Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Wonder Woman is easily the best recent DC movie. By a mile.

[Simple Fan]

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 Wonder Woman is easily the best recent DC movie. By a mile.

They're the same movie pretty much and don't see how no one else sees that. Both start as kids not knowing their true origins. They both have the parents who somewhat hide or lie about who they really are as they grow up. They both find out who they are mid way through and the villian in both was someone from their origin. There are alot more but I dont want to be at this all day. Only real difference in my opinion is Wonder Woman makes that choice on the battlefield to be a hero and Superman is just forced into it.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Originally Posted by Simple Fan They're the same movie pretty much and don't see how no one else sees that. Both start as kids not knowing their true origins. They both have the parents who somewhat hide or lie about who they really are as they grow up. They both find out who they are mid way through and the villian in both was someone from their origin. There are alot more but I dont want to be at this all day. Only real difference in my opinion is Wonder Woman makes that choice on the battlefield to be a hero and Superman is just forced into it.

One is wandering aimlessly doing nothing with his life, stumbles onto his origin and decides to do nothing with it until he reacts to a threat and is obligated to help.

The other grows up with a strong sense of ideals and morals, strives to excel and live for a higher purpose, and jumps at the chance to fight a war the isn't hers not because she has to, but because it is the right thing to do and because she can.

Not even close to the same movie other than "chosen one origin movie". By your logic Batman Begins and Man of Steel are the same. Even though they're clearly not.

[Simple Fan]

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 One is wandering aimlessly doing nothing with his life, stumbles onto his origin and decides to do nothing with it until he reacts to a threat and is obligated to help. The other grows up with a strong sense of ideals and morals, strives to excel and live for a higher purpose, and jumps at the chance to fight a war the isn't hers not because she has to, but because it is the right thing to do and because she can. Not even close to the same movie other than "chosen one origin movie". By your logic Batman Begins and Man of Steel are the same. Even though they're clearly not.

That's basically what I said was the only difference in the two movies. Everything else matches up preety much exact to the other. It's not the main characters but the supporting characters and the story told which is the same.

I don't see Batman Begins even lining up with the two as I feel it told a way different story.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Originally Posted by Simple Fan That's basically what I said was the only difference in the two movies. Everything else matches up preety much exact to the other. It's not the main characters but the supporting characters and the story told which is the same.

Wonder Woman told a story of a young girl who strived to do more and has a sense of purpose and undying desire to do the right thing. Her supporting cast both admires and believes in her cause and willingly put their lives at risk for her, with one sacrificing himself so she can save the day, as he explicitly said.

Superman told the story of a man who stumbled thru life with no purpose or desire to do anything, who happens to figure out what he is, and questions what he should do and only acts because he feels obligated to. Those around him waver on there feelings for him and intentions, since he doesn't make them very clear as he plods along.

The only thing they have in common is they are origin movies for super powered beings. The actual story they tell are not the same. Like Destor and others have said, strip it down to the bolts and movie plots don't differ much.

[Simple Fan]

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 Wonder Woman told a story of a young girl who strived to do more and has a sense of purpose and undying desire to do the right thing. Her supporting cast both admires and believes in her cause and willingly put their lives at risk for her, with one sacrificing himself so she can save the day, as he explicitly said. Superman told the story of a man who stumbled thru life with no purpose or desire to do anything, who happens to figure out what he is, and questions what he should do and only acts because he feels obligated to. Those around him waver on there feelings for him and intentions, since he doesn't make them very clear as he plods along. The only thing they have in common is they are origin movies for super powered beings. The actual story they tell are not the same. Like Destor and others have said, strip it down to the bolts and movie plots don't differ much.

I'll have to disagree but I understand what you are saying. The two characters act completely different but the story told is pretty much the same. Take gender and their personality out of it and its a story of a child who's an outcast and has to figure out who they really are by themselves as they grow up, find love, and face an enemy from their past. It may be a typical origin story but of all these superheroe movies these two tell are the most similar as any. I haven't seen another one that was that on point with all most every aspect of the story.

I liked Suicide Squad as well, wasn't big on the main villian and thought it should have been Joker but I thought it was decent.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Originally Posted by Simple Fan I'll have to disagree but I understand what you are saying. The two characters act completely different but the story told is pretty much the same. Take gender and their personality out of it and its a story of a child who's an outcast and has to figure out who they really are by themselves as they grow up, find love, and face an enemy from their past. It may be a typical origin story but of all these superheroe movies these two tell are the most similar as any. I haven't seen another one that was that on point with all most every aspect of the story. I liked Suicide Squad as well, wasn't big on the main villian and thought it should have been Joker but I thought it was decent.

In no way was Diana an outcast. She was universally loved by not only her own people, but the people she meets as she embarks on her journey. It's like, at what point does Superman go looking for trouble or stand up and declare himself a powerful being who wants to help because he can and its the right thing to do? The story they told for each character isn't remotely the same beyond superpower being comes out to the world to save it. That's it. The rest of it isn't at all alike.

And Suicide Squad was an absolute turd. It was horrible. BvS at least had some great standalone scenes. Suicide Squad was a steaming pile of shit with a few cute lines from Margot Robbie.