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Old 11-17-2012, 12:29 AM   #37521
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:32 AM   #37522
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:39 AM   #37523
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:05 AM   #37524
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:22 AM   #37525
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I kind of like Rene Dupree's chest tattoo
I think we agreed a couple hundred pages ago that this tatoo was an illustration of an... ARMOIRE!!!

Also, it appears that the flames are burning him alive. He kinda looks like Paul Orndorf's arm... just all over.
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:41 AM   #37526
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I've heard rumours that Tensai will be included in the Survivor Series Elimination Match, but do hope that they give the spot to Johnny Curtis if Cody Rhodes cannot compete. That would be tremendous.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:02 AM   #37527
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If not Johnny Curtis, debut someone new, anyway.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:08 AM   #37528
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WWE.com has an article up and it oddly suggests that Michael McGillicutty could be a member of Team Ziggler. Weird.

David Otunga and Matt Striker would actually make sense, although I don't think Ziggler would want Striker on his team, due to Striker's win-loss record not being that great. Striker becoming a manager for heels that need that little extra hand could be interesting. Striker accompanying Team Ziggler for their match after finding them a suitable replacement could also be an interesting development.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:11 AM   #37529
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Perhaps Tensai comes out to fill the spot, but Fandango comes out and asks "Mind if I cut in?", and sufficiently creeps Tensai out enough to take said spot.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:15 AM   #37530
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lol. "Mind if I... cut in?"

Genius.
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Old 11-17-2012, 04:51 AM   #37531
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Bad News Brown predicted the future...
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:34 AM   #37532
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That promo really wasn't bad, gonna need to check out some more Bad News Brown
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:35 AM   #37533
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lol. "Mind if I... cut in?"

Genius.
If Curtis says that, my inner mark would cause me to convulse and pass out.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:44 PM   #37534
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:51 PM   #37535
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According to the dirt sheets, Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose are expected to be called up to RAW/Smackdown as early as next month and as late as late January.

Didn't mention if they are arriving at the same time although Rollins would have to drop the NXT title within the next 2 set of tapings in order to arrive by January.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:32 PM   #37536
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Seth Rollins reminds me of CM Punk when he first arrived in the WWE.

In that people go crazy for him, but I do not like him at all. Hopefully, like Punk, Rollins will be able to win me over.

As for Dean Ambrose, he had best have a Dean gimmick, or he needs to change his name. No excuses here.
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Old 11-17-2012, 04:35 PM   #37537
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lol Billy Kidman's fat face in the new nWo doc piece
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Old 11-17-2012, 04:36 PM   #37538
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and the new roundtable is up on the torrent sites for those of you that watch them, it's about RAW. It's like the 30th time I've said it but these are still the best thing WWE puts out.
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:07 PM   #37539
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upload it here CSL
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:59 PM   #37540
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:00 PM   #37541
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:46 PM   #37542
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If the WWE let Justin Long dance on RAW, it'd sadly probably be the best thing of the week. They should do it.
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:47 PM   #37543
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According to the dirt sheets, Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose are expected to be called up to RAW/Smackdown as early as next month and as late as late January.

Didn't mention if they are arriving at the same time although Rollins would have to drop the NXT title within the next 2 set of tapings in order to arrive by January.
Dean Ambrose really wouldn't be the worst choice to replace Cody Rhodes at Survivor Series. Let him debut there and then work out what to do with him.
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:59 PM   #37544
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:06 PM   #37545
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David Otunga will one day be a pretty great asset to the WWE. The WWE should have him working with William Regal backstage...like, all the time.
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:15 PM   #37546
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I cannot stand Otunga.... he's jacked to shit, but his neck is smaller than mine.... do some bridgework you fucker.....
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:20 PM   #37547
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The Wrestling Observer reports that many people within WWE are pushing for the company to call up some women from NXT to the main roster due to the lack of depth in the division. With the company centering the division on Eve, Kaitlyn and Layla every week, the feeling is that there are no new challengers on either side of the heel/face fence and it is believed that a few developmental wrestlers are ready to be promoted in order to fix the problem. While the roster is being built up, WWE plans to have AJ Lee feud with Eve Torres.
Do they even have enough women wrestlers on NXT to make up for all the ones they lost?

