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Old 03-19-2019, 02:24 PM   #1
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Is there any chance Batista beats Triple H at Wrestlemania?
I like Batista. Seems like a good guy who could be a valuable part timer if his character is treated better than in his last return. I don’t mind Triple H. This isn’t an “OMG TRIPLE H ALWAYS BOOKS HIMSELF TO WIN” thread. Because he doesn’t. He jobs plenty. But apparently he’s the “hero” in this feud which makes me think of his Lesnar feud that led to him going over at Wrestlemania which was just ridiculous.

And here’s another big issue with that. There’s a main event storyline on the same show that revolves around everything else being fake. I know Batista didn’t actually beat up poor Ric Flair. But that seems to be the only reason anyone is supposed to hate him and love Triple H. But within the same universe, they’re telling you that that didn’t really happen.

So, is there any chance Batista wins, which would completely go against logical wrestling storytelling? Or is he definitely going to lose because he is the fake villain in a show that desperately wants to remind you that he’s just a fake villain?
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Old 03-19-2019, 02:30 PM   #2
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I honestly think there is. Unless he's getting paid a lot more money than I know about just to go down. Then good on him.

I mean, he's Drax The Destroyer. I think a lot of fans of movies who don't watch wrestling who heard about this probably fully expect him to win.

It's like, The Rock coming back for a match. You know for sure he's guaranteed to win. Unless, you know, he's in a match with Roman. Which we know for damn sure he'll go down just so he can go suuuuuuuuuuuper over.
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Old 03-19-2019, 03:23 PM   #3
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I don't think so. Why would you book Batista to when considering he won't be rasslin no more and HHH will?
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Old 03-19-2019, 03:27 PM   #4
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Is this definitely a one-off though? If he’s never coming back, sure. Have him job. If he’s down to come back for years to come though, then make him look like another Lesnar.
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Old 03-19-2019, 05:12 PM   #5
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So, is there any chance Batista wins, which would completely go against logical wrestling storytelling? Or is he definitely going to lose because he is the fake villain in a show that desperately wants to remind you that he’s just a fake villain?
Doubt it and probably just Triple H wanting to get his win back for putting over Batista years ago. Doesn't help that a week after their match is made official, WWE decided to release a video showing Batista as one of the few stars who Triple H has never beaten in a singles match.
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Is this definitely a one-off though? If he’s never coming back, sure. Have him job. If he’s down to come back for years to come though, then make him look like another Lesnar.
He's 52, injury prone with a successful acting career, I doubt he will do anymore. Outside of this match what else could be of interest?
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Well, Triple H is pretty much the same age so I don’t think that matters. If Batista isn’t too big of a star to return now, he’ll probably never be. So why not make an investment in him if he seemed willing to keep coming back? Jobbing Batista too much is potentially harmful. Triple H isn’t going up OR down credibility-wise at this point.
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Old 03-19-2019, 07:39 PM   #8
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Mantis will put HHH to sleep
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I'm not trying to shit on HHH here but he has a hard time being critical and realistic about his own abilities. This Batista match is gonna be booked to go 25 minutes when neither guy has any business going over 10-15. And HHH is going to go over.

Whereas, a 10-15 minute bloody, action-filled sprint with Batista going over leading into rematches would be better.
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He should absolutely win, but he wont.
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Batista has a chance of winning in the same way that I have a chance to have a threesome with Becky Lynch and Alexa Bliss.
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Batista has a chance of winning in the same way that I have a chance to have a threesome with Becky Lynch and Alexa Bliss.
It technically wouldn't be a 3way cause they'd ignore you and do each other.
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I'm not trying to shit on HHH here but he has a hard time being critical and realistic about his own abilities. This Batista match is gonna be booked to go 25 minutes when neither guy has any business going over 10-15. And HHH is going to go over.

Whereas, a 10-15 minute bloody, action-filled sprint with Batista going over leading into rematches would be better.
It would certainly be better. But then again , that’s what happened with Lesnar and I now wonder if Triple H just getting his win and getting it over with would have been the better option.

Triple H went into the match with Brock as the face, tapped out and then stood up with tears in his eyes expecting a riotous applause and was met with “You tapped out!” chants... And he still went on to be the “against all odds” hero who got his win back. It was quite tone deaf. I feel like the Flair attack was his way of making himself the hero ready to overcome one way or another again.
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It would certainly be better. But then again , that’s what happened with Lesnar and I now wonder if Triple H just getting his win and getting it over with would have been the better option.

Triple H went into the match with Brock as the face, tapped out and then stood up with tears in his eyes expecting a riotous applause and was met with “You tapped out!” chants... And he still went on to be the “against all odds” hero who got his win back. It was quite tone deaf. I feel like the Flair attack was his way of making himself the hero ready to overcome one way or another again.
That was a top 4 bad Mania wins for H so far. Plus as a babyface he had to use HBK, a sledgehammer, and steel stairs to beat the heel Lesnar.

