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Old 11-20-2012, 07:28 AM   #3601
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Thursday's gonna be great. Best thanksgiving line up in years.

Well last year was the first good one in years but this year is better.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:57 AM   #3602
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Guys, we've been down this road before with Krimzon. He isn't going to hear the arguments.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:07 AM   #3603
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Tebow didn't do that. The Broncos defense bailed his ass out and enabled him to get the ball late and he managed to put together timely drives and not fuck things up completely like he did for the first 58 minutes.
The exact same defense was 1-4 before they made the change to play Tebow.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:26 AM   #3604
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I value a QB who can help and at times carry his team to wins. Tebow was fucking abysmal and managed to get some wins late to win his division with an 8-8 record. Something Manning did a shitload of times. And I'm pretty sure he was regularly winning 12+ games in doing so. With a shitty defense for most of that time. Putting up record breaking numbers. While Tebow was struggling to put up over 100 yards and hit 50% of his passes. Are you really trying to act like Tebow with is more of a winner and has proven more than Peyton fucking Manning? Really?
Peyton Manning won his only superbowl when the colts defense caught fire and channeled the 85 Chicago Bears. During that game, he was as pedestrian as ever, completing only one pass of consequence, the bomb to Reggie Wayne, while he completed over 10 passes to Joseph Addai, who also was part of a running back tandem that touched the ball 40 fucking times. Add the fact that Bob Sanders played out of his mind during that playoff run. and Freeny & Co lost his mind in the Superbowl...Hey I can't take the fact that he won one title from him. But, you can't deny that his SB win over the Bears featured one of the safest game plans of his career as well. Oddly enough, Tebows PLAYOFF winning percentage is better at .500 than Manning's, and they both have the same amount of game winning PLAYOFF Drives under their belt. I don't think Tim Tebow is the best Quarterback ever, but I do think that Peyton Manning is a sham of a quarterback. He's literally the opposite of Tebow, he'll throw the ball around amassing statistics and wowing the masses for 58 minutes...but when the chips are down you can count on a game clinching Interception IN THE PLAYOFFS.

Again, I'm not fooled by the fools gold of the regular season. I could care less about how he routinely goes 10-0 13-0 when his lasting memories are of him dejected, watching some cornerback shuffle into the endzone after picking him off to end his season. Ryan Clark, Ty Law (a million times) that guy from Nawlins...

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The guy can't even push Mark Sanchez out of a job for fuck's sake!
Tebow earned a shot at being quarterback for the broncos by resurrecting what was sure to be a sorry assed season last year and throwing for 300 plus yards and a game winning touchdown against the Steelers. Honestly though, this is more of an indictment against Manning than a 'vote of confidence' for Tebow. Peyton Manning's numerous clutch failures in college and the NFL should have been evidence that this is NOT the guy to waste two years around. hell the guy can't even properly groom a replacement. Is Curtis Painter doing anything right now? How do you think Peyton will do grooming his replacement in Denver? I don't see another Andrew Luck coming to bail a franchise out of the black hole that is Manning.

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Oh and Tebow didn't go 7-2 last year in the regular season. He went 6-4.
This is true. I couldn't remember that reccord at the moment of the post. Thanks for the factual update.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:29 AM   #3605
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Just wanted to add this...do you know who his quarterback was???
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:41 AM   #3606
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Guys, we've been down this road before with Krimzon. He isn't going to hear the arguments.
I mean I have heard the arguments from a multitude of places. Tell me I'm wrong. The difference of opinion lies solely on what you value in a Quarterback. For my money I would take Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and*can't believe I'm admitting this* Ben Roethlisberger, before I even consider thinking taking Peyton Manning. Even then I'm still passing on Manning because his record shows that he cannot win high pressure, high stake games.

Now if I need to build a team that only plays from August to The middle of December....Peyton is first on my list.

For the record, Peyton Manning isn't the only one on this shit list...He has some celebrated company. Michael Vick, Brett Favre, Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers all draw my ire in these type of conversations.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:43 AM   #3607
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:44 AM   #3608
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I mean I have heard the arguments from a multitude of places. Tell me I'm wrong. The difference of opinion lies solely on what you value in a Quarterback. For my money I would take Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and*can't believe I'm admitting this* Ben Roethlisberger, before I even consider thinking taking Peyton Manning. Even then I'm still passing on Manning because his record shows that he cannot win high pressure, high stake games.

Now if I need to build a team that only plays from August to The middle of December....Peyton is first on my list.

For the record, Peyton Manning isn't the only one on this shit list...He has some celebrated company. Michael Vick, Brett Favre, Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers all draw my ire in these type of conversations.
YOU'RE FUCKING RETARDED
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:50 AM   #3609
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:55 AM   #3610
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YOU'RE FUCKING RETARDED
really? You're a Colts fan. Tell me how many times Peyton Manning broke your heart and left you butthurt after playoff losses to the Ravens, Patriots, JETS, etc.

This feels like I'm telling a little kid that Santa isn't real.

#1 WWE Fan was at least thoughtful enough to bring statistics to the table. I love arguing and debating stats and facts. What do you have RP?
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This time i'm serious. Look at this..

