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Old 09-04-2023, 04:03 PM   #1
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It shouldn’t have been a firing it should be $100000 fine for anyone who does shit like this. They will all behave
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Old 09-04-2023, 04:29 PM   #2
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You want hypocrisy, look at “Wah! Punk doesn’t respect Regal” and then see how that locker room treated both Punk and Regal.
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Good. Fuck Perry. Because if he doesn't do this, Punk would still be employed. Again, Punk needed to be fired but Perry needs to be held accountable for his actions as well.
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What sucks for Perry is he had just received a major rub from Rob Van Dam in a match after RVD had just had a successful run with Impact Wrestling. That's all down the shitter now.
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Has anyone done a parody of the Self Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior DVD cover yet?
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From what I've read I do not exactly see what Jack Perry did wrong. If CM Punk just walked on by ignoring it would have anyone even cared in the office?

If the CEO felt his life was threatened then how can Jack be punished for keeping himself safe?
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From what I've read I do not exactly see what Jack Perry did wrong. If CM Punk just walked on by ignoring it would have anyone even cared in the office?

If the CEO felt his life was threatened then how can Jack be punished for keeping himself safe?
Ok, this is trolling.
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Old 09-06-2023, 02:18 AM   #8
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Ok, this is trolling.
I actually wasn't.

How can Tony Khan be involved in the same incident as Jack Perry where everyone is in the room is in fear of their life except for the one person CM Punk is explicitly targeting? (Jack Perry) Makes no fucking sense.

And

The Elite literally ignored him for a year and let CM Punk just hang himself with the long rope that Tony Khan gave him. And CM Punk did hang himself with whoever he could find and since he couldn't find The Elite he found someone else.
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Has anyone done a parody of the Self Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior DVD cover yet?
Still waiting for someone to do this.
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Ok, so this is more dirt sheet bs, but with the rumors that Evil CM Punk was looking to return to the Evil WWE for the Royal Rumble and a program with Kevin Owens:

If Punk was entertaining this idea in December, according to SRS (and I don’t believe this), then that would mean Punk wouldn’t have a long no-compete or even one at all attached to his contract. Just saying.
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If anybody doesn't think Phil is not fuming over the fact that Kevin Owens got Phil's dream match against Phil's dream opponent, you have never even heard of CM Punk
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If anybody doesn't think Phil is not fuming over the fact that Kevin Owens got Phil's dream match against Phil's dream opponent, you have never even heard of CM Punk
Eh, I think he probably watched it as a fan and had a good time.
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At the center of this is a difference in wrestling philosophy. The Elite resent this camp of guys like Jim Cornette, who think there is a craft to this. The Elite think it’s completely subjective and everything is awesome. If you don’t think Punk coming in and actually helping people get better ruffled them, then you have never even heard of The Elite.
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Conrad Thompson has come out and invoked someone “extremely close” to the CM Punk/AEW situation, and expressed that they think Dave Meltzer is lying. It seems CM Punk does, in fact, have a side to the story.
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Mark Henry has strongly implied that Punk wasn’t the problem.
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I mean, he did so by saying, “well, now ‘the problem’ is gone. Let’s see what happens.” You can kinda but 2 and 2 together lol
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I suspect a lot of these Punk stories will be minor or tiny non-incidents blown up to make headlines.

The Regal stuff does feel slightly revealing only in the sense that it feels like pretty much everything else he does, his respect for veterans is conditional.

It's like so many of his gestures of generosity and friendship, they're all extremely transactional, and feel as much about making someone feel they now owe him loyalty. Samoa Joe's cryptic Tweet the other day kinda alludes to that too.

Bret Hart, Harley Race, and Roddy Piper are the vets Punk often talks up the most in terms of guys he respects and admires. Wonder how much he'd talk them up if they hadn't told him they liked him.
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In fairness, business relationships by nature are transactional.
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While true some people treat most of, if not all of their interpersonal relationships as transactional. I halfway joked about how Ace Steel will end up on Punk's shitlist if he doesn't quit AEW in solidarity but there's numerous accounts of guys in WWE who were cool with Punk and friends with him and it was just radio silence from Punk after he quit. Like merely being employed in a company he was on bad terms with was enough for you to be on the shitlist.

Known "Punk guys" in AEW include FTR, House of Black, and Danhausen. Wonder if Punk is gonna actually keep talking to these dudes after everything that happened or if it'll reach the point where not quitting means they've "made their choice" when it never needed to be a choice.
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Guy just seems like someone who probably has an Excel spreadsheet keeping track of every single personal favor he's ever done for anyone, so he can throw it back at you the second you "cross" him.
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this guy makes a good point.



Someone argues that Punk's the one assaulting everyone. Yet, the Jacksons are the ones who busted into his dressing room.
This is what I've been saying the whole time. Punk and Perry do not avoid repercussions but TK allowed it to get to this point.

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Best sign I saw was a pic of TK saying "Dave, how am I doing?"

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Guy just seems like someone who probably has an Excel spreadsheet keeping track of every single personal favor he's ever done for anyone, so he can throw it back at you the second you "cross" him.
This is inherently BS. There's no way Punk knows how to do vlookups or pivot tables.
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Punk likes to have glory he can downplay, but I don’t know why people expect him to talk people who don’t like him. Or why his like of vets should be unconditional. There are very weird expectations put on him.
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I suspect a lot of these Punk stories will be minor or tiny non-incidents blown up to make headlines.
That's mostly been the case already. But it is pretty funny how this went from a simple front facelock to him being a raging lunatic who nearly murdered the 18 people just standing around before turning the fireaxe he was brandishing at Tony Khan. Even playing The Telephone Game, that's some pretty bad fucking storytelling. Outside of the sheer "newz" magnet any mention of Punk always is, you'd think that would have been the instant story if most of it were true and he'd have been fired immediately on the spot instead of having an investigation that the person who called for the investigation was supposedly a firsthand eyewitness.