Can only think of 2-3 but that would only fill up half or a third of all the Divas they lost this year.
There's no need to call up the women from NXT. The WWE wouldn't be in the situation they're in with the Divas Division if they actually used more than just two Divas at a time.

The Divas Division has AJ, Aksana, Alicia Fox, Cameron, Eve, Kaitlyn, Layla, Naomi, Natalya, Rosa and Tamina. They had Beth Phoenix but now she's gone. They have those Divas but do absolutely nothing positive with the majority of them.

As much as I hate AJ, I can't ignore the fact that she can actually wrestle, she's not diabolically bad or anything like that, but for a long time she was just a valet for Daniel Bryan and then near the end of her valet days, she just spent her time in a neck brace pulling puppy dog eyes. She then became GM of Raw and did a whole lot of mic time and now she just gets into shouting matches with Vickie Guerrero. Why not just throw her in the ring.

Aksana was great as Cesaro's valet and I don't know why it was ended. Especially so suddenly and over just one match that Cesaro lost. The WWE can, and I think they are, working on Aksana more and giving her more training, so why not use her in the future?

Alicia Fox is actually pretty good in the ring and if the WWE stop changing her from heel to face then face to heel constantly, people might actually give a fuck about her. I think her time as Diva's Champion was alright, but now, she serves as just a jobber in the division.

Cameron can just remain as a valet. I've never seen her in a match and I don't even know if she's even had a match before, but if not, give her some training and then see where she goes.

Eve, Kaitlyn and Laya are the centre of the Divas universe right now and I like that Kaitlyn is actually being used. It was stupid having the winner of NXT Season 3 do fuck all and the woman who came third, basically get the treatment of a winner of the season. All three women are good but having them all be involved with each other is not so good. Introduce a forth Diva and then two of them break off into their own feud with each other then it'll give the division a "sense of expansion".

Naomi, the runner-up of NXT Season 3 can be thrown into the ring. Hell, why not make her the forth Diva of what I've said? Though saying that, she would have to turn heel, I guess.

Natalya is easily the best wrestler in the Divas Division by far, but for some reason, the WWE can't see this and instead, have her go from being a valet for The Hart Dynasty, to a two month reign as champion, to constantly farting, to jobbing and I've not watched this weeks SmackDown, but it looks like she might start dating The Great Khali. There's times where it actually annoys me that the WWE do this to her. Especially during the whole "Kelly Kelly Era" where her face was plastered everywhere and she was given constant matches and even the Divas Championship, even though she was pretty shit in the ring, while Beth and Natalya jobbed and farted. Natalya is probably the reason why that news of introducing NXT women is annoying me a bit. The have fucking Natalya and they're still sitting there basically wondering "Hmm, how do we make the Divas Division better?". The answer is right in front of them.

Rosa is a fantastic valet, as she's proved that with Epico & Primo, but it looks like she'll be leaving them for Del Rio, maybe. From what I remember of her time in the ring, she wasn't terrible but she wasn't great too. More matches, mean more training and I actually wouldn't mind seeing her in more matches.

My Tamina views are pretty much the same as my Natalya one, but not as "passionate". She's really good in the ring and more involvement from her would be interesting to see. I don't know why she isn't currently being used for anything. It's like she's disappeared.

So overall, to me, I don't see why there is thought of calling up NXT women. Not when you've got a division that all women, but one, can actually put on a match to some extent. They all have a least some experience in the ring and in front of a usual WWE crowd. The WWE have the answers to their problem, but they just aren't using them.
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Just have him randomly dance between pinfall attempts during all of the meaningless matches on Raw. AKA all of the matches on Raw.
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True, but they may be looking back to the days where they had 8 on 8 Divas tag matches and only 3 of them got any ringtime... one being in there only to break up the first pin attempt. They want to return the division to such dizzying heights!

And in general, the "answer to the solution" is pretty often right in front of them. On a lot of things. For example, if they lose a major heel to injury, they won't be like "Okay, Dolph: step up!" and then prop someone up to be in Dolph's position, they'll try to build a guy out of nowhere and likely have it blow up in their face because he got a huge reaction ONE TIME and sucks ass subsequently while leapfrogging Dolph and making him disgruntled about it. Then, say, Ziggles gets sick of that shit and walks away... now they have an injured heel, a guy who quit, and a prospect that didn't work out and they'll scratch their heads going "oh, what the fuck do we do now?" instead of taking the path of least resistance.