You are retarded.
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really? You're a Colts fan. Tell me how many times Peyton Manning broke your heart and left you butthurt after playoff losses to the Ravens, Patriots, JETS, etc.

This feels like I'm telling a little kid that Santa isn't real.
Ravens? lulz
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:02 AM   #3614
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:03 AM   #3615
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You are retarded.
yeah, great addition to the thread.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:04 AM   #3616
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Krimson selling the ABrockalypse short.
Gonna be honest here, have no idea what this means.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:06 AM   #3617
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yeah, great addition to the thread.
It's autism bro.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:10 AM   #3618
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It's autism bro.
Is that your excuse for Peyton? Eli looks like he has Downs Syndrome so I could see Peyton being Autistic.

Maybe that's why he plays so hot early in the season and so shitty later on. he has it backwards...
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:13 AM   #3619
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Gonna be honest here, have no idea what this means.
Denver's rookie backup is Brock Osweiler. I think Skippord or FS called him the ABrockalypse earlier in this thread so I'm just rolling with it.
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Peyton Manning won his only superbowl when the colts defense caught fire and channeled the 85 Chicago Bears. During that game, he was as pedestrian as ever, completing only one pass of consequence, the bomb to Reggie Wayne, while he completed over 10 passes to Joseph Addai, who also was part of a running back tandem that touched the ball 40 fucking times. Add the fact that Bob Sanders played out of his mind during that playoff run. and Freeny & Co lost his mind in the Superbowl...Hey I can't take the fact that he won one title from him. But, you can't deny that his SB win over the Bears featured one of the safest game plans of his career as well. Oddly enough, Tebows PLAYOFF winning percentage is better at .500 than Manning's, and they both have the same amount of game winning PLAYOFF Drives under their belt. I don't think Tim Tebow is the best Quarterback ever, but I do think that Peyton Manning is a sham of a quarterback. He's literally the opposite of Tebow, he'll throw the ball around amassing statistics and wowing the masses for 58 minutes...but when the chips are down you can count on a game clinching Interception IN THE PLAYOFFS.
... You're praising a guy's winning percentage (.500) who has TWO playoff games, one of which he was bent over and raped in to a guy who has NINETEEN playoff games under his belt and saying "LOOK WHO HAS THE BETTER PLAYOFF WINNING PERCENTAGE!" lol. Come on.

And it's a shame Manning only has one game winning playoff drive under his belt, the same as Tebow. That one game winning drive happened to be one of the biggest comebacks in playoff history. And he kinda crushes Tebow in the "blowing out teams in the playoffs and eliminating any need to have to come back" department (Sorry Broncos fans).

Oh and let's also ignore the fact that Tebow sucked ass against Buffalo and Kansas City in the final two weeks of the season last year to back his team to an 8-8 record and allow other teams to secure their playoff spot. CLUTCH.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:59 PM   #3624
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:30 PM   #3625
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I was going to come in here to tell Owenbrown that Chad Henne, yes that Henne, is going to beat the Titans this weekend, but then I remembered he quit TPWW.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:06 PM   #3626
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:18 PM   #3627
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Ed Reed's suspension was lifted and reduced to a $50,000 fine. The NFL has no balls.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:25 PM   #3628
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CHARLIE BATCH is starting this Sunday for the Steelers.

CHARLIE... BATCH!
Should get the MVP....the MVP of the XFL Million Dollar Game...

TOMMY "GUNN" MADDOX!
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:21 PM   #3629
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:03 PM   #3630
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Blaine and Laurent both on IR. Resigned Palmer. Why am I not shocked?
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:25 PM   #3631
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Well Ermax, you have a draft to look forward to at least.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:32 PM   #3632
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Ermax can always look forward to the other twelve teams he cheers for.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:14 PM   #3633
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Wooooooo! The Jaguars signed a player I've heard of! Carson's little bro! Wooooo!
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:31 PM   #3634
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Well Ermax, you have a draft to look forward to at least.
If Gene Smith is still GM, he'd likely waste it on a long snapper or fullback.

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In football, there are only 2 other teams, buddy. They both suck right now too.

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Old 11-21-2012, 04:23 PM   #3635
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WOO! TENNESSEE SHOULD BEAT JACKSONVILLE IN A BLOWOUT THIS WEEK!!!
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:34 PM   #3636
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Same ole owenbrown..
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:05 PM   #3637
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ABrockalypse is an awesome name. In 3-4 years we'll see what the 7 foot Yeti QB can do.
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:15 PM   #3638
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Same ole owenbrown..
Old owenbrown would have been more like this..

"ugh. jacksonville probably gonna lose to tennessee this week. fucking wish jacksonville would step their game up. tennessee probably shouldn't be winning..."
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:19 PM   #3639
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New owenbrown wishes pain and suffering for everyone else and their teams in true heel fashion and will accept Tennessee wins by hook or by crook. ESPECIALLY by crook. #heel
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:07 PM   #3640
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Same ole owenbrown..
says the guy who apparently thinks his team will go 11-5 and make the playoffs
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