reviews on metacritic 230 are positive while 87 are mixed with only 76 being negative. 6.7 is the average rating.
6.7 is a mixed rating therefore the average rating is mixed.
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Curious as to why you feel like DC Movies feel more like a comic book. Please list your reasons and cite your sources.
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Just the way they are presented guess. Dawn of Justice felt like a comic book on the big screen to me. Could be that they have used a lot of source material in the movie to and some scenes have been straight from het comics. Marvel movies are good, they just have more of a Hollywood feel than a comic book one.
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The plot was weak. The reason for the team to exist was non existent. Then all of a sudden, Enchantress, for some inexplicable reason, decides to turn on everyone and builds a nondescript machine of some sort that does something that's never quite explained.

The villain has no motive. The team is shoe horned into assembly. Flagg and Moon'sc relationship is never expanded. The Joker was completely useless to the story and entirely unneeded. The only character with any real heft was Deadshot. And to a smaller, last minute extent. Diablo.

It was also poorly paced. The beginning with all the origin stories was ok, but Wallerc repeating herself in back to back scenes was redundant. Then they start to recruit the squad for no reason. There's no imminent threat. So what was the point? They weren't needed until after the heel turn.

The action itself was also boring. Not to mention, sending in 4 humans to fight these God like beings makes no sense. They talk about these meta humans. But only Diablo fits that bill. Killer Croc has a skin disease but they present him as a man reptile hybrid but if I recall correctly never actually explain that.

The movie's a big mess. Whether you can acknowledge that or not. You bypassed all the criticism in the BvS thread and made the same dumb remark that people go in looking for flaws when the reality is the flaws are right there front and center. You just choose to ignore them and instead of acknowledging them you pretend that a large contingent of people saying the same thing must be wrong.
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Echantress turning on everyone was not for an "inexplicable reason"..... just saying.....

The reason for the team to exist was also explained (in back to back scenes as you point out).
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Echantress turning on everyone was not for an "inexplicable reason"..... just saying.....

The reason for the team to exist was also explained (in back to back scenes as you point out).
Yeah,was a huge problem for me. They had the movie start 4 times, and repeated all the information in those opening serveral times during the movie. Awful wrting/editing.


Enchantress had motives, they were just bland. Painfully so.
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