I believe what Heyman said about Punk on the DVD is true of a lot of talent WWE aquires: that get tremendous buzz, but WWE doesn't see what to do with them. They just keep them around so that they aren't making money for someone else. They can't keep crying that they want to rebuild the Diva's division, yet keep driving away talent like a Beth Phoenix or a Gail Kim with lack of use.

You can say "people don't care about women's wrestling" all you want, but if WWE really wanted to make people care and got behind it, people would care BECAUSE WWE got behind it and made people care. TNA proved that shit could work. WWE even proved that shit could work when they brought in Kong and everyone in the arenas went nuts not because she was hot or anything-we know she would NEVER be a Maxim Girl- but because they wanted to see her kill bitches in a gladatorial feeding frenzy. And she was supposed to be coming in as a monster heel. Unfortunate her life took the turn it did. But even if it didn't... how long would that run have last? I mean, who's to say they wouldn't have shelved her in a couple months and put her in the same boat of disuse that Natty and Tamina seem to "enjoy" right now?
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I mapped out a plan for the Divas Division one day when I felt like thinking about it, and here is what I came up with:

* The Vickie Guerrero vs. AJ Lee angle makes perfect sense. As far as female personalities go, you don't get a face/heel combo that clash just as well as Vickie and AJ. The WWE should have booked Team Vickie vs. Team AJ at Survivor Series.

* AJ Lee approaches Kaitlyn backstage and asks her to be a member of Team AJ. They've had problems in the past, but they both hate Vickie. Kaitlyn agrees, but just because she hates Vickie. Eve Torres offers to captain Team Vickie, because "It will be an honor to work with you, Miss Guerrero." Natalya forces AJ Lee to submit to the Sharpshooter after stretching her into an ungodly position, and Eve & Vickie offer her a spot on the team.

* During an AJ Lee/Kaitlyn vs. Eve/Natalya tag team match, Layla runs down to ringside and shoves Eve off the top rope, allowing Kaitlyn to sneak a pin off the Divas Champion. She has a microphone and announces that she will be part of "Team AJ" at Survivor Series.

* Vickie and Eve announce that Aksana will be part of their team, but then also have a plan. They announce (using Vickie's managing supervisor powers) that Kaitlyn and Layla will face off, with the winner being the #1 Contender for Eve's Divas Title. AJ Lee begs them not to let their egos get in the way of their team at Survivor Series, but it's clear that both Kaitlyn and Layla want to be the champion. Eve appears to Kaitlyn backstage and tells her that while it was her that got the title shot at Night of Champions when Kaitlyn was attacked -- who really stood to benefit from Kaitlyn being out? It was Layla, who was the champion after all. Kaitlyn gives this a think.

* Kaitlyn defeats Layla to become the #1 Contender for the Divas Title when Eve comes out and shoves Layla off the top rope as a receipt for what Layla did to her. Kaitlyn scores the pin and is the new #1 Contender, as Layla looks visibly bummed.

* AJ Lee tries to keep things steady between her team, and Kaitlyn agrees as long as Layla stays out of her match tonight, as Vickie announces that Tamina Snuka will be on her team at Survivor Series. AJ approaches Naomi backstage, and says that they know and respect each other from NXT, and that AJ can give Naomi the opportunity to show her stuff to the WWE Universe at Survivor Series. Naomi agrees and joins Team AJ.

* Kaitlyn and Eve Torres work the best possible match they can for the Divas Title, but Layla appears on the stage. Eve is all smiles, thinking that she has planted the seeds of dissent effectively. Kaitlyn is upset, and Eve thinks things are going her way, when Layla helps out Kaitlyn to roll-up Eve and win the title. Eve is horrified, and Kaitlyn & Layla celebrate together as it is clear that they have played Eve and Vickie.

