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Old 07-02-2018, 10:14 AM   #41
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Big Daddy was the Hulk Hogan of the UK. That's the best comparison that I can think of
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Old 07-10-2018, 07:03 PM   #42
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EIWF does not have that much rep yet (10+)
No one has mentioned Grado
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Old 07-10-2018, 07:04 PM   #43
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EIWF does not have that much rep yet (10+)
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Old 07-16-2018, 11:48 PM   #44
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Big Daddy was the most famous British wrestler based in Britain at one time but he was pretty much unheard of outside of the UK. His brother, Max Crabtree is probably the best/biggest booker&show runner the UK had but no matter how high the viewing figures were there is no way in Hell Big Daddy was seen by as many people as Davey Boy Smith, Dynamite Kid, William Regal or Fit Finlay at their peak. They reached a huge international audience with WWE whereas Big Daddy was seen by millions of Brits. Mostly because there was nothing else to watch.

Big Daddy matches were a disgraceful affair. Zero athleticism and absolutely no suspense or surprise. There's a claim to be made that his main events were responsible for the stagnation and eventual death of televised wrestling in the U.K.

Guys like Mick McManus and Jackie Pallo were just as popular and they could actually wrestle but again they weren't as well known outside of the UK as the likes of the WWE British imports.
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Old 07-16-2018, 11:54 PM   #45
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Not really. He was purely a wrestling attraction. There was no real cultural impact beyond the time period nor outside of wrestling. He made virtually no contribution to wrestling in the U.K. besides ticket sales which rapidly waned. His brother did all of the promotion and booking. Big Daddy was a freak sideshow to the athletic undercards. He was a big heel for years then a face later on once he was totally obese and immobile enough to look formidable enough to fight Giant Haystacks in a light shoving match.
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Old 07-17-2018, 06:26 AM   #46
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I've seen and heard of Big Daddy referenced in different media.
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:34 AM   #47
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Not beyond the context of wrestling you haven't
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:35 AM   #48
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:42 AM   #49
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Not beyond the context of wrestling you haven't
I haven't heard of any British wrestler past the context of wrestling. I'm not even sure I've heard of any wrestler past the context of wrestling. Even Andre the Giant is famous for being a wrestler that crossed over. That still depends on a wrestling context.
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Andre The Giant was on TV and in films as an actor, not just as a wrestler. Andre was one of the first wrestlers to truly get so famous that he transcended wrestling. Hulk Hogan had far greater success as an actor, as a reality TV star etc. Macho Man and John Cena both released albums alongside acting roles. Then you have The Rock who some people will only know as an actor because he was so successful at surpassing wrestling's reach.

You're getting a basic fact wrong. There are levels of fame and recognition that go so far beyond wrestling notoriety and Big Daddy is a perfect example of a wrestler that was firmly stuck in his niche.
Big Daddy doesn't make me think of shitty rap albums or awful action movies, just fat old men belly bumping each other.
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Old 07-17-2018, 02:00 PM   #51
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Andre The Giant was on TV and in films as an actor, not just as a wrestler. Andre was one of the first wrestlers to truly get so famous that he transcended wrestling. Hulk Hogan had far greater success as an actor, as a reality TV star etc. Macho Man and John Cena both released albums alongside acting roles. Then you have The Rock who some people will only know as an actor because he was so successful at surpassing wrestling's reach.

You're getting a basic fact wrong. There are levels of fame and recognition that go so far beyond wrestling notoriety and Big Daddy is a perfect example of a wrestler that was firmly stuck in his niche.
Big Daddy doesn't make me think of shitty rap albums or awful action movies, just fat old men belly bumping each other.
Yeah, that's you. I've definitely heard him referenced on British comedy panel shows, radio shows, TV, etc. I never would have heard of any other British wrestler if I wasn't into wrestling. Never heard of Cena's rap album or Savage's in public discourse, for that matter.
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You're struggling to understand transcendence and you have confused medium with context.
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