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Old 11-01-2016, 01:35 AM   #321
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Her entrance with the zoom-in on the eyes is just awkward. She's still clunky in the ring and really green. She also doesn't know where the cameras are.
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Old 11-01-2016, 01:38 AM   #322
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Why is Nikki Bella SmackDown team captain? I actually missed the start of this. Is Mick Foley calling Bayley a weak link? That's smart.

1:44. She either forgets her lines or is trying to hold back her emotions. 2:00 she is laughing to try and cover it up. The acting so bad.
On Smackdown Natty had the idea of wanting to be captain but Bryan had the better idea of giving it to whoever won the match (Natty vs Nikki). Bryan also solved the problem of Smackdown having more than 5 women by making whoever lost the match would be off the team.
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Old 11-01-2016, 01:41 AM   #323
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They actually seem to be going forward with her as "Charlotte Flair." I guess they want that name recognition there so people know who she is.
Yeah..... weird though that her tron and name key still only say Charlotte......
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Old 11-01-2016, 01:43 AM   #324
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Watched it again, def think you are projecting things onto her......
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Far more interested in women segments than men segments these days...... unless Chris Jericho is talking.....
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On Smackdown Natty had the idea of wanting to be captain but Bryan had the better idea of giving it to whoever won the match (Natty vs Nikki). Bryan also solved the problem of Smackdown having more than 5 women by making whoever lost the match would be off the team.
Hmm. It's a real shame that Natalya won't be competing in that match in Toronto at Survivor Series. Maybe they give her a different match with some more spotlight? Nikki, Becky, Alexa, Naomi & Carmella...nope, that's all the girls. Unless they use Mickie or Asuka for the final Team SmackDown member.

Or...Natalya defects and joins Team RAW? Charlotte, Bayley, Nia Jax, Sasha & Nattie -- that takes it up to five.
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Old 11-01-2016, 01:46 AM   #327
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Watched it again, def think you are projecting things onto her......
Maybe. First time on the actual television looked really hokey. Playing it back it doesn't look so bad.
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Old 11-01-2016, 01:48 AM   #328
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Far more interested in women segments than men segments these days...... unless Chris Jericho is talking.....
Chris Jericho is the best thing on RAW. I'm kind of wishing that instead of Kevin Owens as Universal Champ, they actually did go further with the Jericho/Owens team. Jericho's stuff with The New Day would have been fucking sick.

You put the Universal Title on Brock Lesnar and give Brock a really long run of trying to make people care about that big red monstrosity. I think it would even add to things like Lesnar/Goldberg.
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Old 11-01-2016, 01:55 AM   #329
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What is the psychology behind that spot anyway?
Crowd-wise, just a big spot to please them. Match-wise, probably trying to daze his opponent enough for a possible count-out win or get the upper hand in the bout.

He's done it smoother before but this time didn't get the full rotation needed because he hit the apron. Big reason why Kendrick almost falls straight down.

Gran Metalik has a crazier looking version of the move which involves him landing standing up.
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Old 11-01-2016, 01:57 AM   #330
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A countout won't help him win the title when he's not the champion.
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Old 11-01-2016, 02:31 AM   #331
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A countout won't help him win the title when he's not the champion.
Well, based on falling for the OBVIOUSLY fake injury on Sunday, they've added another dimension to his character beyond "video games:" he's also retarded.

Thus the ring psychology of the move makes sense for the wrestler performing it.

BOOM. REGAL'ED.

Y'all motherfuckers wanted character development.
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Old 11-01-2016, 02:35 AM   #332
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I think the video game references are funny tbh... I like that he just says everything with a straight face and tries to fit it in "naturally"... funny...
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Old 11-01-2016, 02:50 AM   #333
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Well, based on falling for the OBVIOUSLY fake injury on Sunday, they've added another dimension to his character beyond "video games:" he's also retarded.

Thus the ring psychology of the move makes sense for the wrestler performing it.

BOOM. REGAL'ED.