* Alicia Fox offers to join Team Vickie, and Vickie tells Alicia that she remembers her. "You ruined my wedding!" Alicia tells Vickie that's in the past, and Vickie tells Alicia to get off her show. "You're banned from RAW!" An obviously upset Alicia Fox becomes "SmackDown exclusive" and makes a promise to Booker T to make SmackDown as "interesting" as she can. Alicia adopts a gimmick where she uses her sexual prowess to put on "shows" for the WWE Universe, pushing the PG limits as far as they will go. Alicia is added as the fifth member of Team AJ, although the other girls seem to disagree with Alicia's "Attitude era" antics. Vickie keeps the final member of her team a secret.

* To cause as much dysfunction as possible, Vickie books one last match before Survivor Series -- Kaitlyn vs. Layla for the Divas Championship. In that match, Eve costs Kaitlyn the bout, and her Divas Title reign is a short one, with Layla being the unwitting beneficiary of heel support.

* At Survivor Series, Kharma is revealed to be the final member of Team Vickie. AJ Lee, being the captain, offers to start in the ring with her. She tries her little heart out, but she's no match for Kharma. They go about ten minutes, with no one else tagging in. Eventually, the noble Naomi is all "Fuck this!" and tags herself in off a beaten AJ. Naomi throws everything she has at Kharma, and gets her off on her feet. This seems to inspire a combined Divas effort, and the babyfaces work together to try and take out Kharma. Things break down for a bit, and Layla and Naomi do some funking out together. Aksana tags herself in off the reeling Kharma, but runs into some double-team moves. Alicia Fox hits a Scissors Kick on Aksana to eliminate her. As Fox is celebrating, Kharma takes her head off with a clothesline and pins her after hitting an Implant Buster.

Layla comes off the top rope, but she is caught by Kharma, and then hit with a Michinoku Driver. Kharma hits her with a Sit-Down Powerbomb, and the Divas Champion is eliminated early. AJ Lee gets in the ring and tries to wear down Kharma, but Kharma flattens her out. Eve wants in on AJ. Vickie demands Kharma tag her in. "You want that contract, you tag her in!" Kharma looks annoyed, but she puts her head down and tags in Eve, who arrogantly prances around the ring. Kharma is on the apron, but slowly recovering Layla and Alicia Fox each grab a leg of her and pull her off the apron. AJ then makes a comeback on Eve, and there is no Kharma to tag. Natalya, however, comes in and locks the Sharpshooter on AJ. Kaitlyn breaks it up, and AJ tags in Kaitlyn who cleans house on Natalya. Tamina comes in and Kaitlyn is laid out with a Samoan drop. Tamina goes up for a Superfly Splash, but Naomi pulls Kaitlyn out of the way. A Running Powerslam later and Tamina is eliminated.

Kharma is ordered to get in there with Kaitlyn, and although Kaitlyn fights, she eventually succumbs to another Sit-Down Powerbomb. Naomi now enters against Kharma, but she is overpowered. Eve blind-tags herself in off Kharma, however, and Eve is the one who finishes off Naomi with a Neckbreaker. A pissed off Kharma gets back in the ring and hits Eve with an Implant Buster. Vickie is screaming "NOOOOO!" and a beaten and stretched out AJ Lee enters and covers Eve for the three count. Kharma walks to the back as Natalya and AJ are left as the final two. AJ is at a clear disadvantage as Natalya controls the pace. AJ makes a heroic comeback, however, but just as it looks like she is about to win the match, Natalya catches her in the Sharpshooter, and again bends AJ Lee out of proportion, and AJ has no choice but to tap out. Natalya and Vickie celebrate.

* This would lead to Eve Torres being named the #1 Contender by Vickie Guerrero, as part of a verbal agreement the two came to if Eve won the match. Natalya is offended, since it was her who won the match. Eve tells Natalya that it was all the hard work of herself and Vickie putting the team together, and that deserves to be rewarded. Natalya turns quasi-face by attacking Eve, and the two fight over who earns the right to face Layla for the Divas Title.

