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Old 12-15-2009, 04:33 PM   #3561
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:39 PM   #3562
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Pretty much. That curse has been ruining people's shit since 2001.
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:48 PM   #3563
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They should start putting coaches on the Cover.
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:50 PM   #3564
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Pretty much. That curse has been ruining people's shit since 2001.
2000, really. Levens went down after he graced it, too. Only one who didn't get hurt was Lewis in 2005.

And Brett too I guess, though his reputation took quite a hit.
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:52 PM   #3565
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Lewis's career diped a lot
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:55 PM   #3566
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Yeah, but he didn't get hurt and he has managed to bounce back quite a bit.
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Old 12-15-2009, 05:02 PM   #3567
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They should start putting coaches on the Cover.
They can start with Jack Del Rio.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:40 PM   #3568
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See if you can get the 5-8 Seattle Seahawks into the playoffs

Supposedly they have not been eliminated yet, but Ive tried every combination possible and can't get them in there.
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:03 PM   #3569
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Shouldn't be possible since Seattle can't win the division nor the Wild Card even if Giants and Cowboys both lose their last 3 games and Seattle wins their 3 games. It also assumes San Fran looses at least 1 game.
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See if you can get the 5-8 Seattle Seahawks into the playoffs

Supposedly they have not been eliminated yet, but Ive tried every combination possible and can't get them in there.
If the Giants, Cowboys and Seahawks all finished 8-8 (and all the other wild card chasing teams finish with less than that), Giants would own the tie breaker over the Cowboys based on head to head, and then the Seahawks would own the tie breaker over the Giants based on Conference wins, giving them the last wild card spot.

I think that's how it would go. There's probably some other variations that could work too but that's one I figured out.
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See if you can get the 5-8 Seattle Seahawks into the playoffs

Supposedly they have not been eliminated yet, but Ive tried every combination possible and can't get them in there.
The ONLY thing it might be is that the Cardinals and Seahawks could be tied for the division in record, conference wins, common opponents, etc. and it would have to go down to statistics to determine the winner.....and this thing says Cardinals due to alphabetical order.
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:21 PM   #3572
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If the Giants, Cowboys and Seahawks all finished 8-8 (and all the other wild card chasing teams finish with less than that), Giants would own the tie breaker over the Cowboys based on head to head, and then the Seahawks would own the tie breaker over the Giants based on Conference wins, giving them the last wild card spot.

I think that's how it would go. There's probably some other variations that could work too but that's one I figured out.
Realistically the lowest I think the Giants finish is 9-7. I can see them winning against the Skins and Panthers, possibly the Vikings if they sit their players.
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:45 PM   #3573
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If the Giants, Cowboys and Seahawks all finished 8-8 (and all the other wild card chasing teams finish with less than that), Giants would own the tie breaker over the Cowboys based on head to head, and then the Seahawks would own the tie breaker over the Giants based on Conference wins, giving them the last wild card spot.

I think that's how it would go. There's probably some other variations that could work too but that's one I figured out.
I don't think it's possible. There's no way for Green Bay to finish worse than 9-7, so that gives them the 5th spot (1st Wildcard). The worst the Giants can finish is 7-9, so that means Seattle can finish better than them but not the Cowboys. Even if the Cowboys finished 8-8 and "tied" with Seattle, the Cowboys beat Seattle so that would give them the tiebreaker and the 6th seed (2nd Wildcard) .

I did manage to get the Carolina Panthers into the playoffs though.
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The ONLY thing it might be is that the Cardinals and Seahawks could be tied for the division in record, conference wins, common opponents, etc. and it would have to go down to statistics to determine the winner.....and this thing says Cardinals due to alphabetical order.
But doesn't head to head count? Arizona beat Seattle twice this year, so even if they did tie at 8-8, Arizona would have the tie breaker.
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:53 PM   #3575
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Here's a scenario where Carolina gets in and both the Giants and Cowboys are out.


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Old 12-15-2009, 11:58 PM   #3576
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Played around with the AFC side of things for a bit. So much more complicated than the NFC picture.
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:01 AM   #3577
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The AFC is such a mess this year.
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:02 AM   #3578
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I think it's funny that the conferences have basically reversed this year.
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I don't think it's possible. There's no way for Green Bay to finish worse than 9-7, so that gives them the 5th spot (1st Wildcard). The worst the Giants can finish is 7-9, so that means Seattle can finish better than them but not the Cowboys. Even if the Cowboys finished 8-8 and "tied" with Seattle, the Cowboys beat Seattle so that would give them the tiebreaker and the 6th seed (2nd Wildcard) .

I did manage to get the Carolina Panthers into the playoffs though.
From this site: http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

Under three or more clubs to break a tie for the wild card team, it says: 'Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2.'

Therefore if my scenario came out (Giants, Cowboys, Seahawks on 8-8) that would mean Giants eliminate Cowboys instantly due to head to head record, then Seahawks beat Giants on best record in the NFC.

