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Old 07-11-2018, 01:21 PM   #1
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Does the WWE have an agenda when it comes to who they elect as a HoF'er ?

The list of people not in the WWE HoF is astounding, especially when you look at who is in the WWE HoF .

Snoop fucking Dogg and Kid Rock got elected before

Owen Hart
Demolition
British Bulldog

Sting is in and he had a fucking cup of tea with the WWE. The motherfucking Godfather is in the Hall of Fame, but not Owen Hart or the others.

I've been saying this all to often lately, but i'll say it again. FUCK YOU WWE.


It dont matter who did what to who at this point. The fact is, we went to war. And now there aint no going back. It's what war is you know? Once you're in it, you're in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie, but we gotta fight!
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:24 PM   #2
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Owen Harts wife refuses to allow him to be inducted.
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:26 PM   #3
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Owen Harts wife refuses to allow him to be inducted.
She has no say in it. They can induct without her as far as I know.
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:28 PM   #4
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She has no say in it. They can induct without her as far as I know.
Not if they want good PR.
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Does Owen's wife own the rights to his likeness or something? I've never been clear on what the issue is there.
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Considering he died performing one of their stunts, a lawsuit over this would not do the WWE any public favors.
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Considering he died performing one of their stunts, a lawsuit over this would not do the WWE any public favors.
it already happened. They paid money to the family.
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Speculation is that the lawsuit required them not to promote his likeness. they didnt want them making money off the tragedy they caused. details arent public though.
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Whoever can sell tickets and make for a good show. If there was a legit process there would be a miles-long list of ppl who would be in. Shit, you can induct a class or two w/ people from the CWC years alone. Snoop and Kid Rock were inducted into the Celebrity Wing and the legal issues w/ Martha prevented the Hart Of Gold DVD 2-3 yrs ago so just imagine a HOF induction.
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Old 07-11-2018, 02:00 PM   #10
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The standards for induction are who will garner mainstream attention (the celebrity wing) and who will draw the hardcores who come out for WrestleMania weekend to the ceremony (everyone else). It's all an agenda.
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Wasn't Bill Eadie part of a lawsuit against WWE recently? That probably pushed Demolition pretty far to the back of the line as far as a HOF induction.
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Wasn't Bill Eadie part of a lawsuit against WWE recently? That probably pushed Demolition pretty far to the back of the line as far as a HOF induction.
Yes, the concussion lawsuit but it got tossed out. Not sure if Barry Darsow was part of it too. Eadie had been battling WWE before the concussion though - for the rights to Demolition if I'm not mistaken.
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100%, they book it as a show. The NFL doesn't make Brian Urlacher wait until next year because Ray Lewis is going in this year.

The fact that they have a "headliner" tells you everything you need to know.

In terms of agenda of blackballing certain people, I'm sure they do. Guys like Demolition and Honky Tonk Man have said they won't do it unless they got paid like $100,000. So if they think they are gonna hold McMahon up for a payday, I'm sure that they won't be asked a 2nd time.

If I was WWE, I also sure as hell wouldn't want to work with people who are trying to use me.

Lastly, the fact that WWE can remove somebody from the HOF after they have already been inducted, ala Hulk Hogan, just shows that it really isn't real, and all part of WWEs agenda, whatever that happens to be at the time.

Once Hulk comes back, he won't have to be reinducted again, he will just be a HOFer again.
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Old 07-11-2018, 03:27 PM   #14
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Demolition aren't in because the are part of the class action lawsuit
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it already happened. They paid money to the family.
She has sued them multiple times, including recently when WWE put out a DVD on him. They always settle, probably cause it's just the easiest thing to do.

WWE doesn't own his rights exactly, but they own the rights to their footage. They own the rights to all their footage, with the only exception I can think of being Bret Hart's Stampede Wrestling matches as he owns those. They own the rest of the Stampede footage, just not Bret's matches.

Legally though there is a difference between archived footage and using Owen's name to promote future events, i.e. a Hall of Fame show.

WWE could probably get away with adding Owen's bio to the HOF webpage with no announcement or fanfare, but in terms of a show that sells tickets, airs on TV, etc. they would need to get a release, which Owen's widow has been unwilling to do.
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The class action lawsuit has prevented a lot of wrestlers that should be in

Demolition
Ivan Koloff
Ken Patera
King Kong Bundy
Marty Jannetty

To name a few
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Criteria is probably just don't be on Vince's or WWE's blacklist. Macho Man used to be on Vince's list for a very long time while CM Punk is likely on WWE's list for the foreseeable future.

