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Old 01-02-2009, 11:35 PM   #321
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Old 01-03-2009, 07:52 PM   #322
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I get that, but if you're going to give up the future for the present, the present is also today.
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No I don't get what you are saying. They put everything into last season thinking it was their best shot, without thinking about this season. They probably thought half a season of Tex (and having their aging stars a year younger) was more likely to lead to a World Series than two seasons of Kotchman (with their aging stars a year older)
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They were probably pretty confident that they could re-sign Tex. And also felt that a team like the Yankees wouldn't blow everyone else out of the water.
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No I don't get what you are saying. They put everything into last season thinking it was their best shot, without thinking about this season. They probably thought half a season of Tex (and having their aging stars a year younger) was more likely to lead to a World Series than two seasons of Kotchman (with their aging stars a year older)
OK, I guess my thoughts on it weren't complete, I appologize. The Angels are abig market team and can afford to spend. Why they would give up a wanted prospect and then let Tex go doesn't make sense. They can afford to pay, even overpay for Tex. They are not say, Toronto taking a run at things and then having to fall back.
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Andruw Jones restructures his deal so he can be traded or released from the Dodgers.

Derek Lowe wants $16 mil. per season. Other than the Mets, the Red Sox, Phillies, Braves, and a mystery team are also involved in talks.
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Vasquez to the Braves.

He gets his K's and eats up a lot of innings. He should be better than he is, not sure why he's never made it as an 'elite' pitcher. Still not a bad signing.

I was reading that the Giants are front runners for Manny now.Don't know if this is Boras trying to pressure the Dodgers or not.
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OK, I guess my thoughts on it weren't complete, I appologize. The Angels are abig market team and can afford to spend. Why they would give up a wanted prospect and then let Tex go doesn't make sense. They can afford to pay, even overpay for Tex. They are not say, Toronto taking a run at things and then having to fall back.
For what I understand they offered him a pretty huge deal but I also read in SI that he said hes an "east coast guy" so that might have been up there with what he wanted from his contract (big money with a contender on the east coast) and the Angels can really only offer 2 of those 3 things.
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Well CC was a west coast guy, but he ended up on the East coast. Stories about east coast - west coast are just that stories. Guys play for money and/or championships, then they play for 'the hometown'.
I wouldn't doubt that SI story was all about Baltimore or Washington landing him. What I hear was both those teams were going to offer him up a ton of dough but he didn't sign with either of them. Anyway, doesn't matter now. He's a Yankee and he'll pull a quad in spring training and suffer all season, people will they critisize him and he'll demand a trade by this time next year.
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Pat Burrell signs with the Rays. 2-years, $16 mil.

Milton Bradley signs with the Cubs. 3-years, $30 mil.

Angels manager Mike Scioscia signs an extension going into 2012.
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Really surprised Burrell signed for $16 mil. He turned down offers between $10-12 million a year in the past from the Phils, and is now going to make much less. Bad move on his/his agent's part.

Good for Scioscia, he's one of the best around.
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Wow, Burrell as a steal to the Rays, great move by them.

With Price coming into the rotation, they are reloading. Good for them.
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Really surprised Burrell signed for $16 mil. He turned down offers between $10-12 million a year in the past from the Phils, and is now going to make much less. Bad move on his/his agent's part.

Good for Scioscia, he's one of the best around.
Phillies didn't want him back.
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Well of course not, they already signed Ibanez a month ago. But last spring they tried to sign him to an extension, but he turned them down. Now he will make significantly less.
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And Arizona is so much better? What with all that sand that they have and shit?
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I don't live on the fucking beach, chief.
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Burrell loves Philadelphia. So many Urban legends about him at bars and various other establishments in the City.
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Well of course not, they already signed Ibanez a month ago. But last spring they tried to sign him to an extension, but he turned them down. Now he will make significantly less.
I don't remember this.
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Phillies | Burrell turned down deal
Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:08:18 -0700

The Philadelphia Inquirer's Paul Hagen reports Philadelphia Phillies OF Pat Burrell turned down a two-year, $22 million offer to stay with the team.
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DODGERS RE-SIGN MANNY AND LOWE! WOO!!

Oh wait no we didn't because we are not doing jack shit this offseason and Coletti can suck my nuts. Boras, too.
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Yankees P Sergio Mitre suspened 50 games for steroids.

N.Y. Times is reporting Andy Pettitte turned down the Yankees' 1-year, $10 mil. offer.

I wonder if they're gonna give Hughes one last chance for a starter spot. Or go grab someone cheap.
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Old 01-06-2009, 10:43 AM   #349
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I hope they are in the minority...but a bunch of my Yanks' fan friends are all pissed off at Andy, accusing him of not having loyalty and being all about the money

The irony of this is astounding.
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Old 01-06-2009, 01:49 PM   #350
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You have stupid friends, Vito. Good for Pettitte though. The Yanks are willing to overpay everybody else but then want to cut his salary by 40%. I'd be mad too.
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Yeah they are pretty stupid when it comes to baseball...everytime a free agent turns down the Yankees (didn't happen much this offseason so far) they act shocked as though every single player in the Major Leagues WANTS to play there no matter what. Get the fuck out.

As for Andy, wouldn't be surprised to see the Dodgers make a run for him. The need is obviously there, plus Torre is at the helm. Could be a good fit...just depends if he's willing to go somewhere other than NY or Houston.
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Pettitte in Dodger blue. Be good.
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Old 01-06-2009, 04:03 PM   #353
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Indians reportedly agree to a contract with...Carl Pavano!

Yankees sign journeyman pitcher Jason Johnson.

A's and Jason Giambi appear destined for a reunion
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Gotta love how people are calling Pat Burrell a steal for the Rays at $8 million a year but nobody wants Adam Dunn on their team.
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yeah what's up with Dunn. Is it his attitude? I thought I heard or read something about him saying he doesn't really care about baseball?? - something like that? I dunno, fill me in.
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10 million was more than fair for Pettitte. I mean they've been overpaying him the last two years as one of the highest paid pitchers when he clearly wasn't. After the season he had last year I don't really think he can expect much more than 10 million from any team in baseball. Maybe another million or two but thats it.
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Still can't believe the Yankees got Tex. As for the other pick ups, I really don't think Burnett will hold up and I'm curious to see how C.C. does with the pressure of playing in NY (his track record isn't very good) but with the addition of Tex their offense is downright ridiculous, especially if Cano returns to form.

Red Sox really aren't looking too hot right now either, still haven't picked up a catcher - curious to see how that turns out. Also lost Coco Crisp so they are lacking outfield depth right now (which is a huge issue since JD Drew seems to also be pulling muscles or having spasms or some shit)
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From all accounts, Dunn is one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. But apparently his good ole country boy attitude gets in the way of his win at all costs attitude. Like he's fine just where he is and if he doesn't win a World Series he'll be perfectly fine in life.

I dunno, if a guy who's not obsessed with baseball can hit 40 homers and drive in 100 runs, imagine what he could do with a manager who could motivate him.
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