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Old 06-21-2018, 01:20 AM   #41
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I've had Pneumonia twice. It's not good. I'm lucky. But i'm young.
It's one thing to just get pneumonia, it's another to get pneumonia when your heart and basically your whole body is on it's last legs.
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Old 06-21-2018, 03:38 AM   #42
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It's one thing to just get pneumonia, it's another to get pneumonia when your heart and basically your whole body is on it's last legs.
Way different!
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:27 AM   #43
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Mick Foley going off on WWE not inducting Vader into the HOF, apparently it's the one thing Vader wanted most in life and WWE knew it...or something along those lines...

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Every year, most of those WWE HOF slots are filled by wrestlers who didn't draw a fraction of the money, or contribute to the wrestling business on nearly the level that Leon White/Vader did. No matter how many times I talked with Leon, the conversation would eventually turn to the Hall of Fame, and I would constantly tell him that no one or no thing, not even his absence from the WWE Hall of Fame could take away from what he had accomplished around the world. - Mick Foley


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Old 06-21-2018, 10:29 AM   #44
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The Hall means fuck all and I hate that he was worked by it.

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Old 06-21-2018, 12:21 PM   #45
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Meh. You know how Mick gets. Strong in his convictions even when they're meaningless.
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Old 06-21-2018, 06:09 PM   #46
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Meh. You know how Mick gets. Strong in his convictions even when they're meaningless.
Think destor is talking about Vader, not mick.
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Old 06-21-2018, 07:30 PM   #47
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He really did seem like a gentle giant. So many stories about him crying and being upset, and his infamous interview post match in WWE. HBK really shafted him in WWF, he deserved far better.

The very first image I saw of WCW as a kid on ITV, was him at ringside with that awesome helmet. I couldn't look away.

Always chose him when he was a legend in the WWE games cause his moveset, music and whole persona was just so fun. He really was excellent.

Foley is overly sentimental and likes to go OTT at times, but struggling to think of any big guy who was a better all round package than Vader.

Sad to see that he never got the recognition while alive that would have meant so much to him.
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Old 06-21-2018, 07:48 PM   #48
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In Mick's defense, purposely leaving Vader out of the hof because he wants it so much and they find it funny not inducting him, is totally something I could see wwe officials doing.
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Old 06-21-2018, 07:49 PM   #49
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Think destor is talking about Vader, not mick.
I know. But Mick is just bigging up the whole thing because he's a mark for himself and Vader helped make him.
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:13 PM   #50
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Gonna have to rewatch Fist of the North Star in his honor.

RIP Big Van Vader.
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Old 06-22-2018, 02:28 AM   #51
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I'd rather see the PWHF induct Vader. Might not be as high profile as WWE's but it's worth the attention.
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Old 06-22-2018, 09:43 AM   #52
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If Vader was in shit health, I can see why WWE wouldn't want to put him through it, probably fearing another Warrior-esque death.
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Old 06-22-2018, 09:53 AM   #53
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Yeah, would be terrible for an all timer to be able to give one last "Thank you" speech and be remembered fondly for it.
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Old 06-22-2018, 11:30 AM   #54
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Not saying he didn't deserve it, but I can see WWE not wanting to put someone through it who was 3 weeks out of heart surgery and 3 weeks before another.
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Old 06-22-2018, 11:31 AM   #55
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That said, he's the best big man ever probably and it's absurd how he was treated from 94-98 by WCW and WWE
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Old 06-22-2018, 11:40 AM   #56
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I really enjoyed Vader's two part pod cast with Steve Austin, a great look at his career and especially his work in Japan. If you haven't herd it give it a go, came out like two years ago.
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Old 06-22-2018, 11:47 AM   #57
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Foley is hovering in Bret Hart territory, becoming more and more obnoxious with each public outcry that ultimately sounds like "REMEMBER ME".
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Old 06-22-2018, 09:52 PM   #58
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Pretty shit considering the material they have to work with.
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I think, all things considered, this whole situation just goes to show how little value, appreciation and respect Vince, Triple H, and the other WWE folks in charge, currently have (and maybe all along have had) for Vader and his talent, etc.

Was he the greatest of all time? No, but he was a really gifted talent, dedicated performer and (from most accounts) a genuinely kind person. He happened to be at his peak in an era where most guys were less so, in all those areas.

It's a shame that Vader, who just wanted some acknowledgement or appreciation of his dedication and gifts still hasn't and (at least so far apparently) can't or won't get the deserved appreciation he so craved and deserved. Sadly, it seems like he will go on to be underrated and unappreciated by most of those folks in charge who could give him the most public respect and appreciation even after his passing.
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Old 06-23-2018, 12:12 AM   #60
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He'll probably be in the next HOF class now.
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Old 06-23-2018, 12:37 AM   #61
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If the rumor of Bam Bam going in next year and WWE holds to their 1 dead star only rule, could see Vader get put in the following year.

Either way, WWE is going to catch flak for their decision. If they put him in next year, complaints on why they didn't do it while he was alive. If they don't, complaints on them still ignoring Vader even in death for their Hall.
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Old 06-23-2018, 12:46 AM   #62
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I couldn't imagine wrestling fans complaining.
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Old 06-23-2018, 03:39 AM   #63
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Vader will probably get the full music video tribute come RAW.
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Old 06-23-2018, 10:04 AM   #64
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Old 06-23-2018, 10:26 AM   #65
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I'd bet Vader doesn't get in the Hall of Fame for at least 5 years. The WWE is ridiculously PR conscious and I'm sure they're aware that if they put in Vader too close to his death it'll make them look like giant assholes.
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I'd bet Vader doesn't get in the Hall of Fame for at least 5 years. The WWE is ridiculously PR conscious and I'm sure they're aware that if they put in Vader too close to his death it'll make them look like giant assholes.
Very thing I was thinking. Plus as Smeat mentioned Bam Bam may be going in next yr.
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Old 06-27-2018, 08:22 PM   #67
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Old 06-27-2018, 09:53 PM   #68
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Old 07-06-2018, 12:56 PM   #69
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terryna does not have that much rep yet (10+)
RIP Vader. One of the best.
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