The celeb and Warrior Award wings are pretty much just blatant PR moves by the WWE. Doesn't really add or take away anything from classes in terms of prestige.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:46 PM   #18
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Marty Jannetty is an interesting fringe HOF guy. If not for the lawsuit, I'm still not sure I see him being a Hall of Famer. Maybe if they wanted to induct The Rockers as a team.
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The class action lawsuit has prevented a lot of wrestlers that should be in

Demolition
Ivan Koloff
Ken Patera
King Kong Bundy
Marty Jannetty

To name a few
Janetty lol is he still drinking rubbing alcohol? How's his daughter??
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Marty Jannetty is an interesting fringe HOF guy. If not for the lawsuit, I'm still not sure I see him being a Hall of Famer. Maybe if they wanted to induct The Rockers as a team.
That I can get behind.
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The class action lawsuit has prevented a lot of wrestlers that should be in

Demolition
Ivan Koloff
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King Kong Bundy
Marty Jannetty

To name a few
I didnt know this. I wondered about Bundy and Jannetty also. What about Honky Tonk Man and Rick Martel ?
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Marty Jannetty is an interesting fringe HOF guy. If not for the lawsuit, I'm still not sure I see him being a Hall of Famer. Maybe if they wanted to induct The Rockers as a team.
Havent they inducted tag teams and a guy from said team as a singles competitor? I think that makes sense. Especially for wrestling.
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Are you thinking of Flair going in on his own and as part of The Horsemen?
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Are you thinking of Flair going in on his own and as part of The Horsemen?
Maybe. I just think it would be fine to do considering the way things change in wrestling.
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If Marty Jannetty wasn't such a mess, he'd be in. I don't see them putting Shawn Michaels in with him again, because The Rockers was such a preliminary stage of Shawn Michaels' career. The Horsemen were built around main event Flair. Shawn Michaels would induct him.

Demolition would have gone in years ago if they weren't part of the lawsuit against WWE. Of the people who sued WWE, I think they might be the ones Triple H works hardest at repairing the relationship with. I can see them being bonus characters in a video game within a few years time. The New Day will probably induct them.

Personal reasons leave out others and they only like one posthumous entry per year. Plus they also like box-ticking with their entries. It's why they will induct D'Lo Brown and Torrie Wilson within a few years.

Yes, they absolutely do have an agenda.
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I didnt know this. I wondered about Bundy and Jannetty also. What about Honky Tonk Man and Rick Martel ?
According to Honky Tonk Man (and take this with a grain of salt), he was offered and turned it down because they were offering him less than what he makes on the Indies


Martel is a weird one. He left on good terms, kept his nose clean, hadn't bad mouthed the company, yet for whatever reason he has gotten the call. He's more than deserving. Hillbilly Jim was another one that I had in that category for years and he ended up getting the call last year, so I'm hoping Martel is going in soon.
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Yeah, Martel is the most glaring example of someone not being in and nothing really holding it up. Honestly, Vader was probably in that camp for a while too, but even with him you could say that he was always a bit of a shit-stirrer and was working indies and such.
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HTM's story isn't that far-fetched. I mean, is there really heat between him and the company? I can imagine them not wanting to give him a live mic though.
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He's said a lot of shit over the years lol
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Oh yeah, I'm not saying that he's a reputable source, but he's kind of the perfect under-card inductee.
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Marty Jannetty is an interesting fringe HOF guy. If not for the lawsuit, I'm still not sure I see him being a Hall of Famer. Maybe if they wanted to induct The Rockers as a team.
They won't do that I don't think. They want to induct DX to make Shawn a two-time Hall of Famer.

DX > Rockers in the view of the WWE along with Marty being a disaster waiting to happen everytime he was there.
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HTM's story isn't that far-fetched. I mean, is there really heat between him and the company? I can imagine them not wanting to give him a live mic though.
They offered HTM, and HTM said that he told WWE he would do it for an obscene amount of money, like 6 figures, and they told him ni, so he turned it down.

Yeah he has said a lot of things against the company, but he isn't being kept out for that. He turned WWE down once, I doubt they ask a 2nd time unless a guy is like Randy Savage or Bruno.
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