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Old 05-06-2004, 08:53 PM   #321
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I would just like to say 17 game winning streak.

No loss since March 23 which was to the Grizzlies by one point.
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I don't know what Rabidwolverine has against Trenton Hassell, all year. He is our best defensive player (minus KG), he always guards the best guys, and has held some of the best shooters in the league to low nights. Did you see Peja throwing up the air balls the other night? It wasn't coincidence that Hassell was guarding him. Nobody is expecting him to score more than 7 points a night, so nobody will be dissapointed if he doesn't surpass that for the rest of the playoffs, he is out there for his defense, its an added bonus when he can put up good numbers.

Theres another reason KG was MVP besides his talent, and don't worry, you will see the other reason Saturday night, and if Spree is ever that cold in the playoffs again, hell has frozen over. Its laughable that you count us out.
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I hate to say it (I hate them), but the Spurs are easilly the team to beat now. LA just can't cut it.
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Welcome to what I was saying a month or two ago.
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I didn't believe it until they went up 2-0 on the Lakers, now I think they're fo' real.
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What I realized about the Spurs is that they are not as streaky as the rest of the teams. They're steady, and that will take them far, unless they catch a team on a massive up-swing. Like, Wolves at the top of their game would destroy the Spurs at the top of their game. But the Wolves don't have the depth or the youth to be at the top of their game for this long, unfortunately.

They'll make some noise, but they won't bring it home. They need a ****ing draft pick.

And Ndudi Ebi does not count!
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Stern was there, the refs called the game as though it was played in Sacto. The T'Wolves never had home court.

Also, the Nuggets let Hassell score, and he did. He will hit open shots... but Spree better god damn well ****ing score. For what he's making, if he can't score he's useless.

One wise guy said the Wolves were in trouble as soon as NBA Commissioner David Stern arrived at Target Center wearing a purple tie (Kings color, get it?). The crew of Bob Delaney, Danny Crawford and Monty McCutchen was especially shaky in the third quarter, slapping six fouls on Minnesota in a span of 96 seconds.

By the end of that quarter, the Wolves managed to pull even at 73-73. But take away Sacramento's freebies and the home team could have been in front by six points or more.

Several of Minnesota's 18 turnovers came when ball handlers got bumped or jostled without whistles. Also, on a number of Garnett's misses, he was getting nudged down low, where refs rarely look.

The Kings know they have the correct gameplan: Hack-an-MVP. Refs don't call it. Never have. The Nuggets were stupid, trying to defend KG, rather than hack him. They fouled him so often because they thought they could stop him. The Kings know better. You can't stop KG, you can only beat him up.

But then, the Nuggets knew that, which is why they abused him IN THE OPEN, instead of in traffic under the basket.
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LOL, the Wolves can cry about it. The refs screwed the Nuggs over in the last series, so I've got no sympathy for them.
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I would just like to say ROFL

That is all.
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LOL, the Wolves can cry about it. The refs screwed the Nuggs over in the last series, so I've got no sympathy for them.
The nugs screwed the nugs. They couldn't have been more obvious in their fouls. The Kings are subtle, at least...
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I would just like to say ROFL

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Hey, man. The refs are screwing the Lakers too.
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Open your eyes Alphabean the wolves are not as great as you think

And they could not beat the Spurs in a series, at least not without Wally or Hudson
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The Wolves had streaks where they beat everyone.

They're not that great? They're in the West and are the #1 seed. They had one of the toughest final schedules, and they came into it trailing the Lakers and Kings for #1 seed.

Not as good as I think? I think they're beatable. I also know that Stern hates them because of the Joe Smith thing. They won't get any respect because of that. At least not in Stern's lifetime.

I've said like three times in this thread that the Spurs will probably take it. I pick them to win. But I also said the Wolves could. They have beaten the Spurs plenty of times, they could do it again. But it would be an uphill battle.
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If by "the refs screwed the Nuggs over" you mean that they had any chance whatsoever of winning that series, then ROFL
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LOL@Sacramento punking out

Oh well, took 1 out of 2 so it's alright. Nice to see Sammy has been watching Major League

Also to Bean and whoever else that thinks KG gets no calls, LOL
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I missed the game. I followed it on NBA.com though.

Let me guess... he took 14 foul shots so he was getting all the calls?