* Vickie Guerrero and AJ Lee still have issues left, and some higher power ends up forcing them into a match against each other at Tables, Ladders & Chairs. Vickie ends up revealing that she promised Kharma a contract if her team won the match. It looked like Vickie was going to screw Kharma over for walking out on her at Survivor Series, but Vickie desperately needs Kharma in her corner now that AJ gets a one-on-one match with her. Kharma reluctantly agrees, if Vickie begs on her knees. Vickie does, and the vengeful goddess seems appeased. AJ Lee wins that match against Vickie Guerrero, but AJ is laid out by Kharma post-match, leading to a match between the two at the Royal Rumble.

* This leaves Naomi, Tamina, Kaitlyn and Alicia Fox to work the Divas under-card for a bit.

MEANWHILE

* On SmackDown, you debut Paige as Booker T's new Diva signing. She is her usual cheery self, and she manages to upset another Diva prospect (maybe someone from the independent scene), and Paige gets the clean pin with RamPaige. Booker T hands Paige her new WWE contract. The next week, as Paige makes her way out for a match against some other girl, she is attacked in the aisle by an older woman who looks a bit like her. JBL, being the knowledgeable fellow that he is, recognises that is "Saraya," Paige's mother. Josh Mathews begs the question of why a mother would attack her own daughter.

* Saraya reveals her motivations -- "I never got an opportunity! I gave you life and you have stolen my moment!" Saraya and Paige have a violent feud on SmackDown, which could be used to entrench Paige as a clear fan-favourite in the Divas Division.
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All things willing, this could actually lead to a Divas Elimination Chamber at the February PPV, as well. Natalya defending the Divas Title against Kharma, AJ Lee, Saraya, Paige and Layla -- perhaps under the orders of a pissed off Eve Torres, who wants to see all her rivals hurt each other. The match would come down to Kharma and AJ Lee fighting it out for the Divas Title, and Kharma again coming up victorious despite AJ's best efforts and becoming the new Divas Champion.

Kharma would reveal on RAW that she despises the idea of being a "Divas" Champion, and she brings back the Women's Championship as the prize for female Superstars in the WWE.
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The easy, quicker to explain way of fixing it would be to stop fucking having someone dominate and look good for a month and then when the next challenger steps up, suddenly, she destroys that chick who was looking so dominant for a month and then she looks dominant herself for a month, etc...

Fucking Layla for the most recent example. She was on top of the division and looked like the best diva in WWE kayfabe-wise for a bit and now they wanna put over Kaitlyn so she comes out and squashes Layla to make her look good...

It's horseshit booking. No diva will ever get over as a serious competitor (in divas terms) like that.
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Before Layla it was Beth Phoenix. Remember when she was dominant? Then remember when it was someone else's turn to challenge so suddenly the dominant Beth Phoenix couldn't beat a fucking diva who she could squash in seconds previously?

They do the same retarded booking with the guys but it's more glaring with the divas since the division is so small you can clearly see the inconsistency.
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So overall, to me, I don't see why there is thought of calling up NXT women. Not when you've got a division that all women, but one, can actually put on a match to some extent. They all have a least some experience in the ring and in front of a usual WWE crowd. The WWE have the answers to their problem, but they just aren't using them.
They might have some experience but its still pretty low considering only a couple manage to be over with the crowd or are interesting enough to be relevant.

I think if the WWE really does change the focus, they are not looking at having to spend all that time to rebuild and instead want already "made" wrestlers in terms of quality (either in wrestling skills or in characters) which reduces the division to just a couple of useable people.

The ones they call up from NXT would already have more wrestling skills than most of the current Divas division so that takes care of that part of the division.
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There is no depth to the Divas Division. There are no feuds or rivalries that go on. All the girls hate each other because they are girls and that's what girls do, right? They turn face and heel depending on which team they are on this week, and the only time they fight over anything other than the title, it is the right to challenge for the title or because they made fun of each other's hair or beauty products.

The Divas Division needs characters. It needs marketable women. Right now they are all "hard working girls who used to be models but now kick ass." What about the women who have trained for this specifically? What about women that could have merchandise produced and sold. How about a masked woman, providing little girls in the WWE audience with their own Rey Mysterio/Sin Cara like role model they can look up to? How about a babyface Diva who isn't stereotypically pretty, but just works her fucking ass off to get to where she is?

There is a place for the sex appeal of the Divas, don't get me wrong -- but there is absolutely no reason you cannot have a variety of personalities and types in the division.
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