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Old 10-18-2016, 10:22 AM   #1
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Raw just feels thrown together without any thought any more. I'm over the crusierweights, silly to change the ring like that every time. And having them be the last match of Raw is dumb. They tried to copy the CWC and its just not working. I don't think they should have held Goldburg til last either. Goldburg vsLesnar should be good though, no way they stink it up twice. Could care less about the women's Hell in the Cell. I just feel its to much to fast. They have never even had a cage match but that's what you get when the PPV is named after a gimmick match.
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I think there has been a women's cage match before.....with Lita and Trish? Maybe I'm wrong.
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Scratch that, it was victoria and lita:

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Old 10-18-2016, 01:10 PM   #4
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None of these woman have ever been in a cage match though. 13 years ago they had a women's cage match, why did they stop? I'm all for the women doing as much as the men but start them off with regular gimmick matches before you put them in a Hell in a Cell match. I'm sure they will have a good match but it just feels to forced in my opinion. As I said though when you have PPVs named after gimmick matches it kind of forces them to put them in a Cell.
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None of these woman have ever been in a cage match though. 13 years ago they had a women's cage match, why did they stop? I'm all for the women doing as much as the men but start them off with regular gimmick matches before you put them in a Hell in a Cell match. I'm sure they will have a good match but it just feels to forced in my opinion. As I said though when you have PPVs named after gimmick matches it kind of forces them to put them in a Cell.
Because for a dacade they hired and taught models to wrestle instead of hiring wrestlers.
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By the end of the year I expect them to be in an inferno match.
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By the end of the year I expect them to be in an inferno match.
So Sasha will need to wrestle some clothes to the ring?
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Maybe once Sister Abigail shows up.
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Goldberg presentation was excellent, only a geek would say it wasn't. I liked that he played up being a superhero to the kids. Will be interesting to see if WWE tries to keep him around as a special attraction for a couple Manias. I know he said this was his last deal, but that can easily be changed. Too bad the fans in Toronto will likely crap on him just cuz they think that are cooler than the room. Would be better if those fans weren't always trying to be the show. But we'll enjoy their money anyway.

Didn't see anything else this week, but I'm sure it was good.
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Goldberg presentation was excellent, only a geek would say it wasn't. I liked that he played up being a superhero to the kids. Will be interesting to see if WWE tries to keep him around as a special attraction for a couple Manias. I know he said this was his last deal, but that can easily be changed. Too bad the fans in Toronto will likely crap on him just cuz they think that are cooler than the room. Would be better if those fans weren't always trying to be the show. But we'll enjoy their money anyway.

Didn't see anything else this week, but I'm sure it was good.
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No I just give my opinion. They have given me enough.
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Goldberg wasn't as horrible as I expected, but I guess that's the benefit of no expectations.

The most bizarre thing to me though is Goldberg saying he wants to be a hero to the kids. Any kid under twelve definitely had no idea who that dude was. His own son hasn't even seen him wrestle. Seemed awkward how he kept picking up and hugging those very same kids out of the crowd, but I guess that's all minor. That wasn't a kid joke, btw. But it could have been. But I assure you, it wasn't.
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Goldberg better than I expected..... did seem to be profusely sweating and out of breath, but he's got awhile longer to "train" I guess...... real curious to see how it goes.....

Also it is obviously "working" for them......

Dude on my Facebook who hates everything and posts tons of anti-whatever memes, posted a link to a CBS Sports article about Golberg's return and wrote "Not gonna lie this gets me fired up for wrestling again. Finally something worth watching lol"
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Remember that time that Neville looked like he was gonna beat John Cena for the US Title until Rusev interfered and cost him the match....... and then Neville basically just said "whatever" and never challenged for a title again?
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Remember that time that Neville looked like he was gonna beat John Cena for the US Title until Rusev interfered and cost him the match....... and then Neville basically just said "whatever" and never challenged for a title again?
That was in Cincinnati. I was there. You wanna know the REAL crime here, though?

Cena's opponent literally the week before in the US Open Challenge was Dean Ambrose. That's right. Dean Ambrose FROM CINCINNATI, OHIO.

You know what Ambrose did that night? He had a handicap match against J & J security.

Why they didn't just flip Ambrose and Neville in those two weeks just boggles my mind. Seems like such a fucking layup. The crowd would have been shit hot for that match. And that Neville match was dope. Would have crushed the previous week for sure.
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Bo has been looking good. I'm interested in his Raw segments for the first time in forever.

I did kinda like Axel not being overly-douchey, too. Maybe he'll make a decent babyface.
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Bo has been looking good. I'm interested in his Raw segments for the first time in forever.

I did kinda like Axel not being overly-douchey, too. Maybe he'll make a decent babyface.
I feel like Bo's act is curtain jerker material, but maybe it will evolve with this more serious side. Just not sure where he fits in on RAW.
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Seems like they hit a homerun in terms of drawing in viewers with the Goldberg hype. Higher ratings for RAW than the baseball game. Very impressive.

Also, NFL must be terrible at booking now.
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Seems like they hit a homerun in terms of drawing in viewers with the Goldberg hype. Higher ratings for RAW than the baseball game. Very impressive.

Also, NFL must be terrible at booking now.
Only tied but didn't beat the baseball game from last night and only because WWE likes to split their hours. If they didn't, would have been lower than the ALCS game. Also helped Canada doesn't count for the ratings so MLB got nothing from Toronto's side of the market.


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Wow they actually recovered viewers in the 3rd hour
Even though it was very small still a really big surprise considering how rare that is for RAW these days.
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I feel like Bo's act is curtain jerker material, but maybe it will evolve with this more serious side. Just not sure where he fits in on RAW.
The card placement doesn't really bother me. I'm entertained by it.

As far as where he fits, I don't think that anything appears to really fit anywhere on Raw.
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Wow they actually recovered viewers in the 3rd hour
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Seems difficult to shoehorn all of those cruiserweights in in front of an audience where they are largely unknown and make more than a couple of them seem important.
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Seems difficult to shoehorn all of those cruiserweights in in front of an audience where they are largely unknown and make more than a couple of them seem important.
I would consider trying the cruisers from say 8 to 845. Treat it as its own show. That way they can change the rope colors once and be done with it.
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Yeah, Raw is botching them as expected and while I like that they tried to give them their own identity, they need to stop with the ring stuff. There's just such a gap between one match, then 20 minutes or so of commercials and backstage stuff so they can get the ring sorted.

Without the ring stuff, they can give them two segments to build on anyway. Like bin the Golden Truth segment or something.

Still, at least they're on NXT as well. Still not sure what to make of the lyric "And if your daddy's gone, but your mommas home we can bring it we ain't got no shame" is supposed to imply in Swanns music though.
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What about big opening segments?
Save those for 845-9. Almost treat it like how they used to do RAW and the War Zone back in the day. Give the CW hour their own opening, then do another open for the real stars at 845-9. I think kids would probably enjoy the cruisers and you can make those segments be 100% kid friendly. Then transition to a PG as little kids go to bed.
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Save those for 845-9. Almost treat it like how they used to do RAW and the War Zone back in the day. Give the CW hour their own opening, then do another open for the real stars at 845-9. I think kids would probably enjoy the cruisers and you can make those segments be 100% kid friendly. Then transition to a PG as little kids go to bed.

No one starts to tune in at 8:45
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Are the girls officially having a Hell in a Cell match?
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I think that's the best feud for one, to be honest. Sasha and Charlotte have been warring for years now.
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