Like I said, the "superstars" get twice that many shots in a game. 14 in a game is considered "stellar" for KG but for an MVP it's only "okay."

Either way, whew, that was some crazy ass play down the stretch. Wolves up 35793207509324 then they're down 10 in a heartbeat, then I'm like, "**** this," and give up... then I go back and they're back in it, then they're back ahead and then win. Honestly, I pegged them for the L.

But then I can usually tell by how the Wolves are playing to see whether they can win or not. Game 1 I knew they were playing well enough to win, but all the no-calls were a huge factor.

Either way, whew. Let's hope the Wolves can take the next three.
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lol

They are lucky the Kings went away from their gameplan, else they wouldn't have went on a 13-0 run

Yeah he shot 12-14 free throws. I saw so many laughable fouls called on people guarding KG. One was called on Brad Miller for "tripping" (ref's words). Yet Miller was the one that ended on the ground It either was going to be a foul on Miller or Sacramento's ball so ya know it was going to be a foul

Anyway yeah, KG had a little bit of a better game than in game 1, shooting 14 free throws compared to 4 in game 1.
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They are lucky the Kings went away from their gameplan, else they wouldn't have went on a 13-0 run

Yeah he shot 12-14 free throws. I saw so many laughable fouls called on people guarding KG. One was called on Brad Miller for "tripping" (ref's words). Yet Miller was the one that ended on the ground It either was going to be a foul on Miller or Sacramento's ball so ya know it was going to be a foul

Anyway yeah, KG had a little bit of a better game than in game 1, shooting 14 free throws compared to 4 in game 1.

Well don't worry, the Kings are going back to BALCO arena, the refs only have to blow minimal calls to keep the games in the bag. Doubt the Wolves will win either of the two games, but maybe they will, just to keep the series interesting. The refs call according to what would make the ratings the best, everyone knows that. It's just RARE that the Timberwolves winning = ratings. The league hates the Wolves.

So if the Wolves winning brings up ratings, you'll see KG on the line 40 times a game.

Anyway, game 1 the Wolves took 25 3-pointers. That's like over twice as many as usual. Gameplan changes. Wolves lost a big lead and cut one down and won. Good enough for me I guess...
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The league hates the Wolves?

Wolves: 105-143
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And that's not counting tonight, but I think it was just a one shot difference tonight.
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Oh god.

That Laker/Spur game was horrible.

The refs werent calling alot of fouls on the Lakers. Then the Spurs would get called on stupid things.
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WTF is this?
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There is no doubt in my mind that the Wolves will split 1-1 in Sacramento. They have already won there twice this year in playoffl like settings, there is no way they lose both.
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Oh god.

That Laker/Spur game was horrible.

The refs werent calling alot of fouls on the Lakers. Then the Spurs would get called on stupid things.
lol

Somehow I knew that was coming. Oh well.

The Lakers did what they had to do. They picked their play up, both physically and mentally. They played TOGETHER for the first time in a long time from what I've seen. I said before the game they needed to get rough with Parker and Duncan, which they did. My point was the same as the pre-game commentators, not to get cheap and try to hurt them but to give them hard screens and when Parker drove in make him earn it, which is what they did. Yeah there were some missed calls I will admit it. But, like every game, there are missed calls on both sides so I try not to blame games on the refs. Game 1 and 2 were won by the Spurs, not the refs, that's how I see it, but I guess there will always be fans that say calling was horrible.


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Free throws made-shot by the wolves and their opponents in the playoffs.
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Watch the Wolves play. They don't try to foul the other team. Ya dig?

Other teams foul the **** out of the Wolves, because they know the Wolves don't have depth, and they know the refs don't always call fouls when you hack KG...

Last night, Bibby clubbed Sam in the face, grabbed his jersey and pulled on it and wasn't called. He was just mauling the poor alien, and Sam hardly went to the line.

I'm telling you, the Wolves play smart basketball if the refs called a clean game, the Wolves would hardly ever be called for fouls, and the Wolves would be going to the line a lot more often.
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LOL

Yeah I will give you one thing, Bibby did grab Sammy boy's jersey.

Dude, what are you on? KG gets a lot of calls.