Y'all motherfuckers wanted character development.
Maybe he's just in a real video game and his joystick axis is inverted?
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What is the psychology behind that spot anyway?
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Love Owens and happy he's Uni Champ. In hindsight though, I feel it would be better if the roles were reversed, where the younger KO is helping Jericho retain the title every month. Owens eventually turns heel on the lovable "listing" Jericho and eventually takes the belt off of him with some build.
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Maybe. First time on the actual television looked really hokey. Playing it back it doesn't look so bad.
Aka Noid looking bad here

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So what do you think the main event of RAW was going to be before Mick Foley made this match earlier? The Battle Royal or Sheamus/Cesaro vs. Shining Stars?
On top of that, Mick Foley apparently forgot Braun Strowman existed when coming up with a list of battle royal participants with a fucking Survivor Series spot on the line.
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Love Owens and happy he's Uni Champ. In hindsight though, I feel it would be better if the roles were reversed, where the younger KO is helping Jericho retain the title every month. Owens eventually turns heel on the lovable "listing" Jericho and eventually takes the belt off of him with some build.
This would have been a good idea.
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Aka Noid looking bad here

Maybe you should take some time off. Clearly my return has caused your posts to get worse and worse. Rest up and come back for the Rumble.
It still looks really bad. Two girls delivering awkward verbiage with clear visual clues that they are trying to remember their lines. Charlotte also does look weird in it. Like she is on the verge of a mental break-down or something, but it could just be how they've made her up. Looks like she's about to cry throughout the entire promo in retrospect.

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Yeah the girls were bad, but mainly because they were trying to remember lines.
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Hmm. It's a real shame that Natalya won't be competing in that match in Toronto at Survivor Series. Maybe they give her a different match with some more spotlight? Nikki, Becky, Alexa, Naomi & Carmella...nope, that's all the girls. Unless they use Mickie or Asuka for the final Team SmackDown member.

Or...Natalya defects and joins Team RAW? Charlotte, Bayley, Nia Jax, Sasha & Nattie -- that takes it up to five.
Natty vs Eva Marie
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I love TJ Perkins' video game entrance. Fuck anyone who disagrees.
Only change I'd make is for the intro song part to be louder. Right now it sounds too low or soft to actually pump up the crowd for him.
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It still looks really bad. Two girls delivering awkward verbiage with clear visual clues that they are trying to remember their lines. Charlotte also does look weird in it. Like she is on the verge of a mental break-down or something, but it could just be how they've made her up. Looks like she's about to cry throughout the entire promo in retrospect.

And believe me, I do legitimately consider leaving this place when you are around and when people talk about how wonderful TNA is. I consider looking for a place where they talk sense and logic prevails as the best tool for discourse.
Don't leave man. You compete me.

I'm kidding, take your ball and go home.
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I'd feel too many good people would be exposed to you if I didn't stand up for what's right.
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Old 11-01-2016, 07:15 PM   #347
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Yeah the girls were bad, but mainly because they were trying to remember lines.
Bayley's delivery is also terrible. I still can't work out what was going on with Charlotte. Maybe Vince got up her for not delivering in the main event the night before or something? She looked really frazzled.
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It appeared to me that she did deliver in the main event the night before, and looked great at Hell in a Cell and at RAW, and that you guys are just a cuppa l'il haters...
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I'd feel too many good people would be exposed to you if I didn't stand up for what's right.
Well good to see you're not completely spineless.
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It appeared to me that she did deliver in the main event the night before, and looked great at Hell in a Cell and at RAW, and that you guys are just a cuppa l'il haters...
I have no comment on the match. Didn't see it and have heard conflicting reports. Just going off on what I have seen of them, which is both spectacular performances, and blunders.
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Usually they seem to make one botch that they recover from nicely...... surprisingly in the cell the only botch was when a table didn't break on the outside, and that is the fault of an inanimate object......
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I could go without seeing them on the mic if they have to remember scripted promos
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I could go without anyone remembering scripting promos.
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Well yeah. I don't think I've seen one good scripted word for word promo.
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• I know it was just two moves, but if I have that to go by, I imagine that Goldberg/Lesnar is not going to be all that great, but it's still early days.

• What on earth was Saxton wearing? Seriously, was his Halloween costume a baby? Regardless if it was or not, I've noticed that every week I'm finding him more and more annoying.