So quite ironically, going into the last game of the season, if the Giants were 7-8, the Seahawks would need the Giants to get to 8-8 too for them to eliminate Dallas.

Think I've got that right. Btw I'm not even considering 5th spot in any of this obviously.
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Hmm the machine doesn't recognise my theory as possible but I dunno. I don't see what's wrong with it Unless there's a tie breaker which I've missed.
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:23 AM   #3581
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LOL I did the exact same Team Sheep. I looked up all of the tiebreaker procedures and put in my MASTER PLAN which should have theoretically put Seattle in and it still had the Giants. I blame the site now
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Ah ok my bad, Seahawks wouldn't win a tie breaker against the Giants on best NFC record, it would go down to wins against common teams which I can't be assed to get into now. I'll just trust the machine
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From this site: http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

Under three or more clubs to break a tie for the wild card team, it says: 'Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2.'

Therefore if my scenario came out (Giants, Cowboys, Seahawks on 8-8) that would mean Giants eliminate Cowboys instantly due to head to head record, then Seahawks beat Giants on best record in the NFC.

So quite ironically, going into the last game of the season, if the Giants were 7-8, the Seahawks would need the Giants to get to 8-8 too for them to eliminate Dallas.

Think I've got that right. Btw I'm not even considering 5th spot in any of this obviously.
Yea, the 5th Spot would have to go to Green Bay, simply because they cannot finish lower than 9-7. So in this scenario, that would leave the 6th spot between the Giants, Dallas, and Seattle.

I think before you went to the Three way tiebreaker, you would start just between the Giants and Dallas, because they are in the same division. The Giants have the tie breaker and Dallas is out. Then it would come down to Seattle and New York Giants. If they were both 8-8, with the remaining schedule, then they would both have 6 wins in the NFC.

Seattle would have beaten in the NFC: St Louis, Detroit, St Louis (again), San Francisco, Tampa, Green Bay

New York would have beaten in the NFC: Washington, Dallas, Tampa, Atlanta, Dallas, and either Washington, Carolina, or Minnesota (can only win one of those to get them to 8-8)

So then it would go to common opponents, minimum of four:

Common opponents of Giants and Seattle are: Dallas, Tampa, Arizona, Minnesota

The Giants record would be either 2-2 or 3-1, depending on if they beat Minnesota to get to 8-8. If both games against Dallas are counted, they would be 3-2 or 4-1.

Seattle's record would be 1-3 or 1-4 if both games against Arizona are counted

So the worst the Giants could do would be 2-2 and the best the Seahawks could do would be 1-3. Thus, the Giants would own the tiebreaker.
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Pretty sure as long as Denver wins 2 of their last 3 games they're in. Thank good 2 of those 3 or against Kansas City and Oakland
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Did a scenario where the Jets go 10-6 and get the #2 seed
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Did a scenario where the Jets go 10-6 and get the #2 seed
Did the same for Denver. Pretty much involved SD losing out and Denver winning out
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Don't even want to bring up the AFC playoff scenario. I did one where seeds 3-6 all finished 9-7.
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And Brett too I guess, though his reputation took quite a hit.
Brett's shoulder got hurt last year when he fell off at the end.
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I got the Texans into the playoffs...but involved a lot of things happening. Definitely shoulda capitalized on the Steelers' and Titans' poor seasons

Not a Texans fan or anything, but it'll be cool when they make the playoffs for the first time.
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I don't like that scenario. Put the Pats up against the Chargers.
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What I want to happen

For that to happen, Denver would need to win out and need the Chargers (CIN, @TEN, WAS) to lose 2/3 and the Bengals (@SD, KC, @NYJ) to lose 1/3. There's an incredibly small chance, but it's possible

And what I figure will actually happen
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Old 12-16-2009, 02:40 PM   #3594
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Can't see the Bengals beating the Chargers in SD this week. Bengals are always terrible on the west coast (see Oakland game) and this time they're actually playing someone good.
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But I want them to
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yeah well I wanted the Broncos to beat the Ravens and Steelers and that didn't happen either

call it even
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Henry has "life-threatening" injuries after "domestic situation"
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on December 16, 2009 6:25 PM ET
New information is rapidly coming out about Bengals wide receiver Chris Henry's serious car accident.

The Charlotte Observer reports that Henry is facing "life-threatening" injuries after falling out the back of a pickup truck in Charlotte Wednesday.

Police say Henry was involved in a "domestic situation" with his fiance. As Henry's fiance drove away from the home where the situation occurred, Henry jumped into the bed of the truck.

He fell out the back of the truck at some point after that and was found half a mile away.

We'll continue to update Henry's story as we learn more about his condition.
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lol. Just made a scenario where Buffalo wins the AFC East and San Francisco goes into Dallas in round one. Craziness...

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I think he's (Henry) dead.

Maybe not.
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Life support according to PFT. The talk of him being dead originated from a fake Twitter account of some guy pretending to be a NFL reporter
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