If I had to name the top 5 guys that get calls, I would say Kobe, Duncan, TMac, KG, and probably Paul Pierce. I don't include Shaq because teams obviously hack him on purpose because of his shitty FT shooting. Then again, Duncan shoots pretty shitty too but teams dont hack him before he jams it on them to send him to the line.
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Dude, you don't understand. I WANT the Wolves to foul more. I mean... they get called for shit, and they're just standing there trying to play the ball... nuh uh, don't do that, damn it. You KNOW you're gonna get called, but it's like they're trying to appease the basketball Gods by not fouling hard.

That is, of course, except Mark Madsen who doesn't give a ****. He'll punch anybody. Maddog.

Anyway, KG rarely gets calls. Wolves have won all season without going to the line nearly enough. Most PGs drive the lane and get pounded, but get calls... why? Because they fall down. KG never falls down, he plays it cool, tries to hit shots with arms wrapped around him... and most of the time he does it, because he's MVP. The problem is, with as athletic as he is, I don't know if it would be better if he put some meat on his frame, to size up better against other post players.
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lol Yeah madsen is the man

I don't like the fouls like Olowakandi (sp?) did to Brad Miller, which was a blatan flagrant. I like the fouls like the Nugs did to the Wolves. Well not all of them, but one that pops into my head is Nene fouling KG. He fouled him hard yes, but he went for the ball. You make the guy earn his shit. Now, I dont condone hurting a guy by fouling him so hard, thats not what I'm saying. I don't like grabbing the guy and throwing him down (The Olowakandi foul, and a few more pop in my head), I like fouls where you do not let the guy get an easy two points. Make him earn it is my method.
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Nene didn't play the ball. He threw his body into KG and put an arm up.

Kandi, man, he has so much talent but he just doesn't care about basketball. If someone could make him care, and be competitive... he could be something special... but Maddog, he plays so hard, because he doesn't have the talent, so he makes up for it in tenacity. If you could put Maddog's tenacity in Kandi's body with Kandi's skill, that would be a future hall of famer, for sure.

I mean shit, Madsen should make it by himself.

Madsen + Hoiberg = awesome offseason pickups.
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Thist must have been a different foul then because ther one I am talking about he was definately going for the ball, considering he got a piece of the ball.
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I'm pretty sure it's the same one, because he did get a piece of the ball because he threw his entire MASSIVE body into KG, knocking him to the ground. Had KG gotten air, 1) Nene wouldn't have gotten any of the ball and 2) He'd have shattered KG's back like Anderson did to Wally.

KG swats breakaways. Less talented players try injuring stars. That's what the Nuggets did, and now the Wolves are less one player for the Kings.
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I am going to have to assume that Wally will make it back sometime in this series, because there is like two weeks in between games. Daunte Culpepper had the same injury and only missed two weeks, and you know in the playoffs they've got the best guys possible working on that back. I say he will for sure be back by game 6.

I am pissed though, the goddamn NBA like doesn't want us to watch our home teams in the playoffs or something. The game starts here at what, 10:30 or something? Jesus, money is everything in this damned business.
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I thought Wally stated something to the effect that Anderson's foul wasn't what injured him?

Am I missing something here?
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Yes, I think you are missing something. Was that comment based around what I said or what bean said, because if it was me I don't know what it means. But anyway, considering the fact that Wally was playing fine until the foul, and then was in pain afterwards, I don't know how else he would have hurt his back?
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Yea the Wolves really dont get a lot of calls..but I think they will now since they actaully got out of the 1st round

Thats just the way shit works in the NBA...

And Pierce "gets" a lot of calls because he gets fouled a lot...Id say he is right behind Shaq for getting fouled the most times (legit fouls and no BS)
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haha No that's not what I meant. I know that the play was what caused him to be hurt. There's no doubting that. I just thought that Wally said something like he didn't blame Anderson at all for what happened? I can't remember the exact quote but it seems like he said it was actually him misjudging the dunk? I dunno my mind is going blank, CNM help me out here.

I don't really count Shaq as getting a lot of calls because he gets fouled on purpose because of his free throw (or lack thereof) shooting.
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Oh ok. Actually I think I remember that, he was like "its the playoffs you can't blame someone for that" or something. I am sure that Anderson caused it for the most part, but it wasn't supposed to be bad like it was.
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Yeah thats what I was saying, dont know if I did a good job of it tho haha.

HOLY SHIT @ the Wolves - Kings game

I thought it was over and now it's going to OT.

In the Wolves defense, the Kings have had a few calls, but for the most part those calls were given before the comeback.

HOLY SHIT this is a good game
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