Beating Sting at Mania 32 was stupid since it was Stings only Mania match, it was stupid cause they built it as a WWE vs WCW final battle which made no sense. DX helped H while nWo helped Sting, even though nWo was against WCW and Sting. Plus X-Pac was in both DX and nWo, plus WWE's nWo which further makes nWo representing WCW weirder. That's not even talking about how after beating Sting they had H get beat up by Rock and Ronda.

Beating Booker T at Mania 19 was bad because they built it as tongue in cheek how H was racist and blacks can't be champ, then didn't pay it off with a Booker win.

Beating Orton at Mania 25 was nonsensical all over the place. They built it as this big shoot breaking Kayfabe with H defending his now revealed to be real life wife and in laws. They had H go to Randy's "real life" house (it wasn't, just some random house in Florida) and attack him in front of his "real life" wife (it wasn't, just an actress), with a sledgehammer. Then in the course of this blood feud, they booked the match as a "if H gets DQed he loses his title" in order to, actually I'm still not sure what the logic of that was considering the build. To top it all off, even with that stipulation, they STILL booked H to win by using a sledgehammer. WHAT?!?!?

H is the worst.
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I see no reason for Batista to win. The whole story is now more HHH avenging his buddy Flair than Batista finally beating HHH. Doubt Dave is hanging around so it doesn't make much sense for him to win. Only match I'm looking forward to less is Angle/Corbin
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Seems like its a one-off appearance for Dancing Dave, the logical ending is that he loses and HHH gets revenge for Flair, but if Batista were to win, HHH could keep calling him out week after week, but Dave has "gone back to Hollywood" and doesn't address it at all. Once Guardians 3 is in the can and he's finished all of his obligations, Batista can come back on a random Raw and attack HHH from behind, leading to the rematch at whatever PPV in a steel cage, HIAC< sledgehammer on a pole, etc.
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Not a chance. This is Hunter getting his win back much like Hogan beating the Warrior.
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I think Batista wins with Ric's help.
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Batista's said on a few podcasts that he only wanted to do one last match with Hunter and then call it a career. So I expect this is it for him.
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Calling it now ... 4/10 match.
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This will be MOTY candidate. Their series of matches in 2005 were beautiful.
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This will be MOTY candidate. Their series of matches in 2005 were beautiful.
I agree will more than likely be the best match on the card.
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I agree will more than likely be the best match on the card.
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I don't hate either guy and actually really like Batista. But have you seen HHH's recent matches?
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I don't hate either guy and actually really like Batista. But have you seen HHH's recent matches?
Yeah. Been very good. Emphasis on storytelling.
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The one with taker and kane was the drizzling shits.
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The one with taker and kane was the drizzling shits.
It was far too long for a spectacle. Similar to this Batista/HHH match or the Goldberg/Brock match at WM33 - it just needed to be a quick 10 minute hectic pier 6 brawl.
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Triple H/Rollins and Triple H/Reigns both put me to fucking sleep

Triple H/Ambrose, however, was quite enjoyable
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Triple H has only put over one person in the industry, and the only reason this match is happening is because his ego is happy to get that win back.
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Fuck you, Guru Dave, you creepy piece of shit. Make a fucking point or fuck off.
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Fuck these forums are shit these days. Fucking Guru Dave. Asswipe.
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How the fuck am I wrong, Dave? Go on.
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Triple H is as egomaniacal as he’s ever been. He HAS to main event WrestleMania in 2016. He has to headline the Melbourne show, which was supposed to be the largest pro-wrestling crowd in Australian history, until his non-drawing ass was put in the main event. He has to main event the Indian shows that got consolidated to one show instead of two and still didn’t sell out. He has to have 30 minutes to stink up the joint and tear muscles because it’s still the Triple H show whenever he wants it to be. And as I said, he’s only ever put over one person — Batista. No one else has ever beaten Triple H and benefit from it. Not one person. You can’t name them because they don’t exist.

Triple H is the most overrated wrestler in history. He didn’t draw in Hollywood when he tried to make The Rock jump, so now we’re stuck with him in wrestling.
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Even if this was fully intended to be Batista’s last match, he’s a star and Triple H is only pushed like one. No one is watching WrestleMania to see Triple H beat Batista. Anyone who is tuning in to see Drax in WWE will be more rewarded seeing him win.
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Ha ha.... Noid isn't really wrong, but I am laughing at how much he was set off by one emoticon.
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To be fair, Batista is the one who kept repeatedly pushing for this match. Not Triple H.
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I'm not trying to shit on HHH here but he has a hard time being critical and realistic about his own abilities. This Batista match is gonna be booked to go 25 minutes when neither guy has any business going over 10-15. And HHH is going to go over.

Whereas, a 10-15 minute bloody, action-filled sprint with Batista going over leading into rematches would be better.
I don't want to see multiple Triple H vs Batista matches in 2019. I'm not even excited about seeing one, tbh.
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