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Old 02-24-2022, 04:52 PM   #601
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I’d be OK if he didn’t even sign anywhere and just toured all over. Let him be the token mystery guy in the Revolution ladder match and swing around some meaty lads. Then go work a Terminus show and then a stint in NJPW.
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Old 02-24-2022, 05:00 PM   #602
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Cesaro gone from WWE per Fightful and PWInsider
Cesaro checks every box for Tony Khan

1. Used to work for WWE
2. Can talk about how WWE held him back

Thats actually the full list
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Old 02-24-2022, 06:07 PM   #603
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Why would Cesaro remind him of Konnan? Cause they are both bald?

But anyways, yeah, he will def end up in AEW.
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Old 02-24-2022, 06:08 PM   #604
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wherever he goes i just hope i can call him Claudio Castagnoli again
That name is not marketable. AEW would be wise to change it, but they won't.
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Cesaro has knocked Russia/Ukraine out of the top trending spot on Twitter in the U.S.
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Old 02-24-2022, 06:29 PM   #606
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That name is not marketable. AEW would be wise to change it, but they won't.
the worlds most moniest making man will do just fine
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Cesaro has uppercut Russia/Ukraine out of the top trending spot on Twitter in the U.S.
Fixed
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Old 02-24-2022, 06:34 PM   #608
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'Member last year when Cesaro was getting another random push and was beating Daniel Bryan clean on TV, and was in a singles program vs Seth Rollins at Wrestlemania?
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Old 02-24-2022, 07:17 PM   #609
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Member when Cesaro got the second biggest pop of the night at Wrestlemania XXX and then creative was just like “nah”
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Old 02-25-2022, 09:36 AM   #611
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For the love of God I hope that Cesaro goes to NJPW proper, they need him and AEW doesn't. If that isn't to his liking then him working for ROH would make a lot of sense as well.
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A Chris Hero/Claudio reunion in ROH against the Briscoes would be a huge program for them to return with.
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Old 02-25-2022, 03:49 PM   #613
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I will order the next Bloodsport in a heartbeat if they book Claudio vs. Thatcher
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Claudio Castagnoli for New Japan, please.
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Old 02-25-2022, 06:16 PM   #615
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He’d do so well in Japan. It’s hard to believe he’s never gone over there in his career already.
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He’d do so well in Japan. It’s hard to believe he’s never gone over there in his career already.
He’s been in the WWE for a loooooong time. New Japan really kicked it up as a fad in the online community when AJ Styles went over. Cesaro was already in the WWE.

I think that would be the best place for him. He can wrestle there for 18 months and be the “best wrestler in the world” and then weigh up his options then with an appreciable view of the lay of the land.

I’m worried he’s going to sign with AEW and try to show he has a personality or end up as another Brodie Lee, in the sense that they’re treated as this massive deal but when left to their devices they prove Vince McMahon right.

I’m all for Claudio being an anchor in a new promotion too. There’s a flavor of guys out there now that don’t fit that AEW vibe that could basically form their own promotion with an emphasis on the technical side of things.
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Old 02-25-2022, 07:44 PM   #617
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Cesaro, as great a worker as he is, has his short comings. Mainly, that he can't cut a promo to save his life. His other major short coming is only a short coming in AEW: In that he is a big athletic guy who knows what the inside of a gym looks like. That seems to be the antithesis of what gets pushed in that company. And he'd have a repeat of his time in Chikara, with many of the same players involved. I mean, I'm sure the Bucks would love to put themselves over the Kings of Wrestling, but beyond that, there isn't much for Cesaro there.

Ironically, he'd need to be an even better talker to get over in NWA, where everyone seems to be at least decent. On top of that, he's a big fish in a small pond.

He would be best off in New Japan, strictly because he doesn't have to be a good promo guy to get over there.
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What if he teamed with fat Chris Hero? They’d cancel each other out.
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Member when Cesaro got the second biggest pop of the night at Wrestlemania XXX and then creative was just like “nah”

Doesn't matter what "creative" has in the works when you have a 76 year old out of touch loon being the one who gives the yay or nay to storyline or characters put forward
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Cesaro hit his ceiling. Not World Champ material IMO.

Cesaro to me is the Arn Anderson of the Era. Not a top, top guy but possibly the best tag worker of the Era and a highly valuable upper mid card, but I wouldn't put the World Title on him
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Arn was better than Cesaro will ever be for the simple fact that he can cut a promo and a damn good.
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Cesaro hit his ceiling. Not World Champ material IMO.

Cesaro to me is the Arn Anderson of the Era. Not a top, top guy but possibly the best tag worker of the Era and a highly valuable upper mid card, but I wouldn't put the World Title on him
Maybe not the one. But I can see value in him being a transitional guy or holding it for a European tour or something. He’s not going to sink the company by holding it, but he’s not exactly going to usher in a new boom period either.

If I were him, I’d actually try and see value in being one of the best ever not to hold one. They’re like candy now. But being in the shortlist of guys like Piper, Anderson, Regal, etc. is lofty company. Unless it makes sense to put it on him because for whatever reason it does make sense for business. A sustained run in New Japan or ROH for example.
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'Member last year when Cesaro was getting another random push and was beating Daniel Bryan clean on TV, and was in a singles program vs Seth Rollins at Wrestlemania?
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'Member the "Cesaro Section"?