The only good reason for keeping him around is to hear the quips directed at him from Corey Graves.

• On the subject of being annoying, TJ Perkins had his rematch and lost in such a way that made him look stupid for the second night in a row. I know it won't happen but the feud should be over now as Perkins had his rematch and didn't get the title back.

We need a number one contender match now but I'm sure we'll have another two weeks of this, with it ending at Survivor Series. Maybe the night after that, we'll have a number one contender battle royal or something with the Cruiserweights, including the new additions which I'm sure will debut next week in Glasgow.

• Foley on the mic now and I feel that for me, one of the things that I like SmackDown more than Raw for is that the GM is hardly on the mic. We can go a few weeks without Daniel Bryan appearing in the ring with a mic and when he does, it's usually for something important such as a contract signing or new title unveiling and he doesn't even talk for that long.

With Foley, he's in the ring on a mic every week and he talks for a good 10-15 minutes and most of the time, there's no need for him to be out there. Hell, I'm sure there's been a few episodes of SmackDown that Bryan hasn't even appeared at, not even backstage, but every single week without fail, Foley appears in the ring for ages or backstage.

• The outcome of the battle royal was pretty obvious. The last two guys were the two guys that got televised entrances. Although I would have loved it, I really doubt Curtis Axel was going to win.

Team Raw however is shaping up to really suck, that is compared to what I think Team SmackDown will be.

• More Cruiserweights now and it's the same six people as before. This division feels like it's already dead. All we have is one feud going on at the moment and that's Kendrick/Perkins. The six of these guys just seem to keep facing each other week after week but no hate grows between them.

Also, Cedric Alexander really needs a theme change. It's so quiet that you can actually feel the crowd not giving a shit.

I think one way to make the division more interesting and help build up interest of the Cruiserweights is have them face other people and not just fellow Cruiserweights.

Have Tony Nese & Drew Gulak chase the Tag Team Championships or even Gran Metalik face Rusev for example, because it's at the point now where the Cruiserweights have faced each other so many times now that nobody really cares anymore.

• I see that Cesaro has dropped the James Bond entrance, which is good because it was always so awkward to watch as he rarely got it right. All we need now is his theme to change or even just drop the sirens.

I don't get what they're doing with Primo & Epico. They get a win over the hot tag team that is Enzo & Cass, then they go to having a match against three guys in their mid to late 40's over watches, to randomly appearing every now and then.

These guys should really be on SmackDown.

• Judging by the end of the main event, next week in Glasgow the main event will be Jericho/Owens vs Rollins/Reigns.

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• Overall, roll on SmackDown.
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One thing positive I will say about RAW: Corey Graves is phenomenal as a commentator. He's really switched on and doing his best to stay in character but basically do everything a commentator should do. I won't say he's the best ever or anything, and I know he bothers some people, but I find him to genuinely charming in the role.

JBL, on the other hand, annoys me these days. I was a huge proponent of his in 2006, but for some reason he feels well out of place now. When Daniel Bryan becomes a new dad, maybe he'd like some time off and JBL can become the new General Manager for SmackDown. That's a role he would excel in. Bring in Christian to do commentary with Mauro. Or even bring back Heel King, because that was something. David Otunga can do something else. Maybe he could use some polish in NXT, where he can develop that commentary voice more?

Byron Saxton...ugh. I liked him with Michael Cole at Beast in the East. I don't think he's actually as terrible at his core as people think, he's just another in the line of generic commentators. He's also in a thankless role. Have him turn heel and become a manager for people who need a mouthpiece or something. I don't see the point for a three man booth when Graves has clearly got things down.
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So Kevin Owens and Chris Jericho are actually scripted. Interesting.
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The problem with writers becomes evident as Mick defends Stephanie McMahon again. You can tell they don't know where they're going with it, but want to keep the thread open. Ugh.
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Trying to imagine a writer sitting there and writing the line "you know, I was going to dress up for Halloween as a stupid idiot, but they were all out of Chris Jericho costumes" and thinking it is the best ever. Like imagining him being "super happy" with that line.....
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