Just smells like a setup. Sure, shame on him for falling for it, but at the same time the thing I said before still applies: if Punk did/said nothing, "he's a bitch", if Punk did/said *anything*, "he's a cancer". There was no winning here, and he's always been a guy who admittedly will die on his chosen hill.

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The Regal stuff does feel slightly revealing only in the sense that it feels like pretty much everything else he does, his respect for veterans is conditional.

It's like so many of his gestures of generosity and friendship, they're all extremely transactional, and feel as much about making someone feel they now owe him loyalty. Samoa Joe's cryptic Tweet the other day kinda alludes to that too.

Bret Hart, Harley Race, and Roddy Piper are the vets Punk often talks up the most in terms of guys he respects and admires. Wonder how much he'd talk them up if they hadn't told him they liked him.
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Punk likes to have glory he can downplay, but I don’t know why people expect him to talk people who don’t like him. Or why his like of vets should be unconditional. There are very weird expectations put on him.
Meanwhile, remember that whole story about Omega not really being a fan of Harley Race because he basically believed he was better than he was percieved at some wrestling camp and Harley didn't think so? Pretty sure that The Elite's opinion of the legend would be different if he didn't group Kenny with the beginners and decided to blow him instead.

A lot of relationships in the business are conditional. Goes with that old adage of "You can make friends or make money". And while this type of one-sided selfishness is repeatedly brought up to be some sort of knock on Punk, it somehow never gets brought up about a particular sub-par tag team that needs to keep reminding everyone how *they* started AEW and it's *their* revolution. They, or folks associated with them, don't need to listen to or take advice. All their ideas are good ideas. A match isn't a good match unless there's at least one dive in it. Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

They already didn't like the man from the outset because the RUMOR OF HIM sold a building they were proud of their (OG) ALL IN plaque being posted on outside. You'd think they were playing up being heels to lead to business with the smarm and passive-aggressive, snide comments, but they weren't going that deep. How dare he be a bigger star than us in our own company.
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Wrestling fans are genuinely idiotic. Some girl is receiving death threats for flipping off Page

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Wrestling fans are genuinely idiotic. Some girl is receiving death threats for flipping off Page

I'm glad Page said something because that's bullshit to harass a fan who wasn't doing anything wrong.

I didn't notice her until I saw a tweet about her mid show. I don't really pay much attention to anyone beyond the barriers but the few times I noticed her she was looking down at her phone despite having the best seat in the house. Frankly that's a worse look than flipping off a wrestler ever would be.

Flipping off wrasslers should always be encouraged no matter who it's directed at. Audience participation/engagement is generally a good thing.
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this guy makes a good point.



Someone argues that Punk's the one assaulting everyone. Yet, the Jacksons are the ones who busted into his dressing room.
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this guy makes a good point.


Someone argues that Punk's the one assaulting everyone. Yet, the Jacksons are the ones who busted into his dressing room.
Yeah the fact that two of the EVPs ducked a meeting with a disgruntled employee says a lot about them.

If they were just wrestlers, it would be different. They wouldn't be expected to mediate a conflict like this (even if they had a hand in causing it).

But they aren't just wrestlers. They are allegedly executives. Whether or not they're fluffed up titles, they carry weight in the realm of the company. And that Tony Khan [seemingly, anyway] didn't do more to get this resolved months ago is a bad look too.
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In a similar vein, Vince or HHH should cut this promo if they bring in Punk and want to introduce him in the most authentic way.
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There's a conspiracy online that suggests that TK and Punk are in cahoots to undermine the return of Shanky at WWE Superstar Spectacle.
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As I have said from time to time, Punk is not absolved from what he did. He deserves everything that he did. With that said, Tony Khan will sit here and act like he did everything he could, when in all reality, the only thing that he did was FINALLY make a public statement about firing him. Which he actually looked so nervous during it. It was like he Made it on the fly, but I can't imagine that being the only time they attempted to make that statement. It just felt so forced even though he was nervous.

If you needed any proof that the Elite do not need to be in power, Omega was sitting there cracking jokes while drinking a Pepsi and claiming it was like drinking lighter fluid and the Bucks came out after Collision dancing and parading around in the ring the same day Punk was fired.

Before someone comes out and tells me "Well Grayson Waller made fun of him on X"....guess what? Waller is a talent for the WWE, not EVP's like Omega and the Bucks are. What they did was immature and shows exactly why they SHOULD NOT be any position of power in that company.
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The lawyers told Tony he had to do it. That's the only reason he did it at all. They're trying to avoid a lawsuit.

If the Bucks did that, I can only imagine something like that can be brought into a court case depending on what type of lawsuit were to be filed.

Who is Grayson Waller?

(Yes, I know who he is)
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whole thing is a fuckin mess and most of it should have been cleaned up last year
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This. x10000.

Although if Tony was the one mediating it and there wasn't an actual middle person involved, I doubt anything would have been resolved.
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whole thing is a fuckin mess and most of it should have been cleaned up last year
100%!

Tony Khan should have told The Elite, CM Punk, Ace Steele, Punk's Dog...
you all sit down and sort this out now and move on and make money or ABSOLUTELY NONE of you come back into the fold.
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And as is usually the case with these things, half of the reporters are saying a Punk/Bucks mediation meeting was scheduled/cancelled, and half are saying the meeting was never scheduled at all. Following along those reporting lines it's not terribly difficult to figure out which reporters "Punk's side" and which reporters "The Elite's side" talk to.

Whether or not a meeting was planned or not barely matters because it all just goes back to he said/he said yet again and allows people to perceive and believe whoever they want to.
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