Or when Heyman supposedly saw the match between him and Sami Zayn in NXT way back when and wanted to work with him after, and he apparently got vetoed by the office? Grain of salt and all since it's a Heyman story, but the other side of that is actually a very WWE move which makes me inclined to believe Paul.
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Cesaro hit his ceiling. Not World Champ material IMO.
Meh. That's one of the downsides of the whole "Perception is reality, pal!" things. If they got behind him to be a champion in any sustained way like they planned for Roman Reigns YEARS ahead of him even being remotely ready for it - he was getting that top spot come hell or high water, he would be seen as a champion. It's easy to say Roman's a star *now*, but how about when he cut that shaky "I'm the man" pre-Shield promo in NXT? Nobody bought that shit, not even him.

If you're booked repeatedly to look like a go-nowhere shithead, guess what you'll be percieved as?
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Old 02-28-2022, 01:12 AM   #625
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That promo was early in Reigns' career. Like in his second year. Cesaro has been doing this for over 20 years, and his promos never got any better.

You can try and build him up as a star all you want, but as soon as he opens his mouth, it's over.

And that's fine. Not everyone can be the guy. That said, he still wasn't used to the best of his abilities. They could have done a lot more with him, but that is par for the course with wwe.
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That promo was early in Reigns' career. Like in his second year. Cesaro has been doing this for over 20 years, and his promos never got any better.

You can try and build him up as a star all you want, but as soon as he opens his mouth, it's over.

And that's fine. Not everyone can be the guy. That said, he still wasn't used to the best of his abilities. They could have done a lot more with him, but that is par for the course with wwe.
Sadly, I think this is true. I also don’t think he got anywhere near as over as people said. I wanted him to be so over, but he always felt a bit tepid, even if I thought he was brilliant in the ring.
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That promo was early in Reigns' career. Like in his second year. Cesaro has been doing this for over 20 years, and his promos never got any better.

You can try and build him up as a star all you want, but as soon as he opens his mouth, it's over.

And that's fine. Not everyone can be the guy. That said, he still wasn't used to the best of his abilities. They could have done a lot more with him, but that is par for the course with wwe.
This. This is the feeling I end up with a lot of WWE leavers. They’re not always championship material/top guys but they are to a man not used to their full potential. There is always something “left on the table”.
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Cesaro is a perfect example of why managers are important to wrestling. Imagine if he had a Bobby Heenan or Jim Cornette type manager to handle all the promos for him.
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Cesaro is a perfect example of why managers are important to wrestling. Imagine if he had a Bobby Heenan or Jim Cornette type manager to handle all the promos for him.
It's why I felt Cesaro was paired with Sheamus for that tag run. Both were exceptional workers but if they needed to cut a promo, Sheamus could do it, and Cesaro could sit there and nod and throw in a line or two and it was "good enough"
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Cesaro isn't a full fledged main eventer, but in a 2 World Title world where Jinder Mahal was champion, Cesaro could have been a serviceable main eventer in lulls.
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Cesaro isn't a full fledged main eventer, but in a 2 World Title world where Jinder Mahal was champion, Cesaro could have been a serviceable main eventer in lulls.
Crazy to think. They saw Jinder as a more credible World Champion than Cesaro.
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Cesaro isn't a full fledged main eventer, but in a 2 World Title world where Jinder Mahal was champion, Cesaro could have been a serviceable main eventer in lulls.

So much of this, right here. Fuck Jinder. For every reason Cesaro is "not the guy" Jinder is that and then some. Token politics for the loss.


Def don't think he's "the man" but he was definitely someone who could have done more.
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WWE wasn't trying to expand in Switzerland like they were India
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I get the business side of it, but still, it was shit.
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The Jinder Mahal title run remains one of the strangest things ever. Jinder returns in 2016 to help flesh out the brand split, works as an undercard guy filling out Raw, gets drafted to SmackDown, wins a #1 contenders match with zero build, then beats Orton and ends up holding the title for ages.

I wasn't averse to pushing somebody new or whatever, but they so rarely have an organic rise to the top in WWE. It's usually somebody being rocket strapped, and in this case it was blithely obvious he only got his push because they wanted Indian expansion. Nothing against Jinder as by all accounts he's a nice dude, but it certainly felt unearned.
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Also, they could have expanded to 5 different countries, since he spoke 5 languages.


De kunde också ha expanderat till 5 olika länder, eftersom han talade 5 språk.



Außerdem hätten sie auf 5 verschiedene Länder expandieren können, da er 5 Sprachen sprach.


Také se mohli rozšířit do 5 různũch zemí, protože mluvil 5 jazyky.


En outre, ils auraient pu s’étendre ā 5 pays différents, puisqu’il parlait 5 langues.
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Everything about Jinder was so fucking rotten lol

Remember his feud with Nakamura lol
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The feuds with Orton and Nakamura both felt utterly endless.

The fucking Punjabi